Roswell St Baptist Church

[Guard Dad]

Again, folks. I don't believe anyone really thinks there will be gay scouts bumping uglies on church property, and no mainstream Christian church is going to tell gays they are not welcome there. Every church I've ever been a part of welcomed anyone who came with a sincere desire to worship or learn about Christ. There will always be bigoted individuals in church, but mean people are everywhere.

The problem is that the BSA has effectively endorsed homosexuality, and sexuality in general. That is in-conflict with their original mission statement, and in-conflict with Biblical principles. I think this is what many churches have an issue with, and I do understand why that is.

 

[J-man]

The BSA needs the church a lot more than the church needs the BSA. Obviously there was some very bad management decisions made which has led to this very thread. There should be a nationwide call for the resignation of all upper management of the BSA organization including anyone involved in the policy changes. Any CEO or board of a publicly traded company would be fired and/or sued for such an unwise decision. Let's all be honest here, the primary reason the BSA has been affiliated in any way with a church for so many years is because of the financial gain attached with free or reduced overhead. The BSA will be fine, they will restructure their sponsorship and will gain as many new sponsors as they lose. It may take a while but they will figure it out like any other surviving organization. I mean no harm to the program at all, it is a good program for kids and has a good track record but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they're the only trick in town. Many other organizations can use the same church support and would also be happy to have it.

 

[ShoeDiva]

The BSA needs the church a lot more than the church needs the BSA. Obviously there was some very bad management decisions made which has led to this very thread. There should be a nationwide call for the resignation of all upper management of the BSA organization including anyone involved in the policy changes. Any CEO or board of a publicly traded company would be fired and/or sued for such an unwise decision. Let's all be honest here, the primary reason the BSA has been affiliated in any way with a church for so many years is because of the financial gain attached with free or reduced overhead. The BSA will be fine, they will restructure their sponsorship and will gain as many new sponsors as they lose. It may take a while but they will figure it out like any other surviving organization. I mean no harm to the program at all, it is a good program for kids and has a good track record but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they're the only trick in town. Many other organizations can use the same church support and would also be happy to have it.

What would those be? I know someone mentioned RA, that I have never heard of before, but nothing else that would meet the requirements that I know of. By requirements I mean excluding gays. Most clubs and organizations are non discriminatory, which is all that I see the BSA will be as of Jan 2014. :dunno

 

[naturegirl]

The BSA needs the church a lot more than the church needs the BSA. Obviously there was some very bad management decisions made which has led to this very thread. There should be a nationwide call for the resignation of all upper management of the BSA organization including anyone involved in the policy changes. Any CEO or board of a publicly traded company would be fired and/or sued for such an unwise decision. Let's all be honest here, the primary reason the BSA has been affiliated in any way with a church for so many years is because of the financial gain attached with free or reduced overhead. The BSA will be fine, they will restructure their sponsorship and will gain as many new sponsors as they lose. It may take a while but they will figure it out like any other surviving organization. I mean no harm to the program at all, it is a good program for kids and has a good track record but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they're the only trick in town. Many other organizations can use the same church support and would also be happy to have it.

There were over 1400 people that voted. They are registered voting members. 61% voted in favor of allowing gay kids. It was not the CEO or a few guys at national. BSA will survive and so will the churches. At this juncture it appears the biggest resistance if from the Baptist Churches in the South. The Methodist Churches, the Catlholic Churches and the LDS Churches and several others are still supporting BSA and chartering units.

 

[lotstodo]

Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church


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I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

So is forcing homosexuality on someone the same as shoving religion down someone's throat? Seriously, I applaud the churches that realize this is kids we're talking about. In an environment where sexuality should never be an issue since it should be non-existent. If a boy and girl in a venture crew were caught doing something that was inappropriate, they would be asked to leave the scouting program. It will be no different if it is two people of the same sex.

I also applaud those that are standing firm in what they believe to be the right decision. What works for one group may not work for another and I'm okay with that. I have to do what I think God would want me to. And others have to as well. I guess if BS is expected to leave his church over this decision then so should LisaC and Mrs&MRJackRussell. It goes both ways.

