I have a question

[mei lan]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

That may raise the old "thief on the cross" question from someone. :dunno

Correctamundo. That's my main quibble with the Church of Christ. I don't like their lack of instruments, but I could deal with that. The baptism is mandatory for salvation thing, though, is a deal-breaker. We are saved BY FAITH and that not of works...Ephesians 2 is pretty clear on that.

 

[mei lan]

I have a final thought.....if Islam is the same god, why did they need a new religion? Truth is, God was rejected by Mohammed and was susceptible to demonic influence that ultimately changed the world.

Here is a question. What if Mohammed truly believed that Gabriel was an angel of God (our God, that is)?

I don't get it. What has that to do with anything? What am I missing?

 

[stradial]

Even Pat sometimes misunderstands what God says.
Pat Robertson: God Told Me Romney Will Be A Two Term President

 

[stradial]

This guy says that God told him that God isn't speaking to anyone anmore.
NoCo90 Episode4: God Told Me He Doesn't Speak to Anyone Else Anymore

 

[mei lan]

Even Esp. Pat sometimes misunderstands what God says.

FIFY.

 

[stradial]

I think maybe God said, "Herman, you need to run, if you keep doing that with that gal.", and Herman quit listening at "Herman, you need to run".

Herman Cain: God told me to run

 

[Madea]

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

Then your pastor and I would disagree.

 

[Guard Dad]

p

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

Then your pastor and I would disagree.

X2

Baptism is a demonstration of obedience, not a requirement for salvation.

 

[LisaC]

p

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

Then your pastor and I would disagree.

X2

Baptism is a demonstration of obedience, not a requirement for salvation.

I'm just repeating what he says when does baptisms on Sundays...

 

[Guard Dad]

p0

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

Then your pastor and I would disagree.

X2

Baptism is a demonstration of obedience, not a requirement for salvation.

I'm just repeating what he says when does baptisms on Sundays...

Ask him how he explains death bed conversions.

 

[stradial]

I'm getting a headache.

 

[Guard Dad]

I'm getting a headache.

Well, with a head like that.....

 

[LisaC]

p0

I really thought this was a fairly simple question.
Another thing, I'm glad I grew up in the Baptist church that I grew up in. We were never taught that Catholics are going to hell. I'm not sure why what the number birthday you were saved on matters. I never heard of these things. The holy rollers were looked at as not being all there, as were/are the snake handlers, but if they have a personal relationship with God, and they have accepted Jesus then they are saved.
As far as Catholics, we just were of the opinion that praying to other people then Jesus borders on idol worship. We also have an issue with confessing to a mortal man, who really doesn't have the power to forgive you of your sins. Then there is the issue with the Crucifix. Baptist see it as Jesus still on the cross. We wear a cross that is empty because Jesus was taken down, and placed in the tomb, then as we all know he rose 3 days later, and ascended to haven 40 days after that.
Anyway I'm thinking that the answer to the OP is that Muslims are actually Islamist. So, now that leads to the question, are all Islamist, Muslims? Like Christianity has different denominations is it the same for Islam?

The age of the birthday was not what matters, it was that I could not say that and the disdain that comes after. )

OK, never heard of that. :dunno Most people come to accept Jesus about the age of 12-15. Well at least in my experience.

I could not even tell you how many people have asked at what age was I when I was saved. I was christened at a month old. I did not have a baptism at another age.

I also wear a crucifix as a reminder that Jesus died on the cross for me. It is in the creed we say each week that he rose. It is believed that while Jesus was taken down, odds were that the nails were not and so we do not want to wear an empty cross. Though it is not mandated either way. It is more tradition in the church that we are reminded of his sacrifice by showing it. No one gets kicked out though for a bare cross!

Baptists don't believe that a Christening is enough because it is done at infancy and that the only way to salvation (to be saved) is to make a public profession of faith and be baptized (dunked/submerged in water) in that order.

I never actually thought about the nails on the cross - that is amazing. Wow!

Just to clarify (as a Baptist), baptism is not a "requirement" toward salvation, merely a public profession of faith. Personally, I don't care or ever think about whether or not a christening is "enough" (see prior sentence).

My pastor believes you must do both in order to have your salvation "nailed down"

Then your pastor and I would disagree.

X2

Baptism is a demonstration of obedience, not a requirement for salvation.

I'm just repeating what he says when does baptisms on Sundays...

Ask him how he explains death bed conversions.

He will likely describe them as a great thing. Again, I'm just repeating what he says when he does baptisms - he likes it when folks have their "salvation in order" - meaning you accept Jesus and are then baptized. NOT, that you thought you were saved, got baptized even though you weren't, and later came to Jesus. He tells folks all the time to get their salvation "nailed down" and "in order."

Service starts at 10:45 every Sunday morning - y'all come visit, you can ask him questions afterward, he loves talking about Jesus!!