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Have you seen this story?:

When Andrea Scannell was nursing her 6-month-old daughter at Mount Logan Middle School in Logan, Utah, while family participated in the federal Summer Food Service (a program that provides free meals to children during summer) one of the last things she expected was to be told to be more discreet when nursing or she would need to leave the lunchroom.

Scannell told reporters at Fox13 News, that she was providing her own free meal for her baby when a cafeteria worker handed her a sealed envelope.

SEE ALSO: Moms Plan to Protest Instagram's Censorship of Breastfeeding Images

"One of the workers approached me with a sealed envelope and said, 'I highly encourage you to read this' and I said, 'Is this because of the breastfeeding?' and she said, 'Just read it, it's very tastefully written' and I was like, 'You know this is illegal right?' and she said, 'Just read it' and then she left," said Scannell.

The letter was reportedly from the school principal expressing that there were a few concerned patrons that had an issue with Scannell breastfeeding in public.

"While I understand the importance of a baby being breast fed, I would hope you would use discretion in exposure, while the baby is fed," the letter read. "I personally recognize the beauty of a mother providing for her child, but would also not want my child exposed to public exposure without the opportunity to discuss it with them."

Scannell, understandably, was stunned. "I was totally caught off guard," she said. "I hadn't seen anyone looking uncomfortable..."

Last Thursday, a dozen other mothers in the community gathered in the Mount Logan Middle School cafeteria to breastfeed — as a show of solidarity, as a protest to the principal's letter and as a way to increase awareness about the normal nature of breastfeeding.
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Why is that letter a problem? It was well-written and kind. And this IS taking place in a school. Why is it a problem to cover up when you are breastfeeding around other people's kids? Is anybody honestly going to tell me middle school-aged boys aren't a bit creepy and are going to avoid looking at free boob while they are getting their free food?

And why are schools giving free food in the summer? Bread lines? Why do we even need this to happen? We have food stamp programs. Are parents too effen lazy to actually go to the store for the free food and cook it themselves now?

Paulding did this program a few years ago. They shut it down because the people were too lazy to show up. haha Sad but true.

Dear Breastfeeding Moms:

You do your thing! I totally agree with what you are doing! But cover up, please. I don't want my kid to watch you. If you don't understand that, please give that baby back because you are going to miss some of the big parenting-common-sense moments. I know you are ready to militant about it, but just cover up a bit. It's that easy. Really.

Thanks.
 
Disclaimer:

I have been kicked off a few Facebook pages for posting my opinion on this. I maybe shouldn't have used the words "deflated" or "floppy" or "udder" or "cow," but I stand by my premise. My kids matter, too. I don't want them to have breastfeeding envy problems later down the road...

In all seriousness, if I am off-base and you are not the militant type, I would like to be corrected if my thinking about this is flawed. If you are a nudist, please don't tell me. Go fry some bacon and we will discuss that at another time.
 
I don't see what people's issue with breastfeeding is. It's a very natural thing, and a beautiful act between mother and child. People need to get over it.

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Our society is so screwed up, it's almost painful. Breastfeeding is obscene or indecent yet there is nothing wrong with violence, gore, foul language, etc. I just don't get it. Nobody thinks anything of an ad for the evening news that shows people being shot, blood all over the street yet heaven forbid we see a little side boob while jr. is having lunch. And is breastfeeding honestly showing us anything more than we can see on so many billboards and magazine covers that are in our faces every day? Ok, so for about a half second there is a tiny chance that a nipple might be visible. Oh dear gad, save us! ::)
 
My opinion.
I do not think women should be breastfeeding in public, period.
If they must, then they should find somewhere discrete and cover up.
That is my opinion, if you disagree, then we just disagree.
Masturbation is a natural act, so is defication, but I don't want to see anyone doing either in public.
Again, just my two cents.
 
