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stradial date=1449785988 said:I ain't waving at you again.
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stradial date=1449785988 said:I ain't waving at you again.
:thgiveup:
Guard Dad date=1449755664 said:Sometimes it's the wording you use and the way you do it that determines legality.Boss 302 date=1449749604 said:It will be interesting to see how the polls change once the candidates currently polling in single digits begin to drop out of the race. Trump is saying what a lot of people want to say. I agree with him when he says we need to ban Muslims from other countries entering the country until we can get a handle on the Islamic terrorists. Those who claim doing so violates the Constitution are wrong. We've banned certain groups of people from entering the country in the past; Carter even did it. One problem with the left is they think our Constitution applies to foreigners who live outside the U.S.
Carter didn't specifically ban Muslims, he banned Iranian immigrants. So he targeted nationality, not religion.
Guard Dad date=1449783070 said:That's what bothers me. If we open that can of worms, how far would our government carry it? What about the next president or congress?
Tough dilemma. How many liberties do we give up in the name of security? Seems like there are better ways of handling this. The government already scours the internet with programs that look for certain key words and phrases. I'm not an expert on military intelligence or computer science; but it seems to me that it would be better to allow the bad guys to continue to use the internet so we can snoop on them and learn their plans and locations.
unionmom date=1449769288 said:Our best hope is controlling congress.
mei lan date=1449789763 said:unionmom date=1449769288 said:Our best hope is controlling congress.
Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.
I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.
BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.
honeybunny date=1449789879 said:mei lan date=1449789763 said:unionmom date=1449769288 said:Our best hope is controlling congress.
Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.
I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.
BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.
Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle
Carson is threatening to leave the GOP if they do so. It's very entertaining to see just how far the GOP is willing to go in order to get their puppet nominated. (And before any Dem thinks it's relevant just for the GOP don't fool yourself, it doesn't apply to Dems this cycle because they have only one viable candidate). I've said it before, I'm not a Trump guy but if he is the leader then the GOP should support him and the outcome as reflected by the will of the voters. Manipulation of the GOP primary is no better than counting votes of dead people, shipping in voters from other precincts, or allowing illegal immigrants to vote.honeybunny date=1449789879 said:mei lan date=1449789763 said:unionmom date=1449769288 said:Our best hope is controlling congress.
Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.
I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.
BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.
Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle
mei lan date=1449789763 said:unionmom date=1449769288 said:Our best hope is controlling congress.
Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.
I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.
BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.
mei lan date=1449789492 said:Guard Dad date=1449783070 said:That's what bothers me. If we open that can of worms, how far would our government carry it? What about the next president or congress?
Tough dilemma. How many liberties do we give up in the name of security? Seems like there are better ways of handling this. The government already scours the internet with programs that look for certain key words and phrases. I'm not an expert on military intelligence or computer science; but it seems to me that it would be better to allow the bad guys to continue to use the internet so we can snoop on them and learn their plans and locations.
And what if the next President thinks of white Christians as terrorists (hell, THIS President already does) and wants to block our interwebz? I don't disagree with The Donald in context (thanks, GC), but I think GD's plan of monitoring their comings and goings in cyberspace is a better one.
Guard Dad date=1450065508 said:I'll be glad when the primaries are over.
Ronald Reagan used to say never speak ill of another Republican. We could use a class act now.
honeybunny date=1449789879 said:mei lan date=1449789763 said:unionmom date=1449769288 said:Our best hope is controlling congress.
Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.
I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.
BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.
Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle
Sanders is fine. :laughGuard Dad date=1450129037 said:It's not Hillary's health I'm concerned about.