CNN Debate - Wednesday

Guard Dad date=1442456630 said:
I just don't get this Trump worship.

I just had a run-in with someone many of you know on Facebook over him. She's a rock solid conservative / Libertarian, but she's all about Trump.

Well, it wasn't moi, but I'm all about him, too. And here's the reason - the GOPe strategery is to split the conservative vote so JEB can win the nomination. Also, they are all beholden to campaign money except DT...he is funding his OWN campaign to the tune of $1B or so. See theconservativetreehouse.com for the background on this. Trump comes along being a plain speaker, zeroing in on issues that actually MATTER to us little tax-paying peons out here in flyover country, and sorry, but he's sounding really good to me. I won't guarantee that I'll vote for him, but I'm solidly behind him right now.

What I don't get is the vitriol surrounding his candidacy and why everybody who doesn't like him think that those of us who do are complete idiots. I don't care if you don't like him, and I'm not gonna call you nasty names. Not that you have, but an AWFUL lot of people have.
 
Oh, and I don't worship ANYBODY but God. I don't kid myself as to what DT is or isn't. But if he does even a tenth of the stuff he's gearing up for, I'll be happy.
 
mei lan date=1442457510 said:
Oh, and I don't worship ANYBODY but God. I don't kid myself as to what DT is or isn't. But if he does even a tenth of the stuff he's gearing up for, I'll be happy.
Seriously, true. :thumbsup
 
mei lan date=1442457510 said:
Oh, and I don't worship ANYBODY but God. I don't kid myself as to what DT is or isn't. But if he does even a tenth of the stuff he's gearing up for, I'll be happy.
And truth be told there's no guarantee any other candidate, from any party, will do any better than the Trumpmistre.
 
mei lan date=1442457465 said:
Guard Dad date=1442456630 said:
I just don't get this Trump worship.

I just had a run-in with someone many of you know on Facebook over him. She's a rock solid conservative / Libertarian, but she's all about Trump.

Well, it wasn't moi, but I'm all about him, too. And here's the reason - the GOPe strategery is to split the conservative vote so JEB can win the nomination. Also, they are all beholden to campaign money except DT...he is funding his OWN campaign to the tune of $1B or so. See theconservativetreehouse.com for the background on this. Trump comes along being a plain speaker, zeroing in on issues that actually MATTER to us little tax-paying peons out here in flyover country, and sorry, but he's sounding really good to me. I won't guarantee that I'll vote for him, but I'm solidly behind him right now.

What I don't get is the vitriol surrounding his candidacy and why everybody who doesn't like him think that those of us who do are complete idiots. I don't care if you don't like him, and I'm not gonna call you nasty names. Not that you have, but an AWFUL lot of people have.
He said it himself in the debate...he's been a politician all his life. He has been on the side you hate...the one that bought and sold politicians.

Donald Trump is the ultimate opportunist. He says the things he says because he has hired focus groups to determine which issues push teh voter's buttons. I don't believe a thing he says.

Donald Trump only gives a damn about Donald Trump.
 
Guard Dad date=1442457844 said:
mei lan date=1442457465 said:
Guard Dad date=1442456630 said:
I just don't get this Trump worship.

I just had a run-in with someone many of you know on Facebook over him. She's a rock solid conservative / Libertarian, but she's all about Trump.

Well, it wasn't moi, but I'm all about him, too. And here's the reason - the GOPe strategery is to split the conservative vote so JEB can win the nomination. Also, they are all beholden to campaign money except DT...he is funding his OWN campaign to the tune of $1B or so. See theconservativetreehouse.com for the background on this. Trump comes along being a plain speaker, zeroing in on issues that actually MATTER to us little tax-paying peons out here in flyover country, and sorry, but he's sounding really good to me. I won't guarantee that I'll vote for him, but I'm solidly behind him right now.

