Blazing Saddles
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Making someone eat something on their plate never hurt anyone.
Hashbrown Casserole
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naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
I might have cooked a casserole and made them eat it, I don't remember that ever happening. I've never had picky eaters. When I first got married to Don, he wanted everything fried, my kids loved pasta. I'd cook his fried stuff and always have some side for the kids. Didn't take long before he adapted to pasta and all my kids like fried okra, squash and zucchini.
No one was allowed to sit at the table and say "Yuk". If you don't like it, just don't say anything.
We ate dinner at the kitchen table almost every night when the kids were growing up, still do most times. ;D
No one was allowed to sit at the table and say "Yuk". If you don't like it, just don't say anything.
We ate dinner at the kitchen table almost every night when the kids were growing up, still do most times. ;D
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
ShoeDiva said:
I'm perplexed, how would it hurt someone??
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
I can't believe you are perplexed and do not understand how it could be harmful. :dunno There are numerous reasons. Here are a few. I did not have time to read them. I just googled. (I also do not know one doctor that would tell a mom to tell a child either eat what I give you or don't eat. Most when presented with concerns, such as, "all my child will eat is pbj's" they assure them it is fine and that the child will develop a taste for other foods later. One bite rules, are acceptable and encouraged. Force and developing a clean plate rule is not. Aversion to food issues and obesity are just some things that doctors (medical and mental) believe can develop.)naturegirl said:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090306103649.htm
http://www.itsnotaboutnutrition.com/home/2011/5/17/the-perils-of-plate-cleaning.html
http://www.eatingdisorders411.com/food-addiction.html
http://familydoctor.org/familydoctor/en/kids/eating-nutrition/healthy-eating/when-your-toddler-doesnt-want-to-eat.html
http://www.centerforparentingeducation.org/programs_articlestext_CHOP.html
http://www.yalemedicalgroup.org/stw/Page.asp?PageID=STW000084
http://mothering.com/all-things-mothering/mothering/health/why-controlling-what-our-children-eat-does-more-harm-than-good
http://www.pediatricservices.com/parents/pc-23.htm
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
ShoeDiva said:
I never said I forced my child to eat anything, I said we have a two bite rule. I would never starve them or force them to eat a whole plate of food they don't like, my ex on the other hand made them wear the food they didn't eat. That's one reason why we are no longer married.
I think you're reading way too much into this. Fixing a separate meal for a picky eater is not a good idea, either. It can lead to eating disorders.
http://www.parentstoolshop.com/HTML/STARTIP_PICKYEATERS.HTM
http://www.raisehealthyeaters.com/2010/07/10-pitfalls-to-feeding-picky-eaters/
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/childrens-health/HQ01107/NSECTIONGROUP=2 - see item #10
http://www.livescience.com/10301-adult-picky-eaters-recognized-disorder.html - picky eaters have been recognized as having a disorder
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Foxmeister
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Your first two links are stories about how kids forced to clean their plates MAY develop an overeating problem.
The second one is about how rewarding your kids with food could cause a food addiction.
The next one is about not to worry about your toddler not eating enough; feed your toddler three meals a day and two snacks and how it's normal for toddlers to be picky eaters.
Next is helping your child to develop good eating habits.
The next one deals with kids and vegetables. It suggest to let your kids choose what vegetables to eat.
The next one deals with what constitutes healthy foods.
The last one is called, "What Parents Need to Know About Children's Nutrition Now." It says if your kid doesn't like vegetables, substitute with fruit." It also said, "All children have an internal food regulator that tells them what and when to eat. Much of our appetite is actually genetically programmed and operates on a subconscious level."
The second one is about how rewarding your kids with food could cause a food addiction.
The next one is about not to worry about your toddler not eating enough; feed your toddler three meals a day and two snacks and how it's normal for toddlers to be picky eaters.
Next is helping your child to develop good eating habits.
The next one deals with kids and vegetables. It suggest to let your kids choose what vegetables to eat.
The next one deals with what constitutes healthy foods.
The last one is called, "What Parents Need to Know About Children's Nutrition Now." It says if your kid doesn't like vegetables, substitute with fruit." It also said, "All children have an internal food regulator that tells them what and when to eat. Much of our appetite is actually genetically programmed and operates on a subconscious level."
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
NG I agreed with what you did numerous times. You initially agreed with Fox about they eat or they don't yet you did not practice that. I agreed with how you handled it. I do not believe you were perplexed with what I posted to BS's cliche' response. Fox also came back and stated his kids never went to bed hungry, again something I agree with.
Fox..yes, I posted the first few things that came up on Google when NG posted that she did not understand that food could be harmful. I am glad you had time to read all the links and give us a breakdown. I did not. I did notice all of them issues about food posted, which is all that I was looking for at the time.
