Interesting polls

Guard Dad said:
I occasionally post from 538. It's an OK site, but not one of my faves. It's part of ABC news, so there's that.

I prefer RCP, them seem to be the least biased.

There are two more candidates in the race, West and Stein. Neither polling much (1-2 points each), but they are both pulling from the Dems.

Regardless...as I mentioned earlier, Trump would likely win, even if 2-3 points behind in the popular vote. Hillary beat Trump by 2.1% in the popular vote in the 2016 election. The Electoral Vote is what matters, and that will be decided by 7 states, all of which Trump has a nice lead in, except PA, which is neck and neck. But the current Electoral Map shows Trump winning by 29 EVs, even without PA.

Yes, things could change, and all these trials could factor into that. But for now, we can only wait and see what happens. Personally, I think most of them will either delay or fizzle. Most are on very weak legal grounds to begin with. I suspect the SCOTUS will rule at least somewhat in Trump's favor.
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RCP does not do any polling. They compute an average from polls conducted by:
Bloomberg
Fox News
Marketing Resource Group (MRG)
Wall Street Journal
Mitchell Research and Communications
The Hill/Emerson
Quinnipiac

If you look at the results for each of these polls, some show Biden with a lead and others Trump, but all are within the margin of error. So, which of those polls is correct? The Michigan race with all the candidates shows Trump's margin over Biden declined.

You said because Kennedy is a Democrat, he is pulling more votes away from Biden. You forget the independent voters. They really don't care what party the candidate belongs to. That's where Kennedy is pulling votes away from Trump.
 
Boss 302 said:
RCP does not do any polling. They compute an average from polls conducted by:
Bloomberg
Fox News
Marketing Resource Group (MRG)
Wall Street Journal
Mitchell Research and Communications
The Hill/Emerson
Quinnipiac

If you look at the results for each of these polls, some show Biden with a lead and others Trump, but all are within the margin of error. So, which of those polls is correct? The Michigan race with all the candidates shows Trump's margin over Biden declined.

You said because Kennedy is a Democrat, he is pulling more votes away from Biden. You forget the independent voters. They really don't care what party the candidate belongs to. That's where Kennedy is pulling votes away from Trump.
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Look at the 5-way polls. And again, the popular vote polls aren't critical now, the battleground states are.

www.realclearpolling.com

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Yes, RCP just complies other people's data. That's partly why I feel they are less biased.
 
Boss 302 said:
I've said quite a few times now that we are screwed no matter who gets elected.
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From a standpoint of us being past the point of no return, I share your concern. I've been worried for some time that we're too close to the waterfall to turn the ship around.

If you're referring to there being little or no difference in the candidates if elected, I think you're dead wrong. There are clear and massive differences in the two, their policies and how they govern. The last two presidential terms clearly document this.
 
Guard Dad said:
Look at the 5-way polls. And again, the popular vote polls aren't critical now, the battleground states are.

www.realclearpolling.com

2024 General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Polls | RealClearPolling

Explore poll data on the 2024 General Election with RealClearPolling. Uncover trends and gain insight into electoral dynamics for key races and decisive outcomes.
www.realclearpolling.com www.realclearpolling.com

Yes, RCP just complies other people's data. That's partly why I feel they are less biased.
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Do you mean this one where Trump leads by less than a point?
www.realclearpolling.com

2024 General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Polls | RealClearPolling

Explore poll data on the 2024 General Election with RealClearPolling. Uncover trends and gain insight into electoral dynamics for key races and decisive outcomes.
www.realclearpolling.com www.realclearpolling.com
 
Guard Dad said:
From a standpoint of us being past the point of no return, I share your concern. I've been worried for some time that we're too close to the waterfall to turn the ship around.

If you're referring to there being little or no difference in the candidates if elected, I think you're dead wrong. There are clear and massive differences in the two, their policies and how they govern. The last two presidential terms clearly document this.
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If I were you, I would be concerned that Trump's lawyer is arguing before the SCOTUS that a president has immunity when he orders a military coup to remain in office. Why would he say such a moronic thing?
 
Boss 302 said:
If I were you, I would be concerned that Trump's lawyer is arguing before the SCOTUS that a president has immunity when he orders a military coup to remain in office. Why would he say such a moronic thing?
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You need a hobby that doesn't involve Orange Man.
 
Guard Dad said:
He leads in most of them.

What part of Electoral Vote and Battle Ground States do you not understand?
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What I understand is this. The polls, at this point, don't mean a damn thing. The majority show whoever leads does so within the margin of error, meaning it's a tie. To declare a winner based on these polls is ludicrous.
 
Boss 302 said:
It sounds like your hobby is the Orange Man because you sure as hell post about him more than anyone else here.
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Well, I post more than anyone here, and Trump is the only hope we currently have of getting rid of Biden.

Is that so crazy?
 
Boss 302 said:
What I understand is this. The polls, at this point, don't mean a damn thing. The majority show whoever leads does so within the margin of error, meaning it's a tie. To declare a winner based on these polls is ludicrous.
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No one has declared a winner.

But most of us aren't Negative Nellies either. You keep going back to the popular vote polls, and refuse to acknowledge that the Electoral Vote is what matters.

Trump has the advantage right now, nothing more. Even the Democrats know this, many of them are sounding the alarm. Since, short of any candidate swaps, either Trump or Biden will be the next president, I'm rooting for Trump.
 
Guard Dad said:
No one has declared a winner.

But most of us aren't Negative Nellies either. You keep going back to the popular vote polls, and refuse to acknowledge that the Electoral Vote is what matters.

Trump has the advantage right now, nothing more. Even the Democrats know this, many of them are sounding the alarm. Since, short of any candidate swaps, either Trump or Biden will be the next president, I'm rooting for Trump.
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You're the one who started this topic and posts the polls as if they mean something.
 
Boss 302 said:
Right, and when we post a disparaging news report about Trump, you're quick to insult us. Got it.
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Oh, what BS.

Sensitive much?

We've covered this before...Trump is fair game in the news, the part that gets old is the incessant personal attacks and unsubstantiated claims.

For example...you keep claiming how we're screwed either way. We all know why we'll be screwed if Biden wins, but you have yet to even begin to explain why we're screwed if Trump wins. What is he going to do in another term that will be so bad?

I'm waiting...
 
Guard Dad said:
Oh, what BS.

Sensitive much?

We've covered this before...Trump is fair game in the news, the part that gets old is the incessant personal attacks and unsubstantiated claims.

For example...you keep claiming how we're screwed either way. We all know why we'll be screwed if Biden wins, but you have yet to even begin to explain why we're screwed if Trump wins. What is he going to do in another term that will be so bad?

I'm waiting...
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Apparently, Trump isn't fair game here. You've called some of us haters after posting news reports that don't flatter Trump. If you say you've never done that, you will be lying.
 
Boss 302 said:
Apparently, Trump isn't fair game here. You've called some of us haters after posting news reports that don't flatter Trump. If you say you've never done that, you will be lying.
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Whatever. Absolutely nothing has been censored here. But if you can't handle debating, then it's on you.

You still have a standing question above.
 
Guard Dad said:
Whatever. Absolutely nothing has been censored here. But if you can't handle debating, then it's on you.

You still have a standing question above.
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I didn't say anything was censored. I can handle debating. As far as your question goes, go back and read some of the things cptlo and I posted on that very subject.
 
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