What I don't get is the vitriol surrounding his candidacy and why everybody who doesn't like him think that those of us who do are complete idiots. I don't care if you don't like him, and I'm not gonna call you nasty names. Not that you have, but an AWFUL lot of people have.
He said it himself in the debate...he's been a politician all his life. He has been on the side you hate...the one that bought and sold politicians.

Donald Trump is the ultimate opportunist. He says the things he says because he has hired focus groups to determine which issues push teh voter's buttons. I don't believe a thing he says.

Donald Trump only gives a damn about Donald Trump.
And that's any different than which other candidate (or current elected official)?
 
Guard Dad date=1442457894 said:
Holy moly Carly was passionate about PP and abortion!! She was pissed!!!

That was her best part of the evening. She was shrill and interrupty the rest of the night.
 
J-man date=1442457923 said:
Guard Dad date=1442457844 said:
mei lan date=1442457465 said:
Guard Dad date=1442456630 said:
I just don't get this Trump worship.

I just had a run-in with someone many of you know on Facebook over him. She's a rock solid conservative / Libertarian, but she's all about Trump.

Well, it wasn't moi, but I'm all about him, too. And here's the reason - the GOPe strategery is to split the conservative vote so JEB can win the nomination. Also, they are all beholden to campaign money except DT...he is funding his OWN campaign to the tune of $1B or so. See theconservativetreehouse.com for the background on this. Trump comes along being a plain speaker, zeroing in on issues that actually MATTER to us little tax-paying peons out here in flyover country, and sorry, but he's sounding really good to me. I won't guarantee that I'll vote for him, but I'm solidly behind him right now.

What I don't get is the vitriol surrounding his candidacy and why everybody who doesn't like him think that those of us who do are complete idiots. I don't care if you don't like him, and I'm not gonna call you nasty names. Not that you have, but an AWFUL lot of people have.
He said it himself in the debate...he's been a politician all his life. He has been on the side you hate...the one that bought and sold politicians.

Donald Trump is the ultimate opportunist. He says the things he says because he has hired focus groups to determine which issues push teh voter's buttons. I don't believe a thing he says.

Donald Trump only gives a damn about Donald Trump.
And that's any different than which other candidate (or current elected official)?
I think some of them do believe in some of the issues. Whether or not they will follow through is another story.

Trump believes in money and power.
 
Guard Dad date=1442457844 said:
mei lan date=1442457465 said:
Guard Dad date=1442456630 said:
I just don't get this Trump worship.

I just had a run-in with someone many of you know on Facebook over him. She's a rock solid conservative / Libertarian, but she's all about Trump.

Well, it wasn't moi, but I'm all about him, too. And here's the reason - the GOPe strategery is to split the conservative vote so JEB can win the nomination. Also, they are all beholden to campaign money except DT...he is funding his OWN campaign to the tune of $1B or so. See theconservativetreehouse.com for the background on this. Trump comes along being a plain speaker, zeroing in on issues that actually MATTER to us little tax-paying peons out here in flyover country, and sorry, but he's sounding really good to me. I won't guarantee that I'll vote for him, but I'm solidly behind him right now.

What I don't get is the vitriol surrounding his candidacy and why everybody who doesn't like him think that those of us who do are complete idiots. I don't care if you don't like him, and I'm not gonna call you nasty names. Not that you have, but an AWFUL lot of people have.
He said it himself in the debate...he's been a politician all his life. He has been on the side you hate...the one that bought and sold politicians.

Donald Trump is the ultimate opportunist. He says the things he says because he has hired focus groups to determine which issues push teh voter's buttons. I don't believe a thing he says.

Donald Trump only gives a damn about Donald Trump.

In your opinion. I disagree. Why do you not think he could change (assuming for a minute that your assessment of his past is correct)? Reagan was a Democrat for years before he switched over. I would also say that he's a New Yorker (Diva will back me up on this) - you have to play a COMPLETELY different game if you want to survive up there. You wanna redo your kitchen? Get ready to deal with unions. Wanna buy a piano? Get ready to wait for a union employee to operate the elevator. Etc., etc., etc. TOTAL different world than anywhere else in the country.

