I have a question

[LisaC]

I have a final thought.....if Islam is the same god, why did they need a new religion? Truth is, God was rejected by Mohammed and was susceptible to demonic influence that ultimately changed the world.

Here is a question. What if Mohammed truly believed that Gabriel was an angel of God (our God, that is)?

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

 

[LisaC]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

 

[gog8tors]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

We do a dedication when our kids are babies. Basically we are standing in front of the church promising that we will raise our children in the church. When we accept Jesus we follow up with the public baptism. Just like Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

 

[J-man]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The answer is yes, all true Muslims are Islamist however all "Arabs" are not Muslim. Muslims are people (from all ethnicity) of a religion but being a Muslim is not a nationality (except for a small sect from Yugoslavia who gained a loose recognition). Specifically, a Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah and follows the teachings of the Koran (Qur'an) as the exact word of God. So to tie it all together, Arabs are descendants of Ishmael but all Arabs are not Muslim, all Muslims follow the religion on Islam.

Clear as mud now?

 

[J-man]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The answer is yes, all true Muslims are Islamist however all "Arabs" are not Muslim. Muslims are people (from all ethnicity) of a religion but being a Muslim is not a nationality (except for a small sect from Yugoslavia who gained a loose recognition). Specifically, a Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah and follows the teachings of the Koran (Qur'an) as the exact word of God. So to tie it all together, Arabs are descendants of Ishmael but all Arabs are not Muslim, all Muslims follow the religion of Islam.

Clear as mud now?

 

[gog8tors]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The answer is yes, all true Muslims are Islamist however all "Arabs" are not Muslim. Muslims are people (from all ethnicity) of a religion but being a Muslim is not a nationality (except for a small sect from Yugoslavia who gained a loose recognition). Specifically, a Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah and follows the teachings of the Koran (Qur'an) as the exact word of God. So to tie it all together, Arabs are descendants of Ishmael but all Arabs are not Muslim, all Muslims follow the religion on Islam.

Clear as mud now?

Yes, muddy as all get out. ) Kinda like I can say I'm a Baptist, but in truth I'm a Christian. We just have differing takes on the Bible, but are in agreement (for the most part) about the basic truths of the Bible.
Seems to me that Muslims should just call themselves Islamist. Because unlike the Christians you will believe the way they say or DIIIIeEEEEE. Granted it took us awhile to get there as well, what with the whole Reformation, and dark ages, and such.
Now, why don't the Arabs call them selves Ismaelites?

 

[J-man]

Cause some are Christians, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist, and so on.

 

[J-man]

Cause some are Christians, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist, and so on.

And from a nationality stance some are Turkish, Saudi, Jordanian, and so on.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

I have a final thought.....if Islam is the same god, why did they need a new religion? Truth is, God was rejected by Mohammed and was susceptible to demonic influence that ultimately changed the world.

Truth is...your truth is not always the same as another's. ;D

I never said it was. The Truth in this matter is God's. He determined it for us and He said Muslims don't worship Him. I just obey His word because that Truth had set me free. John 8:32. He clearly tells us that if something contradicts His word then it is not of Him. This topic is very simple to prove contraction.

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The answer is yes, all true Muslims are Islamist however all "Arabs" are not Muslim. Muslims are people (from all ethnicity) of a religion but being a Muslim is not a nationality (except for a small sect from Yugoslavia who gained a loose recognition). Specifically, a Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah and follows the teachings of the Koran (Qur'an) as the exact word of God. So to tie it all together, Arabs are descendants of Ishmael but all Arabs are not Muslim, all Muslims follow the religion on Islam.

Clear as mud now?

Do you have a spread sheet? It would help. )

 

[ShoeDiva]

I have a final thought.....if Islam is the same god, why did they need a new religion? Truth is, God was rejected by Mohammed and was susceptible to demonic influence that ultimately changed the world.

Truth is...your truth is not always the same as another's. ;D

I never said it was. The Truth in this matter is God's. He determined it for us and He said Muslims don't worship Him. I just obey His word because that Truth had set me free. John 8:32. He clearly tells us that if something contradicts His word then it is not of Him. This topic is very simple to prove contraction.

It was a play on your own words ) and I am saying your truth and my truth have on numerous times conflicted and you think you are right, I think I am right, and we use the same Bible. It is ALL in perspective and how you read the word. (and the 50 million scholars that give us conflicting expert opinions to ponder )

 

[Blazing Saddles]

I have a final thought.....if Islam is the same god, why did they need a new religion? Truth is, God was rejected by Mohammed and was susceptible to demonic influence that ultimately changed the world.

Here is a question. What if Mohammed truly believed that Gabriel was an angel of God (our God, that is)?

it doesn't matter what he believed. We all face things in life and have to determine if it is if God. We are to use His word to determine that. God's truth doesn't hinge on what we think.

 

[gog8tors]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The answer is yes, all true Muslims are Islamist however all "Arabs" are not Muslim. Muslims are people (from all ethnicity) of a religion but being a Muslim is not a nationality (except for a small sect from Yugoslavia who gained a loose recognition). Specifically, a Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah and follows the teachings of the Koran (Qur'an) as the exact word of God. So to tie it all together, Arabs are descendants of Ishmael but all Arabs are not Muslim, all Muslims follow the religion on Islam.

Clear as mud now?

Do you have a spread sheet? It would help. )

Isn't that IFs spiritual gift? )

 

[Blazing Saddles]

I have a final thought.....if Islam is the same god, why did they need a new religion? Truth is, God was rejected by Mohammed and was susceptible to demonic influence that ultimately changed the world.

Truth is...your truth is not always the same as another's. ;D

I never said it was. The Truth in this matter is God's. He determined it for us and He said Muslims don't worship Him. I just obey His word because that Truth had set me free. John 8:32. He clearly tells us that if something contradicts His word then it is not of Him. This topic is very simple to prove contraction.

It was a play on your own words ) and I am saying your truth and my truth have on numerous times conflicted and you think you are right, I think I am right, and we use the same Bible. It is ALL in perspective and how you read the word. (and the 50 million scholars that give us conflicting expert opinions to ponder )

I don't disagree that you and I can have a different interpretation on little things in the Bible that are insignificant to God's salvation plans. However, when it comes to the basis of Christianity such as listed in the Apostles Creed or if we differ on whether Jesus was God or whether the Holy Spirit dwells in us then we would have to separate our beliefs. What you just said open door to relativism and there is no basis of truth in that kind of thinking. If everything is relative, then there are no rights and wrongs and God doesn't need to exist. Man has been trying all of his history to rId God out of his life so he does not have to face judgement. Unfortunately, man is only fooling himself.

 

[Madea]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

:thumbsup

 

[LisaC]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

 

[Grey Colson]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

That may raise the old "thief on the cross" question from someone. :dunno

 

[gog8tors]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

Madea, yeah that. Lisa C. I have heard that to.