donald trump

I'd take it a step further and place a temporary hold on any and ALL immigration until Isis is stomped down. I don't have the exact dates, but our nation did that after the last immigration rush from Europe. But then the reason was to allow the new immigrants to assimilate to our society and our lifestyle. It's time to repeat that policy and stop it ALL for the time being.
 
honeybunny date=1449582309 said:
cptlo306 date=1449581959 said:
honeybunny date=1449581721 said:
cptlo306 date=1449581377 said:
honeybunny date=1449578770 said:
cptlo306 date=1449535158 said:
Another day...another stupid Trump policy.

Trump: It’s time for a “total and complete shutdown” of Muslims entering the U.S.; Update: Not my policy, says Cruz; Update: American citizens too


When asked by The Hill whether that would include Muslim-American citizens currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.'”

Kiss Our Intelligence Apparatus Goodnight. We need to work with Muslims both foreign and domestic. It’s one thing to label Islamic terrorism and radical Islam a problem. It’s another to label all individual Muslims a problem. That’s what this policy does. It’s factually wrong and ethically incomprehensible. Donald Trump has just transformed into the strawman President Obama abused on Sunday night.


He is not a serious candidate.




The primary constitutional obligation of our government
is the safety and security of American citizens. Full stop.



:girlsaysno


Did you miss this part?

When asked by The Hill whether that would include Muslim-American citizens currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.'”


[font=Lato, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]That pesky constitution.[/font]


And Americans who vacation in Syria and then wish to return ? ? ?


:whistle

Again, that pesky constitution gets in the way of removing their rights without due process.


You do not have a right to aid and abet the enemy.



;)

If convicted of providing aid to the enemy then they should be dealt with. But what about Muslim Americans that are travelling overseas that just want to come home? Trump says they would have to stay out of the U.S. despite being U.S. citizens. I really can't fathom how anyone sees this as OK.
 
Looks like he changed his plan.

“If a person is a Muslim, goes overseas and comes back, they can come back. They're a citizen. That's different,” Trump said. “But we have to figure things out.”
So at least he's being more reasonable and isn't in as much of a rush to shred the constitution.
 
cptlo306 date=1449582590 said:
honeybunny date=1449582309 said:
cptlo306 date=1449581959 said:
honeybunny date=1449581721 said:
cptlo306 date=1449581377 said:
honeybunny date=1449578770 said:
cptlo306 date=1449535158 said:
Another day...another stupid Trump policy.

Trump: It’s time for a “total and complete shutdown” of Muslims entering the U.S.; Update: Not my policy, says Cruz; Update: American citizens too


When asked by The Hill whether that would include Muslim-American citizens currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.'”

Kiss Our Intelligence Apparatus Goodnight. We need to work with Muslims both foreign and domestic. It’s one thing to label Islamic terrorism and radical Islam a problem. It’s another to label all individual Muslims a problem. That’s what this policy does. It’s factually wrong and ethically incomprehensible. Donald Trump has just transformed into the strawman President Obama abused on Sunday night.


He is not a serious candidate.




The primary constitutional obligation of our government
is the safety and security of American citizens. Full stop.



:girlsaysno


Did you miss this part?

When asked by The Hill whether that would include Muslim-American citizens currently abroad, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied over email: “Mr. Trump says, ‘everyone.'”


[font=Lato, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]That pesky constitution.[/font]


And Americans who vacation in Syria and then wish to return ? ? ?


:whistle

Again, that pesky constitution gets in the way of removing their rights without due process.


You do not have a right to aid and abet the enemy.



;)

If convicted of providing aid to the enemy then they should be dealt with. But what about Muslim Americans that are travelling overseas that just want to come home? Trump says they would have to stay out of the U.S. despite being U.S. citizens. I really can't fathom how anyone sees this as OK.
Are you referring to the San Bern shooter who was an American citizen and who went on a little vacation then returned? Or do you mean just the others? I think people are focusing more on the first portion of Trump's comments and not enough on the latter portion which qualified his entire point: "...until our leaders can figure out what the hell is going on."

Think about it for a moment. The Lame Stream Media and the GOP are all over it, they're trying so hard to take him down and hope this is the magic bullet that works. Trump said what many citizens are thinking and I personally applaud him for it. If we continue as usual and another incidence happens how many of our leaders will take responsibility for it? None...NODDA.
 
J-man date=1449606665 said:
Are you referring to the San Bern shooter who was an American citizen and who went on a little vacation then returned? Or do you mean just the others? I think people are focusing more on the first portion of Trump's comments and not enough on the latter portion which qualified his entire point: "...until our leaders can figure out what the hell is going on."
He changed his plan to allow Muslim Americans to come and go so under his plan the San Bern shooter would have been allowed to return. So, given that, how exactly does his plan help?
 
