Hankster said:I'm shooting for the death penalty for this idiot. Hang'em!!!
Oh now, what the teacher did wasn't that bad.
Hankster said:I'm shooting for the death penalty for this idiot. Hang'em!!!
ShoeDiva said:deewee said:I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace.ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
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honeybunny said:ShoeDiva said:deewee said:I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace.ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
Most.
Everyone.
mei lan said:I have no opinion on the topic of origin other than my usual general statement that if I had a kid in public school, I'm quite sure I would be in jail at some point.
ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
deewee said:I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace.
honeybunny said:ShoeDiva said:deewee said:I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace.ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
Most.
Everyone.
Madea said:ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
I think several pages back quite a few folks were saying he simply should have gone to his parents and let them handle it.
Hankster said:honeybunny said:ShoeDiva said:deewee said:I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace.ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
Most.
Everyone.
A few.
Hankster said:Hankster said:honeybunny said:ShoeDiva said:deewee said:I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace.ShoeDiva said:Madea said:Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.
I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.
We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.
Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
Most.
Everyone.
A few.
I thought we were playing word association.
deewee said:This thread is funny. Do y'all realize we're arguing about arguing?
I'm Floored said:deewee said:This thread is funny. Do y'all realize we're arguing about arguing?
That happens a lot around here.
ShoeDiva said:I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.
mei lan said:ShoeDiva said:I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.
Me, too. (I especially like it when I can make my point with a slam dunk IN YO FACE and make y'all's noses bleed. Ahem...sorry...I was channeling my brother there. Carry on. )
mei lan said:ShoeDiva said:I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.
Me, too. (I especially like it when I can make my point with a slam dunk IN YO FACE and make y'all's noses bleed. Ahem...sorry...I was channeling my brother there. Carry on. )
The topic at hand had indeed disintegrated into arguing about arguing.ShoeDiva said:I'm Floored said:deewee said:This thread is funny. Do y'all realize we're arguing about arguing?
That happens a lot around here.
I do not think this thread is funny. I did not think it was about arguing, but a child being disrespectful. :dunno (We might be disagreeing on that fact, but that is what we do on message boards. )
I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.