Wasn't it you who just said that there is no sex in the scouts? The problem is not the act, it's the proclivity. If there is no sex in scouts, then sexuality is, or should be, a non-issue. Forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't Christ teach that we are all sinners? How is a homosexual boy any different from the married father of three in the second row on Sunday who is schtuping his secretary? Are they not both sinners? Does Christ council throwing him out of the building as well? Nobody can have it both ways, neither you nor I, nor RSBC. I always hear hate the sin but love the sinner. I guess that just goes for some sinners. They are picking the sinners they want off the property. It is certainly their right to do so, but I do not applaud either side. Excuse my French, but they are both acting like complete asshats. At least that's how it looks from here.

Dang internet, no facial expression. I think you know me enough to know I don't have a problem with anyone's sexuality, period. I have a problem with this being about sexuality. You said what I was trying to say. It should not be a problem for anyone, the church, it's members or the BSA. It should be a non-issue. Please understand no one would be thrown out because of their sexuality but because they would be engaging in something that was against the rules.

And yes if a leader was doing his secretary, he'd be asked to leave the program.

i was talking about the church sponsor picking sinners, not the BSA. I most certainly would expect any sort of sexual activity within the scouting program to be swiftly dealt with, and any sort of conduct unbecoming by an adult leader to be grounds for dismissal.

 

[stradial]

As I am not a member of any church or the BSA, I may have an opinion on what each should do, but since I am not a member, my opinion and a quarter will get you a gumball.
Even if I am right.

Quite a few years ago I thought I might like to start attending church again.
I went to someone who I respect, a lot, and told them what I was thinking and asked for their input on my attending church again.
(some may remember that I was voted out of the last church I had belonged to)

My friend told me this:

"When you find a church that you wish to attend regularly, go up to the pastor, tell him who you are and let him know that if he ever needs you to help him, you are there for him.
Do not tell them what you think they are doing wrong or what they should be doing that they are not doing.
Do not tell them what you think they need to know about god or what you think they may be wrong about where god is concerned.
They have their own way of doing things and their own way of believing in god and they have been doing just fine without your input.
If you can't do this, then leave them alone."

That was some great advice for me.

 

[lotstodo]

The BSA needs the church a lot more than the church needs the BSA. Obviously there was some very bad management decisions made which has led to this very thread. There should be a nationwide call for the resignation of all upper management of the BSA organization including anyone involved in the policy changes. Any CEO or board of a publicly traded company would be fired and/or sued for such an unwise decision. Let's all be honest here, the primary reason the BSA has been affiliated in any way with a church for so many years is because of the financial gain attached with free or reduced overhead. The BSA will be fine, they will restructure their sponsorship and will gain as many new sponsors as they lose. It may take a while but they will figure it out like any other surviving organization. I mean no harm to the program at all, it is a good program for kids and has a good track record but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they're the only trick in town. Many other organizations can use the same church support and would also be happy to have it.

There were over 1400 people that voted. They are registered voting members. 61% voted in favor of allowing gay kids. It was not the CEO or a few guys at national. BSA will survive and so will the churches. At this juncture it appears the biggest resistance if from the Baptist Churches in the South. The Methodist Churches, the Catlholic Churches and the LDS Churches and several others are still supporting BSA and chartering units.

I think it will all come out in the wash too. I'm just particularly attached to 204 because of my friendship with TS and his Eagle Scout son, who calls me Uncle T. I also helped a couple of other kids with their projects. While 204 isn't the poster child for scouting that it used to be maybe 5 or so years ago, it certainly doesn't deserve the boot. There are a lot of really good families involved in that troop. I hope that they do find a good permanent home that lends them full support.

