DOJ Tells Employees to Verbally Affirm Homosexuality....

J-man

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...or risk losing your job. Below are a few lines from the article and the link if you wish to read more:

Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality.

“Don’t judge or remain silent,” the brochure read. “Silence will be interpreted as disapproval.”

They were also told to post “DOJ Pride” stickers in their office to indicate “that it is a safe place.”

“This administration is pushing the most radical, immoral agenda on the American people,” Staver said. “Christians are not merely required to ‘shut up,’ but now they are being coerced to embrace immorality that goes against their sincerely held religious beliefs.”

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/doj-tells-employees-to-verbally-affirm-homosexuality.html
 
http://www.lc.org/media/9980/images/pr_doj_lgbt_directive_052113.pdf

It was sent out to mostly managers and I believe there is some good advice in the brochure for those that might be uncomfortable or not know what to say. I did not see a directive that you would be fired for anything. Yes, you can place a sticker in your office or speak talk positively about your LGBT employee. It is basically a what to say and what not to say to keep a pleasant work environment, especially with more people being open about it today. :dunno
 
Just as with The Scouts....the DOJ has no business recognizing or endorsing sexuality. Stay out of it. Tell the employees to keep their sexuality to themselves. Problem solved.

This has gotten beyond ridiculous.
 
ShoeDiva said:
http://www.lc.org/media/9980/images/pr_doj_lgbt_directive_052113.pdf

It was sent out to mostly managers and I believe there is some good advice in the brochure for those that might be uncomfortable or not know what to say. I did not see a directive that you would be fired for anything. Yes, you can place a sticker in your office or speak talk positively about your LGBT employee. It is basically a what to say and what not to say to keep a pleasant work environment, especially with more people being open about it today. :dunno

"Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality." --- What part do you not see? If you have experience with how working for the gubbermint operates, you don't disregard directives and maintain the normal career path advancement for your position.
 
J-man said:
ShoeDiva said:
http://www.lc.org/media/9980/images/pr_doj_lgbt_directive_052113.pdf

It was sent out to mostly managers and I believe there is some good advice in the brochure for those that might be uncomfortable or not know what to say. I did not see a directive that you would be fired for anything. Yes, you can place a sticker in your office or speak talk positively about your LGBT employee. It is basically a what to say and what not to say to keep a pleasant work environment, especially with more people being open about it today. :dunno

"Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality." --- What part do you not see? If you have experience with how working for the gubbermint operates, you don't disregard directives and maintain the normal career path advancement for your position.

Exactly what part? I believe you and the writer of the article are taking what is being said out of context or reading more into what it is saying. JMO It looks to be general advisement, for managers to create an inclusive environment. A general, this is how it might be taken, so say this instead. People skills for those that might not be familiar with working with people of a different sexual orientation. Yes, sex should not be in the workplace, but it gave a good example of just general talk that instead of scoffing at you engage the person (movie with partner) or if the employee comes out to you first before the rest of the staff knows.
 
ShoeDiva said:
J-man said:
ShoeDiva said:
http://www.lc.org/media/9980/images/pr_doj_lgbt_directive_052113.pdf

It was sent out to mostly managers and I believe there is some good advice in the brochure for those that might be uncomfortable or not know what to say. I did not see a directive that you would be fired for anything. Yes, you can place a sticker in your office or speak talk positively about your LGBT employee. It is basically a what to say and what not to say to keep a pleasant work environment, especially with more people being open about it today. :dunno

"Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality." --- What part do you not see? If you have experience with how working for the gubbermint operates, you don't disregard directives and maintain the normal career path advancement for your position.

Exactly what part? I believe you and the writer of the article are taking what is being said out of context or reading more into what it is saying. JMO It looks to be general advisement, for managers to create an inclusive environment. A general, this is how it might be taken, so say this instead. People skills for those that might not be familiar with working with people of a different sexual orientation. Yes, sex should not be in the workplace, but it gave a good example of just general talk that instead of scoffing at you engage the person (movie with partner) or if the employee comes out to you first before the rest of the staff knows.


