Should have gone to the airport meeting today

I knew the airport was a possibility when we moved here in the early 90s. Or shortly thereafter. And knew the Atlanta airport owned a good bit of property. However, there was also a time when it was stated that the Atlanta airport was no longer interested in building here.
 
naturegirl said:
The county is voting on a bond for 3.6 million for the upgrades in hopes of getting FAA reimbursement. Propeller investments is not paying for the upgrades, they are just renting the facility.

You don't have to believe me but you can attend the work session on Tuesday at 10:00 or the meeting at 7:00.

People lie, then they raise you taxes again to pay for the bonds. I'm done.


^^^ And this is my problem with the entire issue... secrets and lies surrounding the use of taxpayer dollars.
 
ShoeDiva said:
I have said a few times I think that how this was made public is going to bite them in the butt, even if they did nothing wrong legally. I hate it and wish they would just call an open town hall meeting for them to explain it all and give people a chance to talk. Even if there are 2 minute rules for question and answer. (and a sign up ahead of time) I think it will go a long way to squash some of the rumors and misinformation and make people feel better about the deal.


I was at the toll road meeting, after they lied right to our faces I felt worse.
 
honeybunny said:
ShoeDiva said:
I have said a few times I think that how this was made public is going to bite them in the butt, even if they did nothing wrong legally. I hate it and wish they would just call an open town hall meeting for them to explain it all and give people a chance to talk. Even if there are 2 minute rules for question and answer. (and a sign up ahead of time) I think it will go a long way to squash some of the rumors and misinformation and make people feel better about the deal.


I was at the toll road meeting, after they lied right to our faces I felt worse.

I am not sure I remember what this toll lie is and it is wrong that you were lied to.


If not a town hall meeting, what would you suggest? I believe with the uproar there needs to be some conversation back and forth and not just them talking or sending out a press release or people writing blogs and starting Facebook pages.
 
I know quite a few people that live very near the airport and they are not outraged. :dunno

Still going with I think it can be a good thing, but wish that all commissioners would have known. I think much of the bruh ha ha is because one was left out. (I have no idea why, but it sure seems to be working in his favor.) Also, in relation to that article, there are a few people that have told me they saw signs for the airport meetings, but could not attend. (meetings were during the day) So in that respect I do believe it is a truthful statement that the meetings were open to people. (though I have no idea what was discussed during them, because neither I nor any friends attended.)
 
In comments quoted by the local media Todd said that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to make the deal that they made.

Having said that, I do believe that the announcement could have been handled better and they should have anticipated a lot of the questions about funds, etc. and been ready with immediate answers.
 
unionmom said:
In comments quoted by the local media Todd said that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to make the deal that they made.

Having said that, I do believe that the announcement could have been handled better and they should have anticipated a lot of the questions about funds, etc. and been ready with immediate answers.

:thumbsup
 
unionmom said:
In comments quoted by the local media Todd said that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to make the deal that they made.

Having said that, I do believe that the announcement could have been handled better and they should have anticipated a lot of the questions about funds, etc. and been ready with immediate answers.
Since the authority is an appointed position, do you have a problem of them spending tax payers money without your authorization?
 
Blazing Saddles said:
unionmom said:
In comments quoted by the local media Todd said that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to make the deal that they made.

Having said that, I do believe that the announcement could have been handled better and they should have anticipated a lot of the questions about funds, etc. and been ready with immediate answers.
Since the authority is an appointed position, do you have a problem of them spending tax payers money without your authorization?

At this moment in time, it is irrelevant. If they have already been granted that authority than we the people can only work to stop them from doing it again in the future by petitioning our elected officials to change the level of authority that they have. As it stands right now it seems that they do in fact have it, at least to some degree. As I said, Todd Pownall is quoted in the media as stating that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to act as they did with this agreement.
 
unionmom said:
Blazing Saddles said:
unionmom said:
In comments quoted by the local media Todd said that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to make the deal that they made.

Having said that, I do believe that the announcement could have been handled better and they should have anticipated a lot of the questions about funds, etc. and been ready with immediate answers.
Since the authority is an appointed position, do you have a problem of them spending tax payers money without your authorization?

At this moment in time, it is irrelevant. If they have already been granted that authority than we the people can only work to stop them from doing it again in the future by petitioning our elected officials to change the level of authority that they have. As it stands right now it seems that they do in fact have it, at least to some degree. As I said, Todd Pownall is quoted in the media as stating that the Airport Authority did in fact have the authority to act as they did with this agreement.
Yes, I know what Todd said. He personally said it to me. But I'm asking you the question, "Are you ok with the Airport Authority having that kind of power to spend your tax dollars without a voice" . I'm not asking you if this is relevant for what has already happened, I'm asking going forward if you are ok with this board having that kind of authority? Yes or No?
 