 

[naturegirl]

The BSA needs the church a lot more than the church needs the BSA. Obviously there was some very bad management decisions made which has led to this very thread. There should be a nationwide call for the resignation of all upper management of the BSA organization including anyone involved in the policy changes. Any CEO or board of a publicly traded company would be fired and/or sued for such an unwise decision. Let's all be honest here, the primary reason the BSA has been affiliated in any way with a church for so many years is because of the financial gain attached with free or reduced overhead. The BSA will be fine, they will restructure their sponsorship and will gain as many new sponsors as they lose. It may take a while but they will figure it out like any other surviving organization. I mean no harm to the program at all, it is a good program for kids and has a good track record but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they're the only trick in town. Many other organizations can use the same church support and would also be happy to have it.

There were over 1400 people that voted. They are registered voting members. 61% voted in favor of allowing gay kids. It was not the CEO or a few guys at national. BSA will survive and so will the churches. At this juncture it appears the biggest resistance if from the Baptist Churches in the South. The Methodist Churches, the Catlholic Churches and the LDS Churches and several others are still supporting BSA and chartering units.

I think it will all come out in the wash too. I'm just particularly attached to 204 because of my friendship with TS and his Eagle Scout son, who calls me Uncle T. I also helped a couple of other kids with their projects. While 204 isn't the poster child for scouting that it used to be maybe 5 or so years ago, it certainly doesn't deserve the boot. There are a lot of really good families involved in that troop. I hope that they do find a good permanent home that lends them full support.

I understand, TS is a great guy and has contributed a lot to Scouting. He's pretty awesome and Ted (the scoutmaster) is one of my favorite people in the entire Atlanta Area Council. I will say for many years fewer and fewer Baptist Churches have chartered units. Only a handful in Paulding County do. In fact I believe MrsJR's may be the only one.

Funny that we both know him, it's a small world.

 

[lotstodo]

The BSA needs the church a lot more than the church needs the BSA. Obviously there was some very bad management decisions made which has led to this very thread. There should be a nationwide call for the resignation of all upper management of the BSA organization including anyone involved in the policy changes. Any CEO or board of a publicly traded company would be fired and/or sued for such an unwise decision. Let's all be honest here, the primary reason the BSA has been affiliated in any way with a church for so many years is because of the financial gain attached with free or reduced overhead. The BSA will be fine, they will restructure their sponsorship and will gain as many new sponsors as they lose. It may take a while but they will figure it out like any other surviving organization. I mean no harm to the program at all, it is a good program for kids and has a good track record but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they're the only trick in town. Many other organizations can use the same church support and would also be happy to have it.

There were over 1400 people that voted. They are registered voting members. 61% voted in favor of allowing gay kids. It was not the CEO or a few guys at national. BSA will survive and so will the churches. At this juncture it appears the biggest resistance if from the Baptist Churches in the South. The Methodist Churches, the Catlholic Churches and the LDS Churches and several others are still supporting BSA and chartering units.

I think it will all come out in the wash too. I'm just particularly attached to 204 because of my friendship with TS and his Eagle Scout son, who calls me Uncle T. I also helped a couple of other kids with their projects. While 204 isn't the poster child for scouting that it used to be maybe 5 or so years ago, it certainly doesn't deserve the boot. There are a lot of really good families involved in that troop. I hope that they do find a good permanent home that lends them full support.

I understand, TS is a great guy and has contributed a lot to Scouting. He's pretty awesome and Ted (the scoutmaster) is one of my favorite people in the entire Atlanta Area Council. I will say for many years fewer and fewer Baptist Churches have chartered units. Only a handful in Paulding County do. In fact I believe MrsJR's may be the only one.

Funny that we both know him, it's a small world.

I've known him for about 40 years. I have stories, but then again he has stories about me too, so those will stay put. Yup, Ted is a first rate gentleman and a scholar. He was responsible for troop 204 coming back into being in the early 90's and has kept it first class since. I haven't spoken to him in over a year, so I don't know how he is personally taking the news.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

So is forcing homosexuality on someone the same as shoving religion down someone's throat? Seriously, I applaud the churches that realize this is kids we're talking about. In an environment where sexuality should never be an issue since it should be non-existent. If a boy and girl in a venture crew were caught doing something that was inappropriate, they would be asked to leave the scouting program. It will be no different if it is two people of the same sex.

