Ben Carson

[cptlo]

Here is his speech at the Heritage Action Forum yesterday. He's much better in these than in debates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuOBa7TJWA

 

[lotstodo]

He really is a good speaker.

 

[mei lan]

Agreed. That stupid debate format just isn't conducive to seeing candidates at their best.

 

[Boss 302]

Agreed. That stupid debate format just isn't conducive to seeing candidates at their best.

I agree. They should limit the main debate to the top 3 or 4, and the rest can participate in the "kiddy table" debates.

 

[lotstodo]

Agreed. That stupid debate format just isn't conducive to seeing candidates at their best.

I agree. They should limit the main debate to the top 3 or 4, and the rest can participate in the "kiddy table" debates.

The problem with that is that the top three or four now may not even be in the race after the SEC primary. Swings of 20% in the polls are not terribly uncommon at this point in the race, and those without the name recognition deserve a fair shot. It wasn't that long ago that Perry was near the top.

 

[cptlo]

Ben Carson says a Muslim shouldn't be president.

This probably won't help him but at least he isn't afraid to share his opinion.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Ben Carson says a Muslim shouldn't be president.

This probably won't help him but at least he isn't afraid to share his opinion.

His shared opinion though could hurt him if he were to be the candidate, but if that is his honest opinion then it is. I would rather know these things before elections than after. (Not specifically that, but how candidates really feel about things.) The percentages between a D and an R supporting a Muslim, did not surprise me at all. I was just a bit surprised at the vast difference between the older and younger generations. That is not a number to sneeze at when it comes to votes. )

 

[CarryOn]

CAIR is going after one of our own. CAIR has been listed as a terrorist group by the UAE and Saudi Arabia. CAIR has been to the White House and had numerous meetings with officials there. Let's stop this or at the very least, put this info out to social media. Don't let the Democrats be the only ones fighting for what they believe in.

 

[Guard Dad]

His comment initially concerned me, but he makes some very good points to back it up. Primarily that Islam is not just a religion, it is a lifestyle. And that Sharia law is not compatible with our constitution.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/ben-carson-fires-back-schools-media-on-islam-sharia-and-taqiya.html/

 

[Boss 302]

His comment initially concerned me, but he makes some very good points to back it up. Primarily that Islam is not just a religion, it is a lifestyle. And that Sharia law is not compatible with our constitution.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/ben-carson-fires-back-schools-media-on-islam-sharia-and-taqiya.html/

I completely agree with Carson on this.

 

[cptlo]

His comment initially concerned me, but he makes some very good points to back it up. Primarily that Islam is not just a religion, it is a lifestyle. And that Sharia law is not compatible with our constitution.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/ben-carson-fires-back-schools-media-on-islam-sharia-and-taqiya.html/

I completely agree with Carson on this.

I do too but the press will spin it negatively which I think will hurt him.

 

[Boss 302]

His comment initially concerned me, but he makes some very good points to back it up. Primarily that Islam is not just a religion, it is a lifestyle. And that Sharia law is not compatible with our constitution.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/ben-carson-fires-back-schools-media-on-islam-sharia-and-taqiya.html/

I completely agree with Carson on this.

I do too but the press will spin it negatively which I think will hurt him.

Regardless how the MSM attempts to spin this, I don't think it would hurt him with independent nor conservative voters. It will with liberals, but they don't normally vote for conservatives anyway.

 

[LisaC]

It won't hurt him with me - he's not even on my short list...

 

[Guard Dad]

The founding fathers probably would have agreed with Carson regarding Islam

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/founding-fathers-would-have-agreed-with-ben-carson-on-islam

 

[ShoeDiva]

It won't hurt him with me - he's not even on my short list...

He has not been on mine for a while. I think he is a brilliant doctor.

 

[Waski_the_Squirrel]

Kennedy fell under suspicion because he was Catholic. There were questions of whether a Catholic president would be under the thumb of the pope.

