The Official Dallas Hwy Caucus and Primary Thread

cptlo said:
Agreed. He seems too shady to me.

Trump's team has already ruled him out as VP (granted, that could change). They wouldn't answer yes or no when asked if Haley is a possible VP pick which means that she is a possibility.
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I'd prefer neither. In my opinion DS is still the best choice but I have heard rumors that his choice is a woman (and not the hot one, MTG, or KL).
 
I just wanted to do a comparison between actual numbers and the last poll listed

Last poll for Iowa was Trafalgar Group

Trump 52.5
DeSantis 19
Haley 19

Actual numbers from last night

Trump 51.01
DeSantis 21.23
Haley 19.12


Pretty dang close! DeSantis slightly outperformed the polls, but the other two were almost dead on.
 
No matter what you think of Trump, his win last night is legit news. And MSNBC's refusal to air his speech is contradictory to journalistic principles. This is the kind of crap that is keeping our people stupid.

Rachel Maddow defends MSNBC's refusal to air Trump's Iowa victory speech: ‘Not out of spite’

www.foxnews.com

Rachel Maddow defends MSNBC's refusal to air Trump's Iowa victory speech: ‘Not out of spite’

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow said the network was forced to censor former President Trump's victory speech in Iowa because it couldn't air lies.
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Again, I think it's a bit early for DeSantis to drop out. But this does make me wonder if there's a "Plan B" in the works to build a Trmp/DeSantis ticket? And would that help or hurt Trump in the general election? DeSantis has a loyal following, but he also struggles with women and moderate.

Hmmmm

Kellyanne Conway says Ron DeSantis should 'graciously drop out' and help Trump after Iowa caucuses​


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Kellyanne Conway says Ron DeSantis should 'graciously drop out' and help Trump after Iowa caucuses

Former Senior Counselor to President Trump Kellyanne Conway reacts to Trump’s victory in the Iowa caucuses, urging Ron DeSantis to drop out of the race.
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Guard Dad said:
No matter what you think of Trump, his win last night is legit news. And MSNBC's refusal to air his speech is contradictory to journalistic principles. This is the kind of crap that is keeping our people stupid.

Rachel Maddow defends MSNBC's refusal to air Trump's Iowa victory speech: ‘Not out of spite’​

​

www.foxnews.com

Rachel Maddow defends MSNBC's refusal to air Trump's Iowa victory speech: ‘Not out of spite’

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow said the network was forced to censor former President Trump's victory speech in Iowa because it couldn't air lies.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

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Does anyone still watch her trash or her nerwork’s trash?
 
While I don't think DeSantis should drop out just yet, I suspect the next couple of weeks will do him him. Unless he pulls off a miracle in the next 2 primaries, his funding will likely dry up and he'll be forced to suspend. And those are coming quick.

www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com

The Complete 2024 Presidential Primary Schedule by State - Election Central

Primary voting and caucus schedule calendar for the 2024 presidential election
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I misspoke about Nevada...it's Haley who isn't on the ballot. But Trump is expected to win with about 70% of the vote.

Scroll down for the primary pie charts https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/republican-primary/2024/national
 
I'm leaning toward Gov Kristi Noem, but the dems will have a field day with a "Trump/Noem" ticket.
 
I changed the name of the thread and we can use it for the upcoming primaries.

I have my doubts Trump and Haley are actually tied, but I think she will give him a run.

Trump, Haley tied in New Hampshire poll

thehill.com

Trump, Haley tied in New Hampshire poll

GOP rivals former President Trump and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley are tied in New Hampshire, new polling shows, as the primary race heads into the Granite State. The survey fr…
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This helps explain why Haley is polling ahead of or close to Trump in NH:

In recent days, legacy media operatives have been suggesting Democrat-leaning unaffiliated voters could cast their ballots for the former South Carolina governor in the Granite State’s semi-closed primary on Jan. 23. The tactic reflects a strategy Haley herself bragged about when she told reporters last month: “If we get independents, if we get conservative Democrats, that’s what the Republican Party should pursue. Our goal is to get as many people in the tent as we can.”

