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ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace. :)

Most.

Everyone.
 
honeybunny said:
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace. :)

Most.



Everyone.

A few.
 
mei lan said:
I have no opinion on the topic of origin other than my usual general statement that if I had a kid in public school, I'm quite sure I would be in jail at some point.

There was one teacher last year who made me consider that jail would definitely be worth it. :BH In the end, I simply forwarded her nasty email to the school principal. However, due to her privacy rights, I have no idea what action he took. Although he did call me and profusely apologize for her behavior.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.

I think several pages back quite a few folks were saying he simply should have gone to his parents and let them handle it.
 
deewee said:
I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace. :)

Thank you. :-* Normally, that's not true (apparently). :dunno
 
I have seen too many teachers from Georgia type on message boards that they are the experts, they have the degrees, they know what is best for our children so the parents just need to STHU. True story.

Now when Georgia Schools are at the TOP of the list, then I might agree with them. Unfortunately we have a long, long, long way to go.

There are some awesome teachers, everywhere but there are some that shouldn't be teaching. I do think the teacher handled it well by staying calm during the whole incident. My kid would be grounded for the rest of his life if he talked to an adult like that, but I do believe he may have said something that needed to be said.
 
According to one report, the teacher quickly asked someone to watch her class while
she went down to the principal's office to smooth things over with the angry student...
 
honeybunny said:
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace. :)

Most.

Everyone.

No. I have stated numerous times, you can go back and look, that this is being discussed many places and there are some that stand by what he did was right.
Have you stated that he was out of line and there is a time and place for this and this was not the time? I would have sworn, and maybe wrongly, that you thought this okay by your posts.
 
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.

I think several pages back quite a few folks were saying he simply should have gone to his parents and let them handle it.

Many of us stated that either he should have gone to someone or his parents.
 
Hankster said:
honeybunny said:
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace. :)

Most.



Everyone.

A few.

I thought we were playing word association.
 
Hankster said:
Hankster said:
honeybunny said:
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Well, we don't know what prior steps had been taken. And, I can tell you from my own experiences in dealing with a school system who is more concerned about "privacy" than anything else, I couldn't possibly tell you if any actions have been taken to improve teachers or resolve student issues. Those private meetings simply don't always work. Even repeated meetings on the issues don't necessarily improve situations.

I have tried my best to teach my children respect for authority without crushing their spirit. Because I believe we have to leave some of the "spark" so that we don't raise generations of "followers". Would I be angry with my child if s/he had an angry outburst toward a teacher? Absolutely! And, regardless of any school punishment or not, there would be punishment at home. But, I've also had to work with my son on standing up (respectfully, of course) for himself in some situations with teachers at school. I would prefer to raise a leader than a follower.

We are all human, and youth are more likely to have these type of emotional outbursts. Should future schools know that he has a tendency toward these emotional outbursts? No, because I suspect over time he will mature and overcome that tendency.

Respectfully says it all. No one is saying to hush, or not speak up, it is how it was done. I also have agreed this is a teen and yes it happens (outburst) but to agree to his method yet speak (in general not you) of how people are disrespectful just seems hypocritical to me.
I think most everyone agrees that the rant was out of line, though his concerns are valid. Madea has a way of saying what others are trying to say with more eloquence and grace. :)

Most.



Everyone.

A few.

I thought we were playing word association.

:spitchick
 
I'm Floored said:
deewee said:
This thread is funny. Do y'all realize we're arguing about arguing?

That happens a lot around here.

I do not think this thread is funny. I did not think it was about arguing, but a child being disrespectful. :dunno (We might be disagreeing on that fact, but that is what we do on message boards. :D )


I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.
 
ShoeDiva said:
I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.

Me, too. (I especially like it when I can make my point with a slam dunk IN YO FACE and make y'all's noses bleed. :D :D :D Ahem...sorry...I was channeling my brother there. Carry on. :D )
 
mei lan said:
ShoeDiva said:
I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.

Me, too. (I especially like it when I can make my point with a slam dunk IN YO FACE and make y'all's noses bleed. :D :D :D Ahem...sorry...I was channeling my brother there. Carry on. :D )


:spitchick :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh (I am picturing you saying this in my head... :laugh :laugh :laugh )
 
mei lan said:
ShoeDiva said:
I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.

Me, too. (I especially like it when I can make my point with a slam dunk IN YO FACE and make y'all's noses bleed. :D :D :D Ahem...sorry...I was channeling my brother there. Carry on. :D )

:laugh :laugh :laugh
 
ShoeDiva said:
I'm Floored said:
deewee said:
This thread is funny. Do y'all realize we're arguing about arguing?

That happens a lot around here.

I do not think this thread is funny. I did not think it was about arguing, but a child being disrespectful. :dunno (We might be disagreeing on that fact, but that is what we do on message boards. :D )


I think when we have good conversations with different opinions it is interesting here.
The topic at hand had indeed disintegrated into arguing about arguing. ;)
 
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