I also applaud those that are standing firm in what they believe to be the right decision. What works for one group may not work for another and I'm okay with that. I have to do what I think God would want me to. And others have to as well. I guess if BS is expected to leave his church over this decision then so should LisaC and Mrs&MRJackRussell. It goes both ways.

Wasn't it you who just said that there is no sex in the scouts? The problem is not the act, it's the proclivity. If there is no sex in scouts, then sexuality is, or should be, a non-issue. Forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't Christ teach that we are all sinners? How is a homosexual boy any different from the married father of three in the second row on Sunday who is schtuping his secretary? Are they not both sinners? Does Christ council throwing him out of the building as well? Nobody can have it both ways, neither you nor I, nor RSBC. I always hear hate the sin but love the sinner. I guess that just goes for some sinners. They are picking the sinners they want off the property. It is certainly their right to do so, but I do not applaud either side. Excuse my French, but they are both acting like complete asshats. At least that's how it looks from here.

sorry Ltd, I didn't say that. As to sin, it's all the same. Sin is sin.

I know my previous answer may be a bit out of line but it's only because my phone app was showing LTD as asking me his question. Now I'm on my laptop, I can see who he was actually quoting. Don't know what happened there.

 

[lotstodo]

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

So is forcing homosexuality on someone the same as shoving religion down someone's throat? Seriously, I applaud the churches that realize this is kids we're talking about. In an environment where sexuality should never be an issue since it should be non-existent. If a boy and girl in a venture crew were caught doing something that was inappropriate, they would be asked to leave the scouting program. It will be no different if it is two people of the same sex.

I also applaud those that are standing firm in what they believe to be the right decision. What works for one group may not work for another and I'm okay with that. I have to do what I think God would want me to. And others have to as well. I guess if BS is expected to leave his church over this decision then so should LisaC and Mrs&MRJackRussell. It goes both ways.

Wasn't it you who just said that there is no sex in the scouts? The problem is not the act, it's the proclivity. If there is no sex in scouts, then sexuality is, or should be, a non-issue. Forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't Christ teach that we are all sinners? How is a homosexual boy any different from the married father of three in the second row on Sunday who is schtuping his secretary? Are they not both sinners? Does Christ council throwing him out of the building as well? Nobody can have it both ways, neither you nor I, nor RSBC. I always hear hate the sin but love the sinner. I guess that just goes for some sinners. They are picking the sinners they want off the property. It is certainly their right to do so, but I do not applaud either side. Excuse my French, but they are both acting like complete asshats. At least that's how it looks from here.

sorry Ltd, I didn't say that. As to sin, it's all the same. Sin is sin.

I know my previous answer may be a bit out of line but it's only because my phone app was showing LTD as asking me his question. Now I'm on my laptop, I can see who he was actually quoting. Don't know what happened there.

I figured it was something like that. It's all good. :thumbsup No matter what, at the end of the day, we are all still friends here anyway right?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

So is forcing homosexuality on someone the same as shoving religion down someone's throat? Seriously, I applaud the churches that realize this is kids we're talking about. In an environment where sexuality should never be an issue since it should be non-existent. If a boy and girl in a venture crew were caught doing something that was inappropriate, they would be asked to leave the scouting program. It will be no different if it is two people of the same sex.

I also applaud those that are standing firm in what they believe to be the right decision. What works for one group may not work for another and I'm okay with that. I have to do what I think God would want me to. And others have to as well. I guess if BS is expected to leave his church over this decision then so should LisaC and Mrs&MRJackRussell. It goes both ways.

