I\'m voting for Romney/Ryan

lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

^^^^ this is true!! :CLAP
 
I do not remember exactly when he said it, but didn't 0bummer say something about setting up a civilian militia or something like that?
 
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

He is actually correct on some things though, including the fact that Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP. What he says and his ideals, well, they have nothing to do with the actual truth, there are FEMA camps, the nearest one to us is one east of Columbus next to the state line.
 
ShoeDiva said:
:hiya I just have to ask. How old are you? This is not in anyway to say anything good or bad, but you sound like many of my sons friends so I just wanted to ask.

Hey now! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You missed me!!! (hush from the peanut gallery :)) )
 
LibertarianLegend said:
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

He is actually correct on some things though, including the fact that Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP. What he says and his ideals, well, they have nothing to do with the actual truth, there are FEMA camps, the nearest one to us is one east of Columbus next to the state line.

Dude, we live in the South, near the Gulf and the Ocean..............Katrina was a mess, I think we really need to be prepared for another one. You know, just in case. ~~shrug~~
 
naturegirl said:
LibertarianLegend said:
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

He is actually correct on some things though, including the fact that Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP. What he says and his ideals, well, they have nothing to do with the actual truth, there are FEMA camps, the nearest one to us is one east of Columbus next to the state line.

Dude, we live in the South, near the Gulf and the Ocean..............Katrina was a mess, I think we really need to be prepared for another one. You know, just in case. ~~shrug~~

We ran a hotel in 2007/2008 on the North Shore of New Orleans.

It was interesting how many people all those years later were still living in their FEMA trailer.

These people used to have jobs, and lives, and houses, and a place in their community. It was just difficult for them to get a house rebuilt. They had lost everything.

Some were too old to build back… they started, but there just was not enough time to build and work…

Many left to live with family in other states for upwards of three months... coming back when water, electricity, and a way to support themselves was available. But they did not have a house yet built back to a stage they could live in.

Many were just using a free trailer they did not have to pay money monthly?

The lawlessness and crime was huge, even with the National Guard still watching over some areas until the end of 2008. Many police abandoned their job once KATRINA hit. Even in 2008, police would not come to a crime if you dialed 911. On the news at night was a report on all the people who had been killed that day. I stopped watching

It is interesting to see what happens in a community when a disaster hits… some dig in and come out better… some will never be the same… some use the system without ever trying to move beyond government help.

Not sure camps after a disaster would be much better… but it could not be much worse. Me, I would choose to go live with family somewhere else!
 
Far West said:
naturegirl said:
LibertarianLegend said:
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

He is actually correct on some things though, including the fact that Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP. What he says and his ideals, well, they have nothing to do with the actual truth, there are FEMA camps, the nearest one to us is one east of Columbus next to the state line.

Dude, we live in the South, near the Gulf and the Ocean..............Katrina was a mess, I think we really need to be prepared for another one. You know, just in case. ~~shrug~~

We ran a hotel in 2007/2008 on the North Shore of New Orleans.

It was interesting how many people all those years later were still living in their FEMA trailer.

These people used to have jobs, and lives, and houses, and a place in their community. It was just difficult for them to get a house rebuilt. They had lost everything.

Some were too old to build back… they started, but there just was not enough time to build and work…

Many left to live with family in other states for upwards of three months... coming back when water, electricity, and a way to support themselves was available. But they did not have a house yet built back to a stage they could live in.

Many were just using a free trailer they did not have to pay money monthly?

The lawlessness and crime was huge, even with the National Guard still watching over some areas until the end of 2008. Many police abandoned their job once KATRINA hit. Even in 2008, police would not come to a crime if you dialed 911. On the news at night was a report on all the people who had been killed that day. I stopped watching

It is interesting to see what happens in a community when a disaster hits… some dig in and come out better… some will never be the same… some use the system without ever trying to move beyond government help.