That said, politicians who wear their religion on their sleeve scare me. That's why I won't be voting for Carson, Cruz, or Huckabee. I feel the same about an equivalent Muslim president or, indeed, a politician of any religion.

The trouble is that Carson limits it to Muslims and refuses to see that the same thing applies to any religion.

 

[Guard Dad]

The trouble is that Carson limits it to Muslims and refuses to see that the same thing applies to any religion.

The articles posted kinda explains the difference. Muslims often put their faith way over government or country, where most Christians know when to keep the two somewhat separated. So a fundamentalist Muslim would likely follow the Sharia over our constitution.

 

[Waski_the_Squirrel]

The trouble is that Carson limits it to Muslims and refuses to see that the same thing applies to any religion.

The articles posted kinda explains the difference. Muslims often put their faith way over government or country, where most Christians know when to keep the two somewhat separated. So a fundamentalist Muslim would likely follow the Sharia over our constitution.

Ms. Davis of Kentucky is a Christian example of what Mr. Carson is talking about.

Mr. Carson himself is an example: he refuses to accept evolution because of his religious beliefs. And you, yourself, used the key word: "fundamentalist".

For every person who claims that Christians know when to keep the two "somewhat separated", there are plenty of Christian examples of those who do not.

Again, I say that it's not Muslims that are the problem, it's the fundamentalists of any religion. Are there more Muslim fundamentalists? I don't have data, but I suspect the answer is "yes". But that doesn't make "Muslim" a disqualifier any more than it does "Christian", "Buddhist," or "Hindu." The key is the fundamentalist part.

Someone who allows their interpretation of their religion to trump evidence and logic does not belong in any office.

 

[Guard Dad]

The trouble is that Carson limits it to Muslims and refuses to see that the same thing applies to any religion.

The articles posted kinda explains the difference. Muslims often put their faith way over government or country, where most Christians know when to keep the two somewhat separated. So a fundamentalist Muslim would likely follow the Sharia over our constitution.

Ms. Davis of Kentucky is a Christian example of what Mr. Carson is talking about.

Mr. Carson himself is an example: he refuses to accept evolution because of his religious beliefs. And you, yourself, used the key word: "fundamentalist".

For every person who claims that Christians know when to keep the two "somewhat separated", there are plenty of Christian examples of those who do not.

Again, I say that it's not Muslims that are the problem, it's the fundamentalists of any religion. Are there more Muslim fundamentalists? I don't have data, but I suspect the answer is "yes". But that doesn't make "Muslim" a disqualifier any more than it does "Christian", "Buddhist," or "Hindu." The key is the fundamentalist part.

Someone who allows their interpretation of their religion to trump evidence and logic does not belong in any office.

But Ms. Davis is not the President, and Carson's comments were limited to that particular office.

 

[honeybunny]

The trouble is that Carson limits it to Muslims and refuses to see that the same thing applies to any religion.

The articles posted kinda explains the difference. Muslims often put their faith way over government or country, where most Christians know when to keep the two somewhat separated. So a fundamentalist Muslim would likely follow the Sharia over our constitution.

Ms. Davis of Kentucky is a Christian example of what Mr. Carson is talking about.

Mr. Carson himself is an example: he refuses to accept evolution because of his religious beliefs. And you, yourself, used the key word: "fundamentalist".

For every person who claims that Christians know when to keep the two "somewhat separated", there are plenty of Christian examples of those who do not.

Again, I say that it's not Muslims that are the problem, it's the fundamentalists of any religion. Are there more Muslim fundamentalists? I don't have data, but I suspect the answer is "yes". But that doesn't make "Muslim" a disqualifier any more than it does "Christian", "Buddhist," or "Hindu." The key is the fundamentalist part.

Someone who allows their interpretation of their religion to trump evidence and logic does not belong in any office.

The key is that Islamism is fundamentally
different than the other religions you cited.


http://www.danielpipes.org/366/islam-and-islamism-faith-and-ideology