Ben Carson
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Waski_the_Squirrel
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For what it's worth, while I clearly don't want Carson as president, I see this as poor communication and a little bit of inappropriate bragging. Hardly anything worth getting this amount of attention. I work all day, so I missed the whole firestorm.
But he really did say the other things I've posted. :taunt
But he really did say the other things I've posted. :taunt
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cptlo306 date=1446846115 said:
NOOOooooo! Say it ain't so! There are no dirty politics in this Country, just ask them.
Boss 302
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A lot of bogus crap about Carson and West Point is being spread all over the place, including here. Listen up people because there are two types of nominations to be accepted at West Point; Congressional and Service Connected. Here's a little more information about service connected nominations:
Carson excelled as a JROTC cadet in high school. If General Westmoreland was willing to nominate Carson who had proven himself academically and having leadership potential many look for in nominations, Carson only had to say, "yes" and he would have been in. When I was a high school senior and some general offered me the opportunity to go to West Point, I too would have considered it a scholarship because I wouldn't be paying for tuition.
This is nothing more than a witch hunt because Carson is a black conservative at the top of the GOP polls with Trump. I would not be surprised if Trump was the one who got Politico to run with this. It's not the first time Politco has done this to a black conservative presidential candidate. Just ask Herman Cain. In his press conference, Carson brought up a very good point about the hypocrisy of the liberal news media - why didn't they ever challenge Obama for sealing his college records? What did he have to hide?
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Carson excelled as a JROTC cadet in high school. If General Westmoreland was willing to nominate Carson who had proven himself academically and having leadership potential many look for in nominations, Carson only had to say, "yes" and he would have been in. When I was a high school senior and some general offered me the opportunity to go to West Point, I too would have considered it a scholarship because I wouldn't be paying for tuition.
This is nothing more than a witch hunt because Carson is a black conservative at the top of the GOP polls with Trump. I would not be surprised if Trump was the one who got Politico to run with this. It's not the first time Politco has done this to a black conservative presidential candidate. Just ask Herman Cain. In his press conference, Carson brought up a very good point about the hypocrisy of the liberal news media - why didn't they ever challenge Obama for sealing his college records? What did he have to hide?
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I heard that after further investigation of Ben Carson's autobiography, the media has determined that he was in fact, never born.
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honeybunny
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Politico quietly and shamelessly retracts dishonest headline...
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lotstodo
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They didn't retract it, and that what's so shameful. They simply changed it with no explanation or apology. They never publicly acknowledged any wrongdoing. Politico is no better than Huffpo. Crowd sourced news aggregators who either steal stories or pay for them as piecework are the bane of honest journalism. They have no want or means of fact checking, and their only editorial control is in the stories they choose to publish.
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Dang that Ben Carson, not being straight forward, open and honest!!
Waski_the_Squirrel
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stradial date=1446928145 said:Dang that Ben Carson, not being straight forward, open and honest!!
I'm not an Obama fan at all, but, in fairness, #1, #2, and #4 are private records. These records are sealed for all of us unless we choose to release them under FERPA, 1974. Even Bush refused to release his college records (though they were leaked in violation of the law). As for #3, it was not a thesis like a PhD thesis. It was most likely tossed by the professor.
For #5, his selective service record is 61-1125539-1. He registered on September 4, 1980. I'm not sure what is being hidden here. It's easy to look up.
For #6, he released summary medical information and was pronounced to be in excellent health.
#7 and #8: a politician's voting record is public information and not sealed. I guess his personal calendar is not released because I couldn't find anything about it. But, again, it's private.
#9 is true but incomplete. He never released a specific list of his own clients, though a general list of the firm's clients was released. In 2008, he did confirm some clients he was specifically asked about, including ACORN.
#10 and #1 belong in birther conspiracy theorist territory, especially since they have been released.
#12: Personally, I don't care. It's a private thing. But, he was baptized in Reverend Jeremiah Wright's wacky church in 1988. Frankly, the wackiness of this church should be the concern, not the baptism. Also, his convenient withdrawal from the church should be the concern when the media started investigating it, again, not his baptism.
#13: She can resume law practice at any time. All she has done is inactivate her license so she doesn't have to continue taking classes. I've done the same thing with my Pennsylvania teaching license. What I've been doing in North Dakota the last 16 years doesn't count in Pennsylvania, and they will cancel my licence if I hadn't deactivated it.
#14: Not true. Laura Bush, for example, had at least 18, and (though this is emotional) I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary Clinton had more.
The original from which this is taken had two more claims:
#15: Obama did not take foreign student aid. That was a flat-out lie.
#16: He did not travel to Pakistan on a foreign passport and Pakistan did not ban US passports at that time.
I think he has been a weak, ineffective president. But, that doesn't make everything bad about him true. This particular meme has been debunked many times.