Not sure camps after a disaster would be much better… but it could not be much worse. Me, I would choose to go live with family somewhere else!

I still can not wrap my brain around someone choosing to live below sea level right next to the sea.
It's hard enough understanding living there before a hurricane wipes everything out, to me, trying to rebuild below sea level again is just crazy.
 
dapandlap said:
Far West said:
naturegirl said:
LibertarianLegend said:
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

He is actually correct on some things though, including the fact that Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP. What he says and his ideals, well, they have nothing to do with the actual truth, there are FEMA camps, the nearest one to us is one east of Columbus next to the state line.

Dude, we live in the South, near the Gulf and the Ocean..............Katrina was a mess, I think we really need to be prepared for another one. You know, just in case. ~~shrug~~

We ran a hotel in 2007/2008 on the North Shore of New Orleans.

It was interesting how many people all those years later were still living in their FEMA trailer.

These people used to have jobs, and lives, and houses, and a place in their community. It was just difficult for them to get a house rebuilt. They had lost everything.

Some were too old to build back… they started, but there just was not enough time to build and work…

Many left to live with family in other states for upwards of three months... coming back when water, electricity, and a way to support themselves was available. But they did not have a house yet built back to a stage they could live in.

Many were just using a free trailer they did not have to pay money monthly?

The lawlessness and crime was huge, even with the National Guard still watching over some areas until the end of 2008. Many police abandoned their job once KATRINA hit. Even in 2008, police would not come to a crime if you dialed 911. On the news at night was a report on all the people who had been killed that day. I stopped watching

It is interesting to see what happens in a community when a disaster hits… some dig in and come out better… some will never be the same… some use the system without ever trying to move beyond government help.

Not sure camps after a disaster would be much better… but it could not be much worse. Me, I would choose to go live with family somewhere else!

I still can not wrap my brain around someone choosing to live below sea level right next to the sea.
It's hard enough understanding living there before a hurricane wipes everything out, to me, trying to rebuild below sea level again is just crazy.
Doing it with your and my money is even crazier.
 
dapandlap said:
Far West said:
naturegirl said:
LibertarianLegend said:
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

He is actually correct on some things though, including the fact that Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP. What he says and his ideals, well, they have nothing to do with the actual truth, there are FEMA camps, the nearest one to us is one east of Columbus next to the state line.

Dude, we live in the South, near the Gulf and the Ocean..............Katrina was a mess, I think we really need to be prepared for another one. You know, just in case. ~~shrug~~

We ran a hotel in 2007/2008 on the North Shore of New Orleans.

It was interesting how many people all those years later were still living in their FEMA trailer.

These people used to have jobs, and lives, and houses, and a place in their community. It was just difficult for them to get a house rebuilt. They had lost everything.

Some were too old to build back… they started, but there just was not enough time to build and work…

Many left to live with family in other states for upwards of three months... coming back when water, electricity, and a way to support themselves was available. But they did not have a house yet built back to a stage they could live in.

Many were just using a free trailer they did not have to pay money monthly?

The lawlessness and crime was huge, even with the National Guard still watching over some areas until the end of 2008. Many police abandoned their job once KATRINA hit. Even in 2008, police would not come to a crime if you dialed 911. On the news at night was a report on all the people who had been killed that day. I stopped watching

It is interesting to see what happens in a community when a disaster hits… some dig in and come out better… some will never be the same… some use the system without ever trying to move beyond government help.

Not sure camps after a disaster would be much better… but it could not be much worse. Me, I would choose to go live with family somewhere else!

I still can not wrap my brain around someone choosing to live below sea level right next to the sea.
It's hard enough understanding living there before a hurricane wipes everything out, to me, trying to rebuild below sea level again is just crazy.

Yeah…when we were looking for a house on the North Shore… almost all neighborhoods were flat – at sea level…and they were built on slab.

One of the building inspectors who oversaw and signed off on permits in New Orleans stayed at our hotel. I had several conversations with him over the months.