Wasn't it you who just said that there is no sex in the scouts? The problem is not the act, it's the proclivity. If there is no sex in scouts, then sexuality is, or should be, a non-issue. Forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't Christ teach that we are all sinners? How is a homosexual boy any different from the married father of three in the second row on Sunday who is schtuping his secretary? Are they not both sinners? Does Christ council throwing him out of the building as well? Nobody can have it both ways, neither you nor I, nor RSBC. I always hear hate the sin but love the sinner. I guess that just goes for some sinners. They are picking the sinners they want off the property. It is certainly their right to do so, but I do not applaud either side. Excuse my French, but they are both acting like complete asshats. At least that's how it looks from here.

sorry Ltd, I didn't say that. As to sin, it's all the same. Sin is sin.

I know my previous answer may be a bit out of line but it's only because my phone app was showing LTD as asking me his question. Now I'm on my laptop, I can see who he was actually quoting. Don't know what happened there.

I figured it was something like that. It's all good. :thumbsup No matter what, at the end of the day, we are all still friends here anyway right?

I guess.......hahaha!

 

[LisaC]

Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

So is forcing homosexuality on someone the same as shoving religion down someone's throat? Seriously, I applaud the churches that realize this is kids we're talking about. In an environment where sexuality should never be an issue since it should be non-existent. If a boy and girl in a venture crew were caught doing something that was inappropriate, they would be asked to leave the scouting program. It will be no different if it is two people of the same sex.

I also applaud those that are standing firm in what they believe to be the right decision. What works for one group may not work for another and I'm okay with that. I have to do what I think God would want me to. And others have to as well. I guess if BS is expected to leave his church over this decision then so should LisaC and Mrs&MRJackRussell. It goes both ways.

Wasn't it you who just said that there is no sex in the scouts? The problem is not the act, it's the proclivity. If there is no sex in scouts, then sexuality is, or should be, a non-issue. Forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't Christ teach that we are all sinners? How is a homosexual boy any different from the married father of three in the second row on Sunday who is schtuping his secretary? Are they not both sinners? Does Christ council throwing him out of the building as well? Nobody can have it both ways, neither you nor I, nor RSBC. I always hear hate the sin but love the sinner. I guess that just goes for some sinners. They are picking the sinners they want off the property. It is certainly their right to do so, but I do not applaud either side. Excuse my French, but they are both acting like complete asshats. At least that's how it looks from here.

sorry Ltd, I didn't say that. As to sin, it's all the same. Sin is sin.

I know my previous answer may be a bit out of line but it's only because my phone app was showing LTD as asking me his question. Now I'm on my laptop, I can see who he was actually quoting. Don't know what happened there.

I figured it was something like that. It's all good. :thumbsup No matter what, at the end of the day, we are all still friends here anyway right?

I guess.......hahaha!

Ah come on, BS - I thought you and I were besties?!? :hug

 

[Hankster]

Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

Haha!!!! Your church loves and supports queers!!! Can we start planning a Pride march through the parking lot anytime soon?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Re: Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

Haha!!!! Your church loves and supports queers!!! Can we start planning a Pride march through the parking lot anytime soon?

"we" huh? I guess I owe GD a collection on a bet.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Re: Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

Haha!!!! Your church loves and supports queers!!! Can we start planning a Pride march through the parking lot anytime soon?

"we" huh? I guess I owe GD a collection on a bet.

Hank: :girlsaysno
BS: What does that mean?

 

[Hankster]

Re: Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

Haha!!!! Your church loves and supports queers!!! Can we start planning a Pride march through the parking lot anytime soon?

"we" huh? I guess I owe GD a collection on a bet.

Hank: :girlsaysno
BS: What does that mean?

That I'm gay!!! Haha!! My wife and 3 children would disagree. I just like planning parties and making love to men. Doesn't make me gay though.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Re: Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

Haha!!!! Your church loves and supports queers!!! Can we start planning a Pride march through the parking lot anytime soon?

"we" huh? I guess I owe GD a collection on a bet.

Hank: :girlsaysno
BS: What does that mean?

That I'm gay!!! Haha!! My wife and 3 children would disagree. I just like planning parties and making love to men. Doesn't make me gay though.

Gotcha. Didn't catch it because you talk about your wife and kiddos. I love a good party btw.