I agree that breastfeeding is completely natural, but what's wrong with throwing a baby blanket over the kid and the boobie? I personally wouldn't want my tatas (any one of the three of them) on display were I nursing a baby. But I'm private like that...I'm not big on doing a lot of things in public that people apparently think is fine.

UM - I agree with you wholeheartedly. We have this completely backwards in this culture. I just personally would cover up.

CeeJay, re: free lunches - Paulding dropped them, but Floyd County is providing them, and the program is going gangbusters here. They are also now providing meals for kids in the city, as the city dropped the program. Any kid under 18 can eat for free. My sister works for the school system, and she relates that churches are getting meals for all their Bible school attendees, etc. I am completely appalled. I am appalled at the federal $$$ that is spent on this, and I am doubly appalled that churches whose attendees aren't poor by any stretch of the imagination are taking advantage of this program. Gripes my gut, it does.
 
I just got back from the beaches of Croatia where you can see all the free boob you want (or don't want) :cantbelievemyeyes . It's a perfectly normal and acceptable thing there. It was nice to see women being free and not giving a poop about what people thought. Seeing all this boob, really brought home to me how up-tight and easily offended the US truly is. I even had to shake myself of these thoughts at first because as a young girl, we are raised to be ashamed of our bodies. We are forced to cover up and if we don't we are made out to be sluts or desperate. And then children learn the same thing, the cycle continues.

What's seeing a little side boob going to hurt?

Now those Speedoes are another thing….. :laugh
 
justgettingby said:
I just got back from the beaches of Croatia where you can see all the free boob you want (or don't want) :cantbelievemyeyes . It's a perfectly normal and acceptable thing there. It was nice to see women being free and not giving a poop about what people thought. Seeing all this boob, really brought home to me how up-tight and easily offended the US truly is. I even had to shake myself of these thoughts at first because as a young girl, we are raised to be ashamed of our bodies. We are forced to cover up and if we don't we are made out to be sluts or desperate. And then children learn the same thing, the cycle continues.

What's seeing a little side boob going to hurt?

Now those Speedoes are another thing….. :laugh
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I agree, we're too uptight about the human body. And I'm not sure but what that actually causes some problems in our society.

Don't be dissin my thongs though. :rant
 
FREE THE TATAS!!! That's my motto. Not a big deal to me at all either way. If our kids saw it and asked about it we'd just explain that it's the natural way to feed babies then tell them to go play. They wouldn't have thought twice about it.
 
It's not even really about the boobies. It's that someone was asked nicely to cover up a bit they made a huge deal about it and said they were "bullied" while getting free foods. Follow the rules and expectations while you are getting free foods. If you want to hang it all out where you are paying, go right ahead. But she was asked nicely to consider other people and a herd then had to show up to show they could be completely rude, too.

I just think people are rude. I'm usually rude in writing but not in realtime. If someone asks me to do something that is reasonable and within my power, I do it. I will hand you a napkin or let you over when you need to merge or put up my teat if you are uncomfortable (and I don't even breast feed). No whining or anything. Because I'm grown. I don't decide the world needs to raise their children like I raise mine because other people have the right to make decisions for their own families. If they prefer their children not see your teats, I think you maybe should't display your teats. Save something for the big reveal. It doesn't bother me, but I know for a fact it DOES make some people uncomfortable. That should be enough to cause you to toss a blanket over the works. Just that. Courtesy.

Courtesy really isn't that big a favor to humanity. We used to expect it. Not now, I guess.
 
CeeJay said:
It's not even really about the boobies. It's that someone was asked nicely to cover up a bit they made a huge deal about it and said they were "bullied" while getting free foods. Follow the rules and expectations while you are getting free foods. If you want to hang it all out where you are paying, go right ahead. But she was asked nicely to consider other people and a herd then had to show up to show they could be completely rude, too.