So again, a flip comment about food never hurting anyone is not true.
Fox..yes, I posted the first few things that came up on Google when NG posted that she did not understand that food could be harmful. I am glad you had time to read all the links and give us a breakdown. I did not. I did notice all of them issues about food posted, which is all that I was looking for at the time.
So again, a flip comment about food never hurting anyone is not true.
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
ShoeDiva said:
Again, I think you are misinterpreting what Fox, BS and me are saying. I didn't see one post that said they forced anyone to eat, I see they are saying you eat what is served or don't eat, it's your choice.
Skipping one meal by their choosing never hurt anyone. Fixing separate meals for picky eaters can indeed lead to eating disorders, forcing kids to "clean" their plates can lead to eating disorders. No where did I see anyone say they would force a kid to clean their plate. I did see where they agreed fixing a separate meal was not a good idea.
I also saw where deewee didn't force her boys to eat the casserole.
honeybunny
Pursuit Driver
Instead of the one bite rule... we employ the two cookie rule.
Baby Bunny went thru a phase where she flat out just refused to eat any vegetables,
almost overnight she went from eating anything to spitting out every single tiny bite.
After some research I was satisfied that it was just a normal phase
and kept offering her veggies at every meal with no pressure to eat.
When she continued to refuse all veggies and then began refusing fruit,
I did become concerned about vitamin deficiency and low fiber intake...
With a background in behavioral science and out of guilty Mom desperation,
I started the two cookie rule as a form of positive refinforcement aka bribery.
She is allowed 2 small frosted animal cookies each evening, but only if she eats ALL of her veggies at lunch and dinner.
Works like a charm... she now devours all of the veggies on her plate first thing because she really wants those 2 cookies.
The two small cookies are only about 20 some extra odd calories per day,
so I figure that is good trade off in exchange for veggie vitamin goodness.
Baby Bunny went thru a phase where she flat out just refused to eat any vegetables,
almost overnight she went from eating anything to spitting out every single tiny bite.
After some research I was satisfied that it was just a normal phase
and kept offering her veggies at every meal with no pressure to eat.
When she continued to refuse all veggies and then began refusing fruit,
I did become concerned about vitamin deficiency and low fiber intake...
With a background in behavioral science and out of guilty Mom desperation,
I started the two cookie rule as a form of positive refinforcement aka bribery.
She is allowed 2 small frosted animal cookies each evening, but only if she eats ALL of her veggies at lunch and dinner.
Works like a charm... she now devours all of the veggies on her plate first thing because she really wants those 2 cookies.
The two small cookies are only about 20 some extra odd calories per day,
so I figure that is good trade off in exchange for veggie vitamin goodness.
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
honeybunny said:
You are a great mommy!! :love :hug
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
I never said anything about DeeWee.naturegirl said:ShoeDiva said:
Again, I think you are misinterpreting what Fox, BS and me are saying. I didn't see one post that said they forced anyone to eat, I see they are saying you eat what is served or don't eat, it's your choice.
Skipping one meal by their choosing never hurt anyone. Fixing separate meals for picky eaters can indeed lead to eating disorders, forcing kids to "clean" their plates can lead to eating disorders. No where did I see anyone say they would force a kid to clean their plate. I did see where they agreed fixing a separate meal was not a good idea.
I also saw where deewee didn't force her boys to eat the casserole.
Whatever to the rest.
honeybunny
Pursuit Driver
naturegirl said:
I still ain't making no seperate kid meals,
eat what is served or you will be hungry.
I guarantee they will only choose hunger a couple of times
before they get the message that Mommy is not a servant.
:waggingfinger
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Foxmeister
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naturegirl said:
She did misinterpret what we were saying. We gave the kids a choice; eat what's on the table or not. I didn't give them the option of being able to go into the kitchen and make anything they wanted because they didn't like what was being served. My house wasn't a restaurant where everyone got to choose their own dinner to eat. My kids always chose to eat what was being served whether they liked it or not.
I remember when my daughter was around 10-years old, her friend was over. My daughter asked if she could stay for dinner and we said she could. When my daughter asked if she would like to stay for dinner, her friend asked what we were having. When my daughter told her, the little girl came back with something like, "I'll go home. How can you stand to eat that?" When we sat down for dinner, my daughter all of a sudden didn't want to eat what we were having because she now she didn't like it because of her friend didn't like it. I reminded her she never had a problem eating it before and that if she didn't eat, there wouldn't be anything for her to eat later. She ate it. After she finished eating, she said, "That was good." Kids!
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Foxmeister
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honeybunny said:
Exactly.
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
honeybunny said:
Yep, kids will eat when they are hungry and they will eat what's on the table. Making an issue about food in general can lead to eating disorders. Eat it or don't, I'm not cooking separate meals.
Blazing Saddles
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naturegirl said:
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