He said they had not made any laws that said the houses had to be build up a certain amount above sea level … but he would personally never live in a house built on slab anywhere in lower Louisiana.

In the end my husband had a job offer that brought us back to Paulding … I was so relieved.

The house we were living in was built 8 feet above the ground on telephone poles – I still worried when it rained, that the river it sat next to might flood the banks…There is nowhere for water to go!

At least 6 times the Red Cross sent people to our hotel, after a prolong rainstorm, because their subdivision flooded… I could not see buying a house built on slab! I can’t imagine with a hurricane, high tides, and 36 hours of hard steady rain! :girlsaysno
 
Grey Colson said:
mei lan said:
Grey Colson said:
Most of the polsters (sp) are in the tank for P-bo, but I like what Rush was saying today. These polsters have their reputations to worry about. They'll hold out hope that the polls will discourage conservative voters, but closer to the end they'll have to supply more accurate results. They may love P-Bo, but they'll protect their reputations above everything else.

I've read the same thing...that they settle down as the election gets closer.

Me personally, I'm crawling into a hole until after the election. And based on that, I'll decide if I'm going to live here or move to Uruguay.

Does the weather stay nice there all year? We might go with you and start "UruguayHwy.com" 8)

See Far West's post below re: weather. The opposite seasons thing would prolly freak me right out. Otherwise, it appears to be a lovely country. Relatively free, and nice people. I would also consider the Isle of Man (10% income tax, way fewer laws than elsewhere) or the Faroe Islands or New Zealand, but any of those (including Uruguay) could be overrun by evil as well as anywhere else. If I could just find a self-sustaining remote island somewhere...
 
On a brighter note, there were a lot of Romney/Ryan signs floating around the fair tonight.
 
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

Did you know that Dick Cheney is a reptilian shape shifter ? ? ? :faint
 
honeybunny said:
lotstodo said:
Alex Jones would do better to find one conspiracy theory and stick to it, but they all seem to run together in that vacuum of a head of his. He's a moron of the caliber of Madcow and Moore, one Xanax away from a rubber room retirement.

Did you know that Dick Cheney is a reptilian shape shifter ? ? ? :faint

Mr. Big Time. My hero.
 
On the issue of polls, take them with a grain of salt.
The only polls that matter are those of "likely voters".
Polls that seek opinions of "adults" skew heavily towards dems, "registered voters" somewhat less so, but still favors dems.
Next, a consistent problem is the nature of the sample being taken. Most polls will try to duplicate what they think is going to be the break down of voters. In 2008, dem voters outnumbered republicans by a significant margin, and pollsters often use that ratio as their sample. Except 2008 isn't goiing to happen again and since then we had BO as president and the election of 2010.
As a result, a poll that relies on 2008 data will skew unreasonably for dems. Nevertheless many polling organizations chose to use that data.

There have been a number of polls that used a sample size of dems that was 10% greater than republicans and still gave BO only a 6 point lead. That isn't good news for BO, because there is no reason to expect that dems will turnout in greater numbers, especially by 10%.

It is my understanding that Rasmussen tends to be a little more accurate in their sample breakdown.
Rasmussen shows BO with a 2% lead.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

This isn't good news, but it isn't as bad as the MSM is trying to report.
 