But again - I just don't get why so many automatically disbelieve what he says. I mean, I don't mind, but I don't automatically assume anything about any of the other candidates. The fact that he's funding his own campaign gives a lot of weight to me as to backing up what he is saying.
 
DT and Carson agree on vaccinations. DT is in favor of vaccinations, but spread out over a period of time.
 
Guard Dad date=1442457844 said:
He said it himself in the debate...he's been a politician all his life. He has been on the side you hate...the one that bought and sold politicians.

Donald Trump is the ultimate opportunist. He says the things he says because he has hired focus groups to determine which issues push teh voter's buttons. I don't believe a thing he says.

Donald Trump only gives a damn about Donald Trump.
That is the good thing about him. He will do what will make him look good and show he is a winner. If he wins, I know he can not do all, but he will at least try to do enough good that people will think he is the best thing since the martini was invented..ok, that is a bit too much, but after 8 years of what we had I think he knows if he wins the presidency he can declare any change to bring the Great America Back as a win. That is what he wants, wins. If it works as a win for the American people I do not care how much glow he basks in.
 
I assume they're all lying if they're breathing while they're speaking.
 
Guard Dad date=1442458110 said:
I think some of them do believe in some of the issues. Whether or not they will follow through is another story.

Trump believes in money and power.

And the others don't? Carly Fiorina made over $100M with HP. None of them would be there if they didn't believe in power.
 
mei lan date=1442458292 said:
Guard Dad date=1442457844 said:
mei lan date=1442457465 said:
Guard Dad date=1442456630 said:
I just don't get this Trump worship.

I just had a run-in with someone many of you know on Facebook over him. She's a rock solid conservative / Libertarian, but she's all about Trump.

Well, it wasn't moi, but I'm all about him, too. And here's the reason - the GOPe strategery is to split the conservative vote so JEB can win the nomination. Also, they are all beholden to campaign money except DT...he is funding his OWN campaign to the tune of $1B or so. See theconservativetreehouse.com for the background on this. Trump comes along being a plain speaker, zeroing in on issues that actually MATTER to us little tax-paying peons out here in flyover country, and sorry, but he's sounding really good to me. I won't guarantee that I'll vote for him, but I'm solidly behind him right now.

What I don't get is the vitriol surrounding his candidacy and why everybody who doesn't like him think that those of us who do are complete idiots. I don't care if you don't like him, and I'm not gonna call you nasty names. Not that you have, but an AWFUL lot of people have.
He said it himself in the debate...he's been a politician all his life. He has been on the side you hate...the one that bought and sold politicians.

Donald Trump is the ultimate opportunist. He says the things he says because he has hired focus groups to determine which issues push teh voter's buttons. I don't believe a thing he says.

Donald Trump only gives a damn about Donald Trump.

In your opinion. I disagree. Why do you not think he could change (assuming for a minute that your assessment of his past is correct)? Reagan was a Democrat for years before he switched over. I would also say that he's a New Yorker (Diva will back me up on this) - you have to play a COMPLETELY different game if you want to survive up there. You wanna redo your kitchen? Get ready to deal with unions. Wanna buy a piano? Get ready to wait for a union employee to operate the elevator. Etc., etc., etc. TOTAL different world than anywhere else in the country.

But again - I just don't get why so many automatically disbelieve what he says. I mean, I don't mind, but I don't automatically assume anything about any of the other candidates. The fact that he's funding his own campaign gives a lot of weight to me as to backing up what he is saying.
Reagan said the Democrats left him. I agree.

Short of some kind of great revelation in their lives; people's characters tend to stay constant. I see no reason Trump's character would have changed when he decided to run for president. Only his dialogue, because he knows what the people want to hear.
 
I'm watching the re-run on CNN, I just spewed tobacco juice when Trump said he would want his Secret Service code name to be "Humble."
 
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