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Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Let's not lose the fact that our God tells us to help the poor. Sometimes, we get so focused on our abilities to care for ourselves and our families, that we forget that there are people out there that do need help. (And I'm not referring to those who take advantage, but about hungry kids).

But God tells US to do it, not make it the responsibility of the government.

I know, but we fail miserably at it. And the government isn't doing a better job at it either.

We didn't during the Great Depression. Folks took care of each other. Our attitude has certainly changed. :pray

Did they? I really do not remember reading that people took care of one another. Of course it has been awhile and I remember reading about the New Deal, people malnourished, children out of schools, teens riding the rail and the dust bowl, etc, but not that. Do you have a reference I can read? (or point me in the right direction) I think reading up on that would be a good thing. (I will google, but I know that will bring up a billion websites on the Great Depression and not necessarily the issue I am looking to read.)

Well, I could suggest either of my Grandmothers, but they are no longer living. I've been told directly the stories of neighbors helping neighbors. Haven't you? My grandmother stated that "out on the mountain" they would have all starved if they didn't help each other during that time.

None of my family lived in this country and things were different (and still are) where they are from. I will see what I can find, because that really was interesting that you mentioned that and those were not the things covered in books.

As a nation I agree with LisaC that we do fail at giving and helping because so many are me, me, me and the fact we have been jaded by many. But I honestly do not know anyone personally that would not give up something to help a friend or neighbor in need. Now, if we all were hungry, do we give up what we have that could possibly feed our children to help the neighbor, I really do not know. I would never want to deny a person food, but between them and my child? :dunno That is what interested me about what you said. I read of so many malnourished people, dying because they became weak and diseased and yet not stories of those helping one another.
 
Looks like California is working on a plan to approve entitlements for both ends (literally). Instead of just funding the kid's lunches they'll possibly be funding the diapers too at an estimated price tag of over $100 million.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/05/diaper-duty-for-california-taxpayers/
 
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Let's not lose the fact that our God tells us to help the poor. Sometimes, we get so focused on our abilities to care for ourselves and our families, that we forget that there are people out there that do need help. (And I'm not referring to those who take advantage, but about hungry kids).

But God tells US to do it, not make it the responsibility of the government.

I know, but we fail miserably at it. And the government isn't doing a better job at it either.

We didn't during the Great Depression. Folks took care of each other. Our attitude has certainly changed. :pray

Did they? I really do not remember reading that people took care of one another. Of course it has been awhile and I remember reading about the New Deal, people malnourished, children out of schools, teens riding the rail and the dust bowl, etc, but not that. Do you have a reference I can read? (or point me in the right direction) I think reading up on that would be a good thing. (I will google, but I know that will bring up a billion websites on the Great Depression and not necessarily the issue I am looking to read.)

Well, I could suggest either of my Grandmothers, but they are no longer living. I've been told directly the stories of neighbors helping neighbors. Haven't you? My grandmother stated that "out on the mountain" they would have all starved if they didn't help each other during that time.

Daddy's family lived way out in the country on a self-sustaining farm near the Alabama line. Daddy told many stories of times when men would come through asking for work - any work - so they could feed their families. My grandparents would give them work if they had any (back-breaking farm work, and my grandfather was a blacksmith, so sometimes there was work there), and if not, would give them what food they could spare (they had 12 in the household to feed). He always said people were so grateful for every ounce of help they got.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Let's not lose the fact that our God tells us to help the poor. Sometimes, we get so focused on our abilities to care for ourselves and our families, that we forget that there are people out there that do need help. (And I'm not referring to those who take advantage, but about hungry kids).

But God tells US to do it, not make it the responsibility of the government.

I know, but we fail miserably at it. And the government isn't doing a better job at it either.

We didn't during the Great Depression. Folks took care of each other. Our attitude has certainly changed. :pray

Did they? I really do not remember reading that people took care of one another. Of course it has been awhile and I remember reading about the New Deal, people malnourished, children out of schools, teens riding the rail and the dust bowl, etc, but not that. Do you have a reference I can read? (or point me in the right direction) I think reading up on that would be a good thing. (I will google, but I know that will bring up a billion websites on the Great Depression and not necessarily the issue I am looking to read.)

Folks did take care of each other, however, rock soup is rock soup, whether it is for 4 or 14.

One of the few things that FDR did that I really like was the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps), this program paid men to work on projects, gave them 3 hots and a cot.
A lot of the lakes in GA and some of the areas that became state parks are due to the work by the CCC.
I am baffled as to why we can't require this type of work from our welfare people.
It would help them and help the country.
 
stradial said:
ShoeDiva said:
Did they? I really do not remember reading that people took care of one another. Of course it has been awhile and I remember reading about the New Deal, people malnourished, children out of schools, teens riding the rail and the dust bowl, etc, but not that. Do you have a reference I can read? (or point me in the right direction) I think reading up on that would be a good thing. (I will google, but I know that will bring up a billion websites on the Great Depression and not necessarily the issue I am looking to read.)