I can't say I'm for name-calling, but this post from the Admin from Ron Paul supporters for Gary Johnson page on Facebook is somewhat true:
"Dear Rommunist Trolls - I swear you people are some of the most pathetically dense people I've yet to hear from. ONCE AGAIN because some how this never seems to get through your thick skulls:
We happen to immensely dislike Obama's policies ourselves and desperately want to see him replaced with someone who will in fact follow the US Constitution and work to restore us to a limited government that protects people's rights instead of trying to take them away. HOWEVER - the GOP nominee in one Mitt Romney is an utter p.o.s. that both his record as Governor and his statements during this campaign show that in fact he is for the exact same crap that Obama supports.
i.e: For every piece of civil liberty killing legislation that Obama has signed (i.e. NDAA, PATRIOT Act renewal, HR347) Romney has stated that he supports these as well. For every supposed budget cut Romney has advocated (and he actually hasn't really detailed any!) he also advocates increas
ed spending for other programs (i.e. more military spending, building a border fence) so the deficits and debt accumulation will still go on. Both Romney and Obama have supported the bailouts, TARP and funneling more of our cash to the "too big to fail" - and both have close connections to the same exact big banks. Both Romney and Obama support continuing the failed "war on drugs". Both Romney and Obama support continued, unneeded and costly occupations and nation building that does nothing for our own nation's security but instead works to bankrupt us. And with Romney you even have the greater potential for an economy killing tariff war to be started with China, and a greater potential for a disastrous war with Iran to be started than we already do with O
bama. And possibly the worst thing is with Romney is that Republican Congress-Critters will no longer be occasional nay-sayers to the spend-aholic or big government programs and will go along with it now that it's coming from "their team" (i.e. like Medicare Part D and "No Child Left Behind" being enacted under GWB).
To me neither Romney or Obama deserves anyone's votes. Instead we'll support someone who is in fact aligned with our principles -and show at the end of this election that there is a growing and vocal percentage of "independent" voters (that the D's and R's actually need to win elections) that are NOT going to put up with the shennanigans of the status quo "politics as usual." By maximizing the percentage that votes their principles instead of their fears we can make the status quo politicos get nervous to the point that they actually modify their heinous behavior towards slightly better - while building up momentum and an organization unequivocally for liberty to the point where it can WIN elections in the near future."
 
LibertarianLegend said:
I can't say I'm for name-calling, but this post from the Admin from Ron Paul supporters for Gary Johnson page on Facebook is somewhat true:
"Dear Rommunist Trolls - I swear you people are some of the most pathetically dense people I've yet to hear from. ONCE AGAIN because some how this never seems to get through your thick skulls:
We happen to immensely dislike Obama's policies ourselves and desperately want to see him replaced with someone who will in fact follow the US Constitution and work to restore us to a limited government that protects people's rights instead of trying to take them away. HOWEVER - the GOP nominee in one Mitt Romney is an utter p.o.s. that both his record as Governor and his statements during this campaign show that in fact he is for the exact same crap that Obama supports.
i.e: For every piece of civil liberty killing legislation that Obama has signed (i.e. NDAA, PATRIOT Act renewal, HR347) Romney has stated that he supports these as well. For every supposed budget cut Romney has advocated (and he actually hasn't really detailed any!) he also advocates increas
ed spending for other programs (i.e. more military spending, building a border fence) so the deficits and debt accumulation will still go on. Both Romney and Obama have supported the bailouts, TARP and funneling more of our cash to the "too big to fail" - and both have close connections to the same exact big banks. Both Romney and Obama support continuing the failed "war on drugs". Both Romney and Obama support continued, unneeded and costly occupations and nation building that does nothing for our own nation's security but instead works to bankrupt us. And with Romney you even have the greater potential for an economy killing tariff war to be started with China, and a greater potential for a disastrous war with Iran to be started than we already do with O
bama. And possibly the worst thing is with Romney is that Republican Congress-Critters will no longer be occasional nay-sayers to the spend-aholic or big government programs and will go along with it now that it's coming from "their team" (i.e. like Medicare Part D and "No Child Left Behind" being enacted under GWB).
To me neither Romney or Obama deserves anyone's votes. Instead we'll support someone who is in fact aligned with our principles -and show at the end of this election that there is a growing and vocal percentage of "independent" voters (that the D's and R's actually need to win elections) that are NOT going to put up with the shennanigans of the status quo "politics as usual." By maximizing the percentage that votes their principles instead of their fears we can make the status quo politicos get nervous to the point that they actually modify their heinous behavior towards slightly better - while building up momentum and an organization unequivocally for liberty to the point where it can WIN elections in the near future."