Lot of Trump bashing on the left and the right.
What more evidence do you need that he is the right man for the job.
 
Without suspending ALL then it wouldn't do much good at all (in my opinion). He only revised his comments after facing such a backlash.
 
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?
 
As mentioned before, Trump's negatives are like 26%.

Trump is a smart guy, no doubt about it. Surely he knows that he would get more support if he acted with tact and professionalism.

That bothers me.
 
A judge somewhere has to declare you an imminent danger to yourself or others, or you have to sign over your rights as a condition of bail being set. We don't remove people's constitutional rights without due process, and due process has always involved a judge.

I find it hilarious that the NYT ran an editorial last year saying that the no fly list was unconstitutional because it removed a person's non existent right to fly without due process, but last week they ran an editorial saying that they want to use the no fly list to remove your second amendment rights without due process.

The flip side of that coin are the people who use that same pretzel logic to bar people from entering the country based entirely upon religion. Not even an accusation of terrorist connections beyond the name of their imaginary friend.

The Free Exercise Clause is well rooted in tort. It all boils down to two sentences in Reynolds vs. United States: "Congress cannot pass a law for the government of the Territory which shall prohibit the free exercise of religion. The first amendment to the Constitution expressly forbids such legislation. Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious beliefs and opinions, they may with practices." In other words, they can regulate an activity, say blowing people up, but they cannot discriminate against one Muslim for the actions of another just because they have a prayer mat in their trunk.
 
lotstodo date=1449608703 said:
A judge somewhere has to declare you an imminent danger to yourself or others, or you have to sign over your rights as a condition of bail being set. We don't remove people's constitutional rights without due process, and due process has always involved a judge.

I find it hilarious that the NYT ran an editorial last year saying that the no fly list was unconstitutional because it removed a person's non existent right to fly without due process, but last week they ran an editorial saying that they want to use the no fly list to remove your second amendment rights without due process.

The flip side of that coin are the people who use that same pretzel logic to bar people from entering the country based entirely upon religion. Not even an accusation of terrorist connections beyond the name of their imaginary friend.

The Free Exercise Clause is well rooted in tort. It all boils down to two sentences in Reynolds vs. United States: "Congress cannot pass a law for the government of the Territory which shall prohibit the free exercise of religion. The first amendment to the Constitution expressly forbids such legislation. Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious beliefs and opinions, they may with practices." In other words, they can regulate an activity, say blowing people up, but they cannot discriminate against one Muslim for the actions of another just because they have a prayer mat in their trunk.
But..but...GO TRUMP!
 
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.
 
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:
 
Winchester date=1449615160 said:
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:

I agree with that but I also don't think he would be a very good president at all.
 
cptlo306 date=1449615330 said:
Winchester date=1449615160 said:
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:

I agree with that but I also don't think he would be a very good president at all.

But you also think the McRib is fine eating.
 
stradial date=1449615788 said:
cptlo306 date=1449615330 said:
Winchester date=1449615160 said:
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:

I agree with that but I also don't think he would be a very good president at all.

But you also think the McRib is fine eating.

Who doesn't????????????
 
cptlo306 date=1449616126 said:
stradial date=1449615788 said:
cptlo306 date=1449615330 said:
Winchester date=1449615160 said:
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:

I agree with that but I also don't think he would be a very good president at all.

But you also think the McRib is fine eating.

Who doesn't????????????

Aaaand my point is made.

:drops mike and walks off:
 
stradial date=1449617726 said:
cptlo306 date=1449616126 said:
stradial date=1449615788 said:
cptlo306 date=1449615330 said:
Winchester date=1449615160 said:
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:

I agree with that but I also don't think he would be a very good president at all.

But you also think the McRib is fine eating.

Who doesn't????????????

Aaaand my point is made.

:drops mike and walks off:
:firstplace
 
stradial date=1449617726 said:
cptlo306 date=1449616126 said:
stradial date=1449615788 said:
cptlo306 date=1449615330 said:
Winchester date=1449615160 said:
cptlo306 date=1449614298 said:
stradial date=1449608517 said:
Here's a question.
The left wing bashes Trump and the right wing bashes Trump.
Could that possibly be because neither side can control and use him to further their own personal goals?

Could be. Or it could be because he would be a danger to this country as president.

He would be a danger to the "establishment" and THAT is why he's being attacked by all sides. :5_1_120:

I agree with that but I also don't think he would be a very good president at all.

But you also think the McRib is fine eating.

Who doesn't????????????

Aaaand my point is made.

:drops mike and walks off:

Who is Mike and why were you holding him?

:gayviolet:
 
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