If these same managers followed these policies with non-LGBT enployees, they'd be disciplined for sexual harassment. But because LGBT is the new "cause", it falls under a different and double standard.

This simply has no place in the DOJ.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
J-man said:
ShoeDiva said:
http://www.lc.org/media/9980/images/pr_doj_lgbt_directive_052113.pdf

It was sent out to mostly managers and I believe there is some good advice in the brochure for those that might be uncomfortable or not know what to say. I did not see a directive that you would be fired for anything. Yes, you can place a sticker in your office or speak talk positively about your LGBT employee. It is basically a what to say and what not to say to keep a pleasant work environment, especially with more people being open about it today. :dunno

"Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality." --- What part do you not see? If you have experience with how working for the gubbermint operates, you don't disregard directives and maintain the normal career path advancement for your position.

Exactly what part? I believe you and the writer of the article are taking what is being said out of context or reading more into what it is saying. JMO It looks to be general advisement, for managers to create an inclusive environment. A general, this is how it might be taken, so say this instead. People skills for those that might not be familiar with working with people of a different sexual orientation. Yes, sex should not be in the workplace, but it gave a good example of just general talk that instead of scoffing at you engage the person (movie with partner) or if the employee comes out to you first before the rest of the staff knows.


If these same managers followed these policies with non-LGBT enployees, they'd be disciplined for sexual harassment. But because LGBT is the new "cause", it falls under a different and double standard.

This simply has no place in the DOJ.

Could you give me an example of what would be considered sexual harassment if it were heterosexuals? I am not sure of what you mean. Thanks.
 
The actual brochure (not the editorial) is general guidance for dealing with sexuality. None of it is requirement.

It is also true that silence in the face of "I'm gay" can be taken as offense. Imagine going to work and announcing, "I just got engaged" only to be greeted by silence. It does not require approval, just acknowledgement.

Many of us (including me) are uncomfortable with homosexuality. The brochure gave advice on how to handle it. Noting the source of the brochure, it obviously leans heavily away from those of us with a more conservative view on the issue would like. I also think it notes some things that will happen in the workplace.

Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.
 
Waski_the_Squirrel said:
The actual brochure (not the editorial) is general guidance for dealing with sexuality. None of it is requirement.

It is also true that silence in the face of "I'm gay" can be taken as offense. Imagine going to work and announcing, "I just got engaged" only to be greeted by silence. It does not require approval, just acknowledgement.

Many of us (including me) are uncomfortable with homosexuality. The brochure gave advice on how to handle it. Noting the source of the brochure, it obviously leans heavily away from those of us with a more conservative view on the issue would like. I also think it notes some things that will happen in the workplace.

Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.

:thumbsup
 
Waski_the_Squirrel said:
Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.

But the employer shouldn't encourage it.
 
Guard Dad said:
Waski_the_Squirrel said:
Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.

But the employer shouldn't encourage it.

So no family pictures ... no discussion of personal activities ... no personal commentary of any kind can take place in the workplace, is that the answer? I'm not loving everything in the brochure but I get the idea behind it. When everyone else is talking about boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, why shouldn't the others be comfortable discussing that aspect of their lives as well? All or nothing. It's not like they are saying you have to encourage the discussion of the latest gay escapades or the newest trick in bed or anything like that.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
J-man said:
ShoeDiva said:
http://www.lc.org/media/9980/images/pr_doj_lgbt_directive_052113.pdf

It was sent out to mostly managers and I believe there is some good advice in the brochure for those that might be uncomfortable or not know what to say. I did not see a directive that you would be fired for anything. Yes, you can place a sticker in your office or speak talk positively about your LGBT employee. It is basically a what to say and what not to say to keep a pleasant work environment, especially with more people being open about it today. :dunno

"Among the directives in the brochure is an order for workers to vocally affirm homosexuality." --- What part do you not see? If you have experience with how working for the gubbermint operates, you don't disregard directives and maintain the normal career path advancement for your position.

