Covid is right here, and it's getting bad fast.

I can attest, Long COVID is real. I'm still not what I was before the WuFlu and may not ever be. I still can't sleep well, energy levels down, probably not as sharp as I was, and have more joint pains. I think it aged me by a few years.

I hope medical science will put some effort into understanding this and maybe find a way to treat it.

 
I haven't been following this that closely. Did Pfizer ever specifically say their vaccine would prevent transmission, or was it just everyone else in power saying it?
 
cptlo said:
I haven't been following this that closely. Did Pfizer ever specifically say their vaccine would prevent transmission, or was it just everyone else in power saying it?
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Good question, I don't recall hearing that much about it preventing transmission, only that the vaccines were like 94% effective against infection. But, that turned out to be false as well. My understanding is that the mRNA vaccines really don't prevent people from getting it so much as they primed the immune system to rapidly attack and kill the virus once it is detected within the body. And that was for the original strain of COVID.

I'm not a medical scientist, but I would think that there's a strong connection between having the virus and being able to transmit the virus. Meaning, if you don't have it, can you transmit it? I would think not.

Perhaps the larger question is...if the vaccines didn't prevent transmission, then what was the rational behind the mandates?

From what I understand, Fauci and Biden both stated that vaccinated people can't spread COVID, and we now know that to be false. And the mandates really didn't start until the vaccine's effectiveness dropped because of the variants.

This whole mess has been a massive disinformation campaign, much of it coming from people we're supposed to be able to trust. Fauci originally stated that the pandemic would be over when we reached herd immunity, and that was a correct statement. I believe that is where we're at now. And remember...he said this well before we had vaccines, so he was referring to immunity from prior infection.

But then, the vaccines came out and natural immunity was first said to only last 30-90 days (depending on who you listen to), and then Fauci and the CDC basically said natural immunity didn't exist. All while credible reports were coming out of other countries that natural immunity was "robust and durable" (the terminology they always used), and that natural immunity was fairing better against infection that the vaccines. When asked about those reports, Fauci and Walenski would dodge the question and claim they didn't have any data to support those claims. Which was BS, BTW. Some of those reports were peer reviewed and turned out to be spot on!

I think it's extremely obvious that money drove the narrative, and I am not OK with that. And money and power suppressed a lot of correct information that a "free" people should have had access to.

And though I do think the vaccines bought us some time, nature is winning the war. Especially since the virus has mutated as it has, I think natural immunity has played a far bigger roll in ending the pandemic than the vaccines have.
 
cptlo said:
I haven't been following this that closely. Did Pfizer ever specifically say their vaccine would prevent transmission, or was it just everyone else in power saying it?
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It might have been "the experts" and not Pfizer or Maderna but it was being said all over commercials on all media that it stopped the transmission so do your civic duty and go get the shot or your booster... of course I am in Kalifornia, they will lie to us and no one will fact check anything.

www.healthline.com

Vaccinated People Less Likely to Transmit COVID-19

Experts say new research on vaccinated people and COVID-19 transmission can help in establishing safety protocols.
www.healthline.com www.healthline.com
 
Another thing that pisses me off is how the medical industry was kept so ignorant about COVID. Not only was disinformation fed to doctors and nurses, a lot of them are still to this day ignorant of how to properly treat COVID.

And it's all because of power and politics.

When I was in the ICU fighting for my life, the personnel frequently asked me if I was going to get vaccinated now. To that I would ask if it was necessary since I would have immunity from my infection. And I was told time and again that it would only last for a short time and was not as good as the vaccine. I already knew from reading reports that what they were telling me was wrong. How sad that a dumb old HVAC guy was more up on the subject that the doctors and nurses were? All because they were being fed BS from a carefully controlled system while I was searching for information with an open mind.
 
No doubt there was and still is tons of misinformation about COVID. Even folks in the Trump administration and Trump himself spread misinformation. Granted that was earlier in the pandemic, but still. Government mandates were never a good idea. I got the Pfizer vaccine and one booster, but I won't be getting any more primarily because COVID is so much weaker now than it was back then. If a new variant comes around that is as deadly as the original, I may change my mind, but hopefully that won't happen.