In New Hampshire, “undeclared” voters are authorized to vote in any party’s state or presidential primary of their choosing, with state law requiring these individuals “to choose either a Democratic or Republican ballot when [they] go to vote.” When voting in a party’s primary, these unaffiliated voters are then registered to become a member of that party “unless [they] fill out a card or sign a list to return to undeclared status with the supervisors of the checklist before leaving the polling place.” A plurality of New Hampshire voters — 4 in 10 — are unaffiliated, with the New Hampshire Bulletin reporting in October that “[n]early 4,000 New Hampshire Democratic voters changed their party affiliation” to Republican or “undeclared” ahead of Tuesday’s primary

The state also permits same-day voter registration.

thefederalist.com

‘Undeclared’ Voters Can Easily Dilute Primaries Like New Hampshire’s

Democrat-leaning independents are attempting to rig New Hampshire's upcoming GOP presidential primary in Nikki Haley's favor.
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About who I will vote for in the primary

I have been truthful all along when I stated I had not decided. I flirted with the possibility of Haley because it looked for awhile that she was the most electable. She seems to be souring somewhat in that respect, and she's said some things I can't support. So she is likely out.

On issues alone, my beliefs aligned most closely with DeSantis. Even though I think his positions were a liability for him in some areas, I agreed with almost all of them.

For the last 3-4 weeks, I have probably been pretty evenly split between Trump and DeSantis. Frankly, I wanted to vote for him if I could convince myself it was a pragmatic thing to do.

But this question has been answered now, with DeSantis dropping out. Unless there's a knockout punch between now and our primary, I will vote for Trump.

Also, as much as I would love to have a viable 3rd party, it does not exist a this time. And no, I'm not going to debate that ad nauseam with some of you, voting for a candidate who cannot win is no different from staying home on election day. The net effect is exactly the same because there is no net effect. The next president will be either the Democrat or Republican nominee.
 
Guard Dad said:
About who I will vote for in the primary

I have been truthful all along when I stated I had not decided. I flirted with the possibility of Haley because it looked for awhile that she was the most electable. She seems to be souring somewhat in that respect, and she's said some things I can't support. So she is likely out.

On issues alone, my beliefs aligned most closely with DeSantis. Even though I think his positions were a liability for him in some areas, I agreed with almost all of them.

For the last 3-4 weeks, I have probably been pretty evenly split between Trump and DeSantis. Frankly, I wanted to vote for him if I could convince myself it was a pragmatic thing to do.

But this question has been answered now, with DeSantis dropping out. Unless there's a knockout punch between now and our primary, I will vote for Trump.

Also, as much as I would love to have a viable 3rd party, it does not exist a this time. And no, I'm not going to debate that ad nauseam with some of you, voting for a candidate who cannot win is no different from staying home on election day. The net effect is exactly the same because there is no net effect. The next president will be either the Democrat or Republican nominee.
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Voting for someone other than a candidate from the two major parties is not the same as staying home. People should vote for who they feel best represents them. If they voted for someone who has neither a D nor an R after their name, they did their civic duty; they exercised their right to vote and they should not be looked down upon.
 
Boss 302 said:
Voting for someone other than a candidate from the two major parties is not the same as staying home. People should vote for who they feel best represents them. If they voted for someone who has neither a D nor an R after their name, they did their civic duty; they exercised their right to vote and they should not be looked down upon.
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I'm not questioning civic duty, I'm questioning the real effect of that vote.

Please explain the difference in voting for a non-viable candidate vs staying at home, from a perspective of their real effects on the election.

. The end result of both are exactly the same. Neither viable candidate gets that vote, so it has zero effect
 
Guard Dad said:
I'm not questioning civic duty, I'm questioning the real effect of that vote.

Please explain the difference in voting for a non-viable candidate vs staying at home, from a perspective of their real effects on the election.

. The end result of both are exactly the same. Neither viable candidate gets that vote, so it has zero effect
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The first went and voted. The other stayed home. If you vote for Trump and he loses, is that comparable to having stayed at home?
 
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