I'm not anti airport either and I want industry in this county but this underhanded deal is not the kind of politics an ethical voter could possibly side with.
 
Blazing Saddles said:
I'm not anti airport either and I want industry in this county but this underhanded deal is not the kind of politics an ethical voter could possibly side with.

But, if these issues were discussed at earlier airport authority meetings that are open to the public and no opposition was voiced, should they have not entered into the agreement?


Based on comments by Blake Swofford, that sounds like exactly what happened. Am I mistaken?
 
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
I'm not anti airport either and I want industry in this county but this underhanded deal is not the kind of politics an ethical voter could possibly side with.

But, if these issues were discussed at earlier airport authority meetings that are open to the public and no opposition was voiced, should they have not entered into the agreement?


Based on comments by Blake Swofford, that sounds like exactly what happened. Am I mistaken?

They've already admitted that this deal was made secretly. And now they're saying it was discussed at the Airport Authority meetings? It can't be both ways!
 
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
I'm not anti airport either and I want industry in this county but this underhanded deal is not the kind of politics an ethical voter could possibly side with.

But, if these issues were discussed at earlier airport authority meetings that are open to the public and no opposition was voiced, should they have not entered into the agreement?


Based on comments by Blake Swofford, that sounds like exactly what happened. Am I mistaken?
Sounds more like CYA.
 
Blazing Saddles said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
I'm not anti airport either and I want industry in this county but this underhanded deal is not the kind of politics an ethical voter could possibly side with.

But, if these issues were discussed at earlier airport authority meetings that are open to the public and no opposition was voiced, should they have not entered into the agreement?


Based on comments by Blake Swofford, that sounds like exactly what happened. Am I mistaken?
Sounds more like CYA.


But, if they have the authority to make the agreements, even if as IF said that it was done in private (and I don't know if it was or not), then, according to comments from Pownell and others, they have that right. If that is how the authority was set up, and no one opposed the decision to give them that authority, then they are in no position to complain about this agreement. And, I'm good with them having that authority going forward because they have yet to demonstrate to me that they are abusing that authority.


This is just my take, but folks seem to be content with the airport as long as it is sitting there empty, but the moment someone actually tries to make it a success, they get their panties twisted... IMO, Todd Pownell should feel pretty upset with himself for letting his constituents down - the airport is in his district, he should have been sitting at those meetings instead of waiting for someone to send him an email.
 
He said that SOME aspects of it were discussed at meetings but it is absolutely common practice to make these sorts of deals with a good bit of confidentiality in order to get them done without outside influence (read Delta, Atlanta, competitive businesses, etc.)

As for whether or not I personally feel that they should have the authority to spend taxpayer dollars, to a degree I do. They should not have a blank check and they didn't. They and the Commissioners still had to vote on the bond to pay for it. They made the agreement then they and the Commissioners voted on the funds. Seems to me that it went as it should.

I just wish the announcement(s) had been handled better and all partied were better prepared with hard factual responses to questions, where possible.
 
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
I'm not anti airport either and I want industry in this county but this underhanded deal is not the kind of politics an ethical voter could possibly side with.

But, if these issues were discussed at earlier airport authority meetings that are open to the public and no opposition was voiced, should they have not entered into the agreement?


Based on comments by Blake Swofford, that sounds like exactly what happened. Am I mistaken?
Sounds more like CYA.


But, if they have the authority to make the agreements, even if as IF said that it was done in private (and I don't know if it was or not), then, according to comments from Pownell and others, they have that right. If that is how the authority was set up, and no one opposed the decision to give them that authority, then they are in no position to complain about this agreement. And, I'm good with them having that authority going forward because they have yet to demonstrate to me that they are abusing that authority.


This is just my take, but folks seem to be content with the airport as long as it is sitting there empty, but the moment someone actually tries to make it a success, they get their panties twisted... IMO, Todd Pownell should feel pretty upset with himself for letting his constituents down - the airport is in his district, he should have been sitting at those meetings instead of waiting for someone to send him an email.

:)) :agreed It was always noted that we would try to get more business there. I am just not seeing why this is such a surprise to some. :dunno Still agree the handling of the announcement should have been better.
 
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