Folks did take care of each other, however, rock soup is rock soup, whether it is for 4 or 14.

One of the few things that FDR did that I really like was the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps), this program paid men to work on projects, gave them 3 hots and a cot.
A lot of the lakes in GA and some of the areas that became state parks are due to the work by the CCC.
I am baffled as to why we can't require this type of work from our welfare people.
It would help them and help the country.

Excellent question, and that is something I did not know. What a good program, now I wonder why we do not have that?
 
People don't want to have to work for their hand-outs and our government.courts won't force them. You can't even make prisoners work for their keep anymore.

And I'd rather give communities the chance to offer the help than force it fro the hands of the hard working through the government. They can't do anything right or for a reasonable price. The insanely huge amounts of money wasted at the government level could be so much better spent in so many other areas. Imagine how many people a church or other community group could provide for with an extra $50-80,000 a year. Now look at that number and realize that is one federal government employee, salary, benefits, etc. Just one.
 
stradial said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Let's not lose the fact that our God tells us to help the poor. Sometimes, we get so focused on our abilities to care for ourselves and our families, that we forget that there are people out there that do need help. (And I'm not referring to those who take advantage, but about hungry kids).

But God tells US to do it, not make it the responsibility of the government.

I know, but we fail miserably at it. And the government isn't doing a better job at it either.

We didn't during the Great Depression. Folks took care of each other. Our attitude has certainly changed. :pray

Did they? I really do not remember reading that people took care of one another. Of course it has been awhile and I remember reading about the New Deal, people malnourished, children out of schools, teens riding the rail and the dust bowl, etc, but not that. Do you have a reference I can read? (or point me in the right direction) I think reading up on that would be a good thing. (I will google, but I know that will bring up a billion websites on the Great Depression and not necessarily the issue I am looking to read.)

Folks did take care of each other, however, rock soup is rock soup, whether it is for 4 or 14.

One of the few things that FDR did that I really like was the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps), this program paid men to work on projects, gave them 3 hots and a cot.
A lot of the lakes in GA and some of the areas that became state parks are due to the work by the CCC.
I am baffled as to why we can't require this type of work from our welfare people.
It would help them and help the country.

My grandfather was in the CCC in Oregon (that's where they shipped him off to from Marietta). But, he seemed to love it from his stories. And he loved the area and always wanted to go back and visit.

My Dad's family lived "out on the mountain". They all shared what they had as best they could. They all had farms. My grandmother (and all the other women) canned food. It was a fairly remote area in Tennessee (it still is). Even today, most folks in that area travel more than an hour to Chattanooga or other areas for work.
 
Madea said:
stradial said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Let's not lose the fact that our God tells us to help the poor. Sometimes, we get so focused on our abilities to care for ourselves and our families, that we forget that there are people out there that do need help. (And I'm not referring to those who take advantage, but about hungry kids).

But God tells US to do it, not make it the responsibility of the government.

I know, but we fail miserably at it. And the government isn't doing a better job at it either.

We didn't during the Great Depression. Folks took care of each other. Our attitude has certainly changed. :pray

Did they? I really do not remember reading that people took care of one another. Of course it has been awhile and I remember reading about the New Deal, people malnourished, children out of schools, teens riding the rail and the dust bowl, etc, but not that. Do you have a reference I can read? (or point me in the right direction) I think reading up on that would be a good thing. (I will google, but I know that will bring up a billion websites on the Great Depression and not necessarily the issue I am looking to read.)

Folks did take care of each other, however, rock soup is rock soup, whether it is for 4 or 14.

One of the few things that FDR did that I really like was the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps), this program paid men to work on projects, gave them 3 hots and a cot.
A lot of the lakes in GA and some of the areas that became state parks are due to the work by the CCC.
I am baffled as to why we can't require this type of work from our welfare people.
It would help them and help the country.

My grandfather was in the CCC in Oregon (that's where they shipped him off to from Marietta). But, he seemed to love it from his stories. And he loved the area and always wanted to go back and visit.

My Dad's family lived "out on the mountain". They all shared what they had as best they could. They all had farms. My grandmother (and all the other women) canned food. It was a fairly remote area in Tennessee (it still is). Even today, most folks in that area travel more than an hour to Chattanooga or other areas for work.

:love

That sounds like my mom's side of the family. The only things they have to go to the store to buy are things they can't slaughter, or grow. I love their self sufficiency!!!
 
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