There is plenty that's actually real to use to attack both Obama and Carson. Neither one requires us to make stuff up.
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If you want to lead the free world, release everything!Waski_the_Squirrel date=1446946008 said:stradial date=1446928145 said:Dang that Ben Carson, not being straight forward, open and honest!!
I'm not an Obama fan at all, but, in fairness, #1, #2, and #4 are private records. These records are sealed for all of us unless we choose to release them under FERPA, 1974. Even Bush refused to release his college records (though they were leaked in violation of the law). As for #3, it was not a thesis like a PhD thesis. It was most likely tossed by the professor.
For #5, his selective service record is 61-1125539-1. He registered on September 4, 1980. I'm not sure what is being hidden here. It's easy to look up.
For #6, he released summary medical information and was pronounced to be in excellent health.
#7 and #8: a politician's voting record is public information and not sealed. I guess his personal calendar is not released because I couldn't find anything about it. But, again, it's private.
#9 is true but incomplete. He never released a specific list of his own clients, though a general list of the firm's clients was released. In 2008, he did confirm some clients he was specifically asked about, including ACORN.
#10 and #1 belong in birther conspiracy theorist territory, especially since they have been released.
#12: Personally, I don't care. It's a private thing. But, he was baptized in Reverend Jeremiah Wright's wacky church in 1988. Frankly, the wackiness of this church should be the concern, not the baptism. Also, his convenient withdrawal from the church should be the concern when the media started investigating it, again, not his baptism.
#13: She can resume law practice at any time. All she has done is inactivate her license so she doesn't have to continue taking classes. I've done the same thing with my Pennsylvania teaching license. What I've been doing in North Dakota the last 16 years doesn't count in Pennsylvania, and they will cancel my licence if I hadn't deactivated it.
#14: Not true. Laura Bush, for example, had at least 18, and (though this is emotional) I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary Clinton had more.
The original from which this is taken had two more claims:
#15: Obama did not take foreign student aid. That was a flat-out lie.
#16: He did not travel to Pakistan on a foreign passport and Pakistan did not ban US passports at that time.
I think he has been a weak, ineffective president. But, that doesn't make everything bad about him true. This particular meme has been debunked many times.
There is plenty that's actually real to use to attack both Obama and Carson. Neither one requires us to make stuff up.
Waski_the_Squirrel
Resident of the least visited state in the nation.
stradial date=1446954832 said:If you want to lead the free world, release everything!Waski_the_Squirrel date=1446946008 said:stradial date=1446928145 said:Dang that Ben Carson, not being straight forward, open and honest!!
I'm not an Obama fan at all, but, in fairness, #1, #2, and #4 are private records. These records are sealed for all of us unless we choose to release them under FERPA, 1974. Even Bush refused to release his college records (though they were leaked in violation of the law). As for #3, it was not a thesis like a PhD thesis. It was most likely tossed by the professor.
For #5, his selective service record is 61-1125539-1. He registered on September 4, 1980. I'm not sure what is being hidden here. It's easy to look up.
For #6, he released summary medical information and was pronounced to be in excellent health.
#7 and #8: a politician's voting record is public information and not sealed. I guess his personal calendar is not released because I couldn't find anything about it. But, again, it's private.
#9 is true but incomplete. He never released a specific list of his own clients, though a general list of the firm's clients was released. In 2008, he did confirm some clients he was specifically asked about, including ACORN.
#10 and #1 belong in birther conspiracy theorist territory, especially since they have been released.
#12: Personally, I don't care. It's a private thing. But, he was baptized in Reverend Jeremiah Wright's wacky church in 1988. Frankly, the wackiness of this church should be the concern, not the baptism. Also, his convenient withdrawal from the church should be the concern when the media started investigating it, again, not his baptism.
#13: She can resume law practice at any time. All she has done is inactivate her license so she doesn't have to continue taking classes. I've done the same thing with my Pennsylvania teaching license. What I've been doing in North Dakota the last 16 years doesn't count in Pennsylvania, and they will cancel my licence if I hadn't deactivated it.
#14: Not true. Laura Bush, for example, had at least 18, and (though this is emotional) I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary Clinton had more.
The original from which this is taken had two more claims:
#15: Obama did not take foreign student aid. That was a flat-out lie.
#16: He did not travel to Pakistan on a foreign passport and Pakistan did not ban US passports at that time.
I think he has been a weak, ineffective president. But, that doesn't make everything bad about him true. This particular meme has been debunked many times.
There is plenty that's actually real to use to attack both Obama and Carson. Neither one requires us to make stuff up.
I don't disagree with that (even though Bush wasn't held to this standard). However, I do have a problem with this particular meme because of the misinformation contained within it.