 

[Mrs. Jack Russell]

I just want to say that I am so proud of Mr. JR. He has been so upset (inside, he never shows it) about the BSA policy change. He has handled the entire situation with grace and dignity. We met with our pastor yesterday. Because we are Christians and love our church, this has been so hard. Some men would have thrown up their hands and given up. My husband does not agree with the new policy, but he loves the boys in his troop. There are so many that are so close to Eagle that he can't quit on them.

Right now the mood in the Scout troop is a little down about our church's decision to not re-charter. Mr. JR does not like the decision, but agrees with the decision. As the Scoutmaster of Troop 321, it has made his job harder. He has asked the pastor to allow him to announce that the troop will leave the church. He feels as a member of our church and the Scoutmaster of the Troop, this job falls on him. I am so proud of him for stepping up and doing this. He wants the congregation to know how difficult this was for our church. He wants the church to know how much we have appreciated them being the charter for the troop. He wants the boys who are scouts and members of the church to know they will always have a church home. He wants the congregation to know he fully supports the church's decision.

Right now the devil wants there to be turmoil in the Baptist church's. He is right in the middle of this. I'm not saying the devil was involved in the BSA policy change, but he sure is using this to try to divide church members. By Mr. JR standing up for God and the church, he will be far remember as doing God's will. Is Mr. JR a homophobe? NO. Does Mr. JR hate gays? NO. He is a Christian man who believes the word of God to be true and tries to live his life as Jesus would have him live. The boys in the troop know that Mr. JR will not leave them. People try to make it that you can't be a Christian and be in Scouting now because of this decision. It is further from the truth. While our church can no longer be a part of Scouting because of this policy change, the troop still needs a good Christian role model for the boys.

Scouts of Troop 321 have done so many good things for the church. One Eagle project was done there. Lots of service hours were spent doing work at the church. The boys scouts have always helped out during our VBS and other projects. The church will be forever grateful for that. In turn the church has done so much for the Scouts.

When Mr. JR asked if we could still have Eagle court of honors at our church, our pastor said absolutely. That sounds like a conflict of interest, but when thinking that our church allows people that are not members of our church hold weddings and other things at the church, it's not so conflicting. Our Pastor said it plainly. The church can not sign the charter because of the wording of the new policy saying "openly gay". It has nothing to do with the celebration of a boy accomplishing the rank of Eagle.

Having said all of this, Troop 321 has been given many options of business/people who are willing to sign the charter and also several places to meet. Our Troop will survive this and our church will survive this. Chalk one up for God and the devil can just go away NOW!!!!!

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Roswell St Baptist Church

I agree with the decision. The church isn't the responsible party, it's the boy scouts. I don't sponsor things that I disagree with either. Ignorance didn't come into play here and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this decision. Seems to me the scouts made the wrong decision because it conflicts with their sponsors.

Okay, BS - you agreed with Roswell Street's decision - how is this going to affect your relationship with your church now that you know that they are going to continue to support the Boy Scouts? Or will it? :dunno

It won't affect my relationship. Sometimes God uses different timing for others. If our church feels the need to continue their support, so be it. My personal convictions in this issue happen to fall closer in line with Roswell Street but that doesn't mean I am at odds with my church. God clearly shows He removes some people from situations while leaving others to fight the good fight.

To have people stand on biblical convictions and act when society says it's wrong is inspiring. This immoral act that is being flaunted in the face of Christians as being ok is just appalling. Why the homosexual community needs to be validated by Christians is sickening in itself and as a Christian, I'll always stand firm on sin and will never compromise but I'll will also see the offender as someone who is just like all of us as lost in their own sin and who needs Jesus Christ as their saviour from the damming convictions that will separate them from eternity with the Lord.

Haha!!!! Your church loves and supports queers!!! Can we start planning a Pride march through the parking lot anytime soon?

"we" huh? I guess I owe GD a collection on a bet.

Hank: :girlsaysno
BS: What does that mean?

That I'm gay!!! Haha!! My wife and 3 children would disagree. I just like planning parties and making love to men. Doesn't make me gay though.

you know I'm just messing with ya!