donald trump

[unionmom]

I ain't waving at you again.
:thgiveup:

 

[Winchester]

It will be interesting to see how the polls change once the candidates currently polling in single digits begin to drop out of the race. Trump is saying what a lot of people want to say. I agree with him when he says we need to ban Muslims from other countries entering the country until we can get a handle on the Islamic terrorists. Those who claim doing so violates the Constitution are wrong. We've banned certain groups of people from entering the country in the past; Carter even did it. One problem with the left is they think our Constitution applies to foreigners who live outside the U.S.

Sometimes it's the wording you use and the way you do it that determines legality.

Carter didn't specifically ban Muslims, he banned Iranian immigrants. So he targeted nationality, not religion.

They don't call it the "NATION of Islam" for a reason! It's not a religion and the sooner we realize that, the safer we will be.

 

[mei lan]

That's what bothers me. If we open that can of worms, how far would our government carry it? What about the next president or congress?

Tough dilemma. How many liberties do we give up in the name of security? Seems like there are better ways of handling this. The government already scours the internet with programs that look for certain key words and phrases. I'm not an expert on military intelligence or computer science; but it seems to me that it would be better to allow the bad guys to continue to use the internet so we can snoop on them and learn their plans and locations.

And what if the next President thinks of white Christians as terrorists (hell, THIS President already does) and wants to block our interwebz? I don't disagree with The Donald in context (thanks, GC), but I think GD's plan of monitoring their comings and goings in cyberspace is a better one.

 

[mei lan]

Our best hope is controlling congress.

Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.

I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.

BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.

 

[honeybunny]

Our best hope is controlling congress.

Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.

I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.

BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.

Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle

 

[mei lan]

Our best hope is controlling congress.

Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.

I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.

BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.

Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle

Oh, they would LOVE LOVE LOVE that. Some say Rick Perry may be waiting in the wings for such a thing, although I think the PTB would FAR MORE love to have Bush or Rubio step up and claim the prize.

 

[cptlo]

Trump calls Cruz 'a little bit of a maniac' and says he lacks the temperament to be president. Trump calling someone 'a little bit of a maniac' and questioning their temperament is like Hillary calling someone dishonest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoQNZ6mpcc

 

[Guard Dad]

I'll be glad when the primaries are over.

Ronald Reagan used to say never speak ill of another Republican. We could use a class act now.

 

[J-man]

Our best hope is controlling congress.

Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.

I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.

BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.

Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle

Carson is threatening to leave the GOP if they do so. It's very entertaining to see just how far the GOP is willing to go in order to get their puppet nominated. (And before any Dem thinks it's relevant just for the GOP don't fool yourself, it doesn't apply to Dems this cycle because they have only one viable candidate). I've said it before, I'm not a Trump guy but if he is the leader then the GOP should support him and the outcome as reflected by the will of the voters. Manipulation of the GOP primary is no better than counting votes of dead people, shipping in voters from other precincts, or allowing illegal immigrants to vote.

 

[Madea]

Our best hope is controlling congress.

Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.

I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.

BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.

The GOP establishment doesn't have a candidate strong enough to pull even Republican votes, much less anyone else.

 

[Madea]

That's what bothers me. If we open that can of worms, how far would our government carry it? What about the next president or congress?

Tough dilemma. How many liberties do we give up in the name of security? Seems like there are better ways of handling this. The government already scours the internet with programs that look for certain key words and phrases. I'm not an expert on military intelligence or computer science; but it seems to me that it would be better to allow the bad guys to continue to use the internet so we can snoop on them and learn their plans and locations.

And what if the next President thinks of white Christians as terrorists (hell, THIS President already does) and wants to block our interwebz? I don't disagree with The Donald in context (thanks, GC), but I think GD's plan of monitoring their comings and goings in cyberspace is a better one.

Supposedly, they are already monitored.

 

[Madea]

I'll be glad when the primaries are over.

Ronald Reagan used to say never speak ill of another Republican. We could use a class act now.

Then you aren't paying attention to Ted Cruz 8)

 

[Madea]

Our best hope is controlling congress.

Well, sweetie pie, I would agree with you, except for two things...nay, three - Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan. We've had the Congress for how long now, and every single thing Obama wants just gets railroaded through willy-nilly (and the pattern seems to be continuing with Paul Ryan with his agreeing to the spending bill including money for poorly-vetted refugees). They have done BUPKUS to stand up the President, and I don't see any indication that they will start.

I don't know that we have any hope, and thinking Trump may get things done may be a fantasy, but it's about all I'm left with. Cruz is my second choice, but he's enough establishment to worry me somewhat.

BTW - I'm hearing much that if Trump gets the nomination, the GOPe will run somebody third party so he won't get elected. That sounds stupid, but they are nothing if not stupid, as they prove time and time and time again. What they want most - WHAT THEY WANT MOST - is to continue at their places on the gravy train in DC. Anything else is unacceptable.

Ace is reporting on rumors of a brokered convention... :whistle

http://www.erickontheradio.com/2015/12/if-republicans-broker-their-convention-the-gop-can-go-to-hell/?utm_source=The+Conservative+Team&utm_campaign=23670f0c2f-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ed44836b36-23670f0c2f-266860525

 

[lotstodo]

We'll see about the convention. The "Romney Rules" adopted last convention could jump up and bite them in the ass if they tried it as the rules stand. Rule #12 is designed to allow the RNC in Washington the power to enact new rules between National Conventions without a delegate vote. They have already used this this year to change early state allocations from winner take all to percentage. This would possibly stop a defacto Trump win after the SEC Primary. However Rule 15 is far more troubling to them, because it declares a "presumptive nominee" and places unprecedented power directly in the hands of his campaign. Rule 15 allows the "presumptive nominee" to "disavow" any state elected deligates and force the state party to replace those delegates with ones the vote leader approves of. This could stave off a brokered convention if the "presumptive nominee" is Trump and he simply forces the large states to nominate Trump delegates. In other words, the leader going into the convention holds the aces. The RBC would have to change this rule before the convention, basically declare a candidate, and look like the asshats they are. That would be a PR nightmare far worse than what Ron Paul did to them last year.

Anyway, I don't see Trump surviving the real tests, and that is at the voting booth. He is going to get his butt stomped in Iowa, because the caucus process involves more than showing up at the polling place and casting a vote. Trump's people won't do that, I gay-ron-tee. The polls are already showing that among those who have caucused before, Cruz has an outstanding lead. South Carolina is showing the same for those who voted in the last Republican primary. The key for Trump is to get his people out to the polls and off the sofa without offering them free stuff like the Democrats do. I don't see it happening.

 

[Guard Dad]

As you guys know, I am not a Trump fan. But the GOP would be fools to ignore the voter's wishes. This would put the last nail in their coffin.

 

[cptlo]

Disclaimer: I know this is petty but it annoys me. )

Trump released a statement from his doctor today. Link = Click here

All sounds good and Trump is in great health according to his doctor. Great.

But why would his doctor include the following (and don't believe for a second that Trump or his people didn't ask/tell him to include it):

If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.

That's a stupid statement. How can this doctor know that? Even his doctor makes outlandish statements that can't be proven.

 

[Madea]

:smily-3:

 

[J-man]

Outlandish, yes, but another calculated statement knowing that Hillary's health is questionable. I'm not saying she's not healthy but there are stories floating around which raise doubts.

 

[Guard Dad]

It's not Hillary's health I'm concerned about.

 

[J-man]

It's not Hillary's health I'm concerned about.

Sanders is fine. :laugh