I appreciate your sincerity LL, but Johnson doesn't have a chance in this race. Work on the primaries next time, until they can prove something then you're voting for Obama.
 
naturegirl said:
LibertarianLegend said:
I can't say I'm for name-calling, but this post from the Admin from Ron Paul supporters for Gary Johnson page on Facebook is somewhat true:
"Dear Rommunist Trolls - I swear you people are some of the most pathetically dense people I've yet to hear from. ONCE AGAIN because some how this never seems to get through your thick skulls:
We happen to immensely dislike Obama's policies ourselves and desperately want to see him replaced with someone who will in fact follow the US Constitution and work to restore us to a limited government that protects people's rights instead of trying to take them away. HOWEVER - the GOP nominee in one Mitt Romney is an utter p.o.s. that both his record as Governor and his statements during this campaign show that in fact he is for the exact same crap that Obama supports.
i.e: For every piece of civil liberty killing legislation that Obama has signed (i.e. NDAA, PATRIOT Act renewal, HR347) Romney has stated that he supports these as well. For every supposed budget cut Romney has advocated (and he actually hasn't really detailed any!) he also advocates increas
ed spending for other programs (i.e. more military spending, building a border fence) so the deficits and debt accumulation will still go on. Both Romney and Obama have supported the bailouts, TARP and funneling more of our cash to the "too big to fail" - and both have close connections to the same exact big banks. Both Romney and Obama support continuing the failed "war on drugs". Both Romney and Obama support continued, unneeded and costly occupations and nation building that does nothing for our own nation's security but instead works to bankrupt us. And with Romney you even have the greater potential for an economy killing tariff war to be started with China, and a greater potential for a disastrous war with Iran to be started than we already do with O
bama. And possibly the worst thing is with Romney is that Republican Congress-Critters will no longer be occasional nay-sayers to the spend-aholic or big government programs and will go along with it now that it's coming from "their team" (i.e. like Medicare Part D and "No Child Left Behind" being enacted under GWB).
To me neither Romney or Obama deserves anyone's votes. Instead we'll support someone who is in fact aligned with our principles -and show at the end of this election that there is a growing and vocal percentage of "independent" voters (that the D's and R's actually need to win elections) that are NOT going to put up with the shennanigans of the status quo "politics as usual." By maximizing the percentage that votes their principles instead of their fears we can make the status quo politicos get nervous to the point that they actually modify their heinous behavior towards slightly better - while building up momentum and an organization unequivocally for liberty to the point where it can WIN elections in the near future."

I appreciate your sincerity LL, but Johnson doesn't have a chance in this race. Work on the primaries next time, until they can prove something then you're voting for Obama.
I would hafta agree.
LL where were you a few months ago, or even a year ago?
I do not recall seeing any post concerning such a big Libertarian party push until just a couple of days ago.
At this point in this election cycle the old cliche comes to mind "too little too late"
 
I actually discovered this site not too long ago actually, I didn't actually start posting until a few days ago when I got the signs and bumper stickers. It actually is the other way around, if you vote for Obama, you're voting for a black little less income Romney, and if you vote Romney, you vote for a much richer Obama. How is this you might ask? THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME PLATFORM!
 
LibertarianLegend said:
I actually discovered this site not too long ago actually, I didn't actually start posting until a few days ago when I got the signs and bumper stickers. It actually is the other way around, if you vote for Obama, you're voting for a black little less income Romney, and if you vote Romney, you vote for a much richer Obama. How is this you might ask? THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME PLATFORM!
At this point in the game "so to speak" there are only TWO potential winners, Gov. Johnson is not one of the two.
That being said if you vote for Johnson you ARE voting for 0bummer.
Do you want four more years of the liberal left socialists leading our country?
 
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