Edit to add: It is clear the vaccines weren't as effective as the powers that be made them out to be, but it is also clear that they did provide huge benefits in lowering severity of COVID.
 
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No doubt there was and still is tons of misinformation about COVID. Even folks in the Trump administration and Trump himself spread misinformation. Granted that was earlier in the pandemic, but still. Government mandates were never a good idea. I got the Pfizer vaccine and one booster, but I won't be getting any more primarily because COVID is so much weaker now than it was back then. If a new variant comes around that is as deadly as the original, I may change my mind, but hopefully that won't happen.
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I agree, COVID is now basically the flu, not all that dangerous anymore.

And I think disinformation might be the proper term. I absolutely think much of it was intentional.

With Trump, I think it was more his inability to shut his mouth than an intent to spread misinformation. That, and the media seizing on everything he said and blowing it out of proportion. EX: The injecting bleach BS.
 
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The media is doing it's best to keep fear alive

fortune.com

BQ.1.1 is among the most immune-evasive COVID variants yet. It's coming in hot in the U.S.

BQ.1.1's extreme immune evasiveness "sets it up to be the principal driver of the next U.S. wave in the weeks ahead," a leading expert said Friday.
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Yep... not once did they tell how weak it is. Now it is just a sore throat and back ache for 3 to 4 days. No longer are people languishing in the hospital dying, or even going to the hospital. It is now a step above a cold... there are no overwhelmed hospitals.

The new variants are a few days of feeling crappy... the old time flu that went around each year killed more than we see now... but they don't tell you that in the article.

Here in Newsom's kingdom, they play scare commercials each break on TV, radio, every news media, and newspaper . Signs on the freeway that are to tell you if there is an accident up ahead, instead tell you to get the jab... Brainwashing the masses to think it is normal.
 
As cptlo said... I too was glad there was a vaccine early on. Specifically for my mom... Got her vaxed as soon as I could find an open slot.

Now we know it did not prevent getting it or spreading it (not truly a vaccine) ... just moderated severity if you caught it.

I was vaxed so that I would not give it to mom since I worked with the public through the Kalifornia Lock Downs. Over the years now, I see I was duped.

Today we know there is more danger in getting the jab, then actually getting sick with the mild variants circulating.- especially for children and men 18-39.

My 85 year old mom just had Covid. 2 bad days of sore throat and back ache.... It does not affect the lungs anymore it seems.


 
hotair.com

No! Boston University CREATES a new Covid strain that has an 80% kill rate

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cptlo said:
hotair.com

No! Boston University CREATES a new Covid strain that has an 80% kill rate

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All I know is a dear friend had a niece who grew up in Georgia. She was a smart girl. She was offered a spot at Boston University in her Junior year.

She came out of Boston University an absolute Marxists loon. She was raised in a conservative Atlanta, Georgia home with 2 parents. My friend no longer can even speak with her, the girl is such a nut case Marxists now. Growing up she and her Aunt had a very special bond. They both enjoyed traveling together, and spending most family holidays together. So sad.

The niece came out of the University a HUGE Bernie Sanders follower. Wanted him for President. She Majored in and graduated with a BA in Spanish... yeah, $60,000 a year to speak Spanish. She wanted Cuba to be unsanctioned for years and all the other socialists/progressive mess. She is the type who protests and all that crap.

She LOVED 0BaMa once he came on the scene. When 0BaMa opened up Cuba, she signed up that week to go to Cuba.

20 something years latter and I still think Boston University is evil... just saying...
 
Here is what so many people are afraid of... not one word in the daily new cycle.

Atlanta CDC meeting October 19, 2922.

Tomorrow the CDC will hold a vote to add covid vaccines to the childhood immunization schedule. This will enable more mandates for kids and could give the companies complete liability protection. The significance of this vote cannot be overstated.

If it passes, Children will be mandated to be Covid vaxed to go to public school. Vaxed against a virus that does not cause any health issue in healthy children. This is criminal!


link about October 19 vaccine meeting:

ACIP Meeting Agenda | CDC

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meeting agenda archive links to all past meeting agendas back to 2011.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

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