I just think people are rude. I'm usually rude in writing but not in realtime. If someone asks me to do something that is reasonable and within my power, I do it. I will hand you a napkin or let you over when you need to merge or put up my teat if you are uncomfortable (and I don't even breast feed). No whining or anything. Because I'm grown. I don't decide the world needs to raise their children like I raise mine because other people have the right to make decisions for their own families. If they prefer their children not see your teats, I think you maybe should't display your teats. Save something for the big reveal. It doesn't bother me, but I know for a fact it DOES make some people uncomfortable. That should be enough to cause you to toss a blanket over the works. Just that. Courtesy.

Courtesy really isn't that big a favor to humanity. We used to expect it. Not now, I guess.
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We do have some common ground here, I agree with you completely that people are just rude.
 
mei lan said:
CeeJay, re: free lunches - Paulding dropped them, but Floyd County is providing them, and the program is going gangbusters here. They are also now providing meals for kids in the city, as the city dropped the program. Any kid under 18 can eat for free. My sister works for the school system, and she relates that churches are getting meals for all their Bible school attendees, etc. I am completely appalled. I am appalled at the federal $$$ that is spent on this, and I am doubly appalled that churches whose attendees aren't poor by any stretch of the imagination are taking advantage of this program. Gripes my gut, it does.
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I'm not sure I understand the funding behind this. School lunches are super expensive now, they have been raised every year for the last five years or so. And they suck more than ever. School nutrition programs are going in the red in school across America. Who is paying for this? Why are school lunch prices going up and up and we have extra free food for people?

And why is a woman even having more babies if she can't feed the ones she has (sorry, had to).

I think they should give school lunch away to everybody now that they made it worse than it was.

And why aren't people running from bread lines as fast as they can? It used to be a huge mark of shame for our nation. Now it just "is" for no good reason.

If they are going to do this, why can't homeless adults drop by to eat, too? They aren't hungry? They don't deserve food? They like boobies, too.

"Free benefits" cause more problems than they solve. Naked boobies usually do, too.

"We are too uptight about our bodies." Yes, I wish more people would be just a bit more uptight. Honestly, I don't want to see most people naked. Many of the naked countries have healthier lifestyles altogether than Americans. I think we should keep our clothes on. At least for now.
 
CeeJay said:
It's not even really about the boobies. It's that someone was asked nicely to cover up a bit they made a huge deal about it and said they were "bullied" while getting free foods. Follow the rules and expectations while you are getting free foods. If you want to hang it all out where you are paying, go right ahead. But she was asked nicely to consider other people and a herd then had to show up to show they could be completely rude, too.

I just think people are rude. I'm usually rude in writing but not in realtime. If someone asks me to do something that is reasonable and within my power, I do it. I will hand you a napkin or let you over when you need to merge or put up my teat if you are uncomfortable (and I don't even breast feed). No whining or anything. Because I'm grown. I don't decide the world needs to raise their children like I raise mine because other people have the right to make decisions for their own families. If they prefer their children not see your teats, I think you maybe should't display your teats. Save something for the big reveal. It doesn't bother me, but I know for a fact it DOES make some people uncomfortable. That should be enough to cause you to toss a blanket over the works. Just that. Courtesy.

Courtesy really isn't that big a favor to humanity. We used to expect it. Not now, I guess.
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I agree with you, especially the rude part.
I have given my opinion, which is keep your breast and buttocks and genitals covered in public.
I understand that other countries have different standards and most of these countries see women as 2nd class citizens, where the husband can have a mistress, but by golly the wife better not have a lover.
That's their morals, but that is not mine, nor what I wish for my country.
I wonder how many would like to have their 22 yr old daughter's breast on display for people to ogle?
The wife says this is the problem with men, that they are so over sexed, they can't separate the breast from what it was designed for, from a sexual thing.
Perhaps she is correct.
I can promise you that there are very few men that wouldn't see a good looking young gal breast feeding in public and then not tell a buddy, hey I saw this good looking girl's boob today.
Or if they were with a buddy and saw this, poke the buddy so that he could get a look.
You men tell me I am wrong.
Another thing, I was always told that breast feeding was a very personal and bonding moment for mother and child, if so, why put such a personal moment on display?
Again, just my opinion.
 
I do agree with the rude thing, too. It sounds as though the letter was written as delicately and with as much understanding as possible. It's not like somebody was rude or hateful about it. So many people now look for a reason to kick and scream and get their 15 minutes of fame over a perceived slight instead of trying to be reasonable. I will absolutely agree with that.
 
I know a few breastfeeding mothers. Most cover up just so people don't stare at their baby while they are eating. Some, though, are just looking for a fight about it. They are almost disappointed when nobody makes a big deal when they breastfeed openly and reveal more than they really need to. I think that's a bad way to approach the world. Because if you are looking for people to make you mad you won't have a problem finding them. You don't have to create hate in this world, we have plenty.

I could see where they would have a right to be mad if they were not allowed to feed their child. That is a freedom. But this just isn't on the level of whites in the front of the bus, blacks in the back. And we are so whiney now we don't seem to separate the small slights from the real injustices. We overdramatize the small stuff and just close our eyes to the big stuff.

People can't/won't find jobs and kids are eating crappy free food at schools in the summer. THAT should piss you off, not a polite letter.
 
I do agree, in general, that people could use a reasonable amount of modesty when brestfeeding. By the same token; those around a breatfeeding woman should realize that there is nothing sexual about it. It's a mother feeding her child as nature intended.


I do find it interesting hat it's typically women who have the biggest problem with other women breastfeeding in public. Weird!
 
I have zero problem with breastfeeding. My kids understand breastfeeding. Completely. However, I don't want them or me to see your breasts in public. Use a cover or a top designed for breastfeeding.

That's my right. :p

The free lunches are a whole nuther rant.

Tonight while googling to determine the price of my new high school student lunch I ran across an interesting statistic. 45% of the kids at my son's school receive free or reduced lunches. More surprising was that the national average is 42%.
 
CeeJay said:
mei lan said:
CeeJay, re: free lunches - Paulding dropped them, but Floyd County is providing them, and the program is going gangbusters here. They are also now providing meals for kids in the city, as the city dropped the program. Any kid under 18 can eat for free. My sister works for the school system, and she relates that churches are getting meals for all their Bible school attendees, etc. I am completely appalled. I am appalled at the federal $$$ that is spent on this, and I am doubly appalled that churches whose attendees aren't poor by any stretch of the imagination are taking advantage of this program. Gripes my gut, it does.
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I'm not sure I understand the funding behind this. School lunches are super expensive now, they have been raised every year for the last five years or so. And they suck more than ever. School nutrition programs are going in the red in school across America. Who is paying for this? Why are school lunch prices going up and up and we have extra free food for people?

And why is a woman even having more babies if she can't feed the ones she has (sorry, had to).

I think they should give school lunch away to everybody now that they made it worse than it was.

And why aren't people running from bread lines as fast as they can? It used to be a huge mark of shame for our nation. Now it just "is" for no good reason.

If they are going to do this, why can't homeless adults drop by to eat, too? They aren't hungry? They don't deserve food? They like boobies, too.

"Free benefits" cause more problems than they solve. Naked boobies usually do, too.

"We are too uptight about our bodies." Yes, I wish more people would be just a bit more uptight. Honestly, I don't want to see most people naked. Many of the naked countries have healthier lifestyles altogether than Americans. I think we should keep our clothes on. At least for now.
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Read this book :


http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Moochers-Americas-Addiction-Something/dp/1250022320/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407148873&sr=8-1&keywords=a+nation+of+moochers


:whistle
 
Madea said:
The free lunches are a whole nuther rant.

Tonight while googling to determine the price of my new high school student lunch I ran across an interesting statistic. 45% of the kids at my son's school receive free or reduced lunches. More surprising was that the national average is 42%.
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Oh, it's a boomin' bidness. CeeJay asked where the money is coming from - why, the federal gubment, natch!
 
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