Exactly what part? I believe you and the writer of the article are taking what is being said out of context or reading more into what it is saying. JMO It looks to be general advisement, for managers to create an inclusive environment. A general, this is how it might be taken, so say this instead. People skills for those that might not be familiar with working with people of a different sexual orientation. Yes, sex should not be in the workplace, but it gave a good example of just general talk that instead of scoffing at you engage the person (movie with partner) or if the employee comes out to you first before the rest of the staff knows.


If these same managers followed these policies with non-LGBT enployees, they'd be disciplined for sexual harassment. But because LGBT is the new "cause", it falls under a different and double standard.

This simply has no place in the DOJ.

Could you give me an example of what would be considered sexual harassment if it were heterosexuals? I am not sure of what you mean. Thanks.

I wish I could copy and paste from the document, but it won't allow me.

EX: The memo recommends talking with the LGBT employee about their sexuality and assuring them that the DOJ is a LGBT-safe place. Letting them know that they will be treated with fairness and respect by "coming out". Talk openly with employees about your LGBT friends. Display a "DOJ Pride" sticker in your office. Encouraging the managers themselves to "come out" to communicate to the employees that the office is a LGBT Safe environment.

I could go on, but hopefully you get the point. Non-LGBT banter of this type will get you fired in the corporate world.
 
unionmom said:
Guard Dad said:
Waski_the_Squirrel said:
Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.

But the employer shouldn't encourage it.

So no family pictures ... no discussion of personal activities ... no personal commentary of any kind can take place in the workplace, is that the answer? I'm not loving everything in the brochure but I get the idea behind it. When everyone else is talking about boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, why shouldn't the others be comfortable discussing that aspect of their lives as well? All or nothing. It's not like they are saying you have to encourage the discussion of the latest gay escapades or the newest trick in bed or anything like that.

Thank you. You saved me the typing. :))
 
unionmom said:
Guard Dad said:
Waski_the_Squirrel said:
Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.

But the employer shouldn't encourage it.

So no family pictures ... no discussion of personal activities ... no personal commentary of any kind can take place in the workplace, is that the answer? I'm not loving everything in the brochure but I get the idea behind it. When everyone else is talking about boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, why shouldn't the others be comfortable discussing that aspect of their lives as well? All or nothing. It's not like they are saying you have to encourage the discussion of the latest gay escapades or the newest trick in bed or anything like that.

They are singling out LGBT and encouraging management to develop LGBT relations.
 
unionmom said:
Guard Dad said:
Waski_the_Squirrel said:
Sex may have no place in the workplace, but shows up there all the time: marital announcements, pictures of family, talking about weekend plans, and the like.

But the employer shouldn't encourage it.

So no family pictures ... no discussion of personal activities ... no personal commentary of any kind can take place in the workplace, is that the answer? I'm not loving everything in the brochure but I get the idea behind it. When everyone else is talking about boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, why shouldn't the others be comfortable discussing that aspect of their lives as well? All or nothing. It's not like they are saying you have to encourage the discussion of the latest gay escapades or the newest trick in bed or anything like that.

BUT those conversations don't have to be coached. People share as much or as little as they choose. Everyone will find the people they can talk with about personal items. I've worked with people who are gay. It works out fine. One man, we found out when his picture appeared on the front page of the AJC at a gay march in Atlanta.
 
They are encouraging an environment where these folks are helped to feel more comfortable participating in ordinary office discussion just as their straight counterparts. Some of the wording could us some help and I think it is a shame that the government tends to let the extreme factor write things like this for any given situation instead of letting the moderates do it.
 
unionmom said:
They are encouraging an environment where these folks are helped to feel more comfortable participating in ordinary office discussion just as their straight counterparts. Some of the wording could us some help and I think it is a shame that the government tends to let the extreme factor write things like this for any given situation instead of letting the moderates do it.

No, they are encouraging an environment where LGBTs are encouraged to "come out" and proclaim their sexuality.

Look...I'm all for an environment where they can be equals and not harassed for their sexuality. And t do that there should be anti-harassment rules. But they are going too far when they instruct management to cultivate persons of a certain sexuality and encourage them to come out and have discussions about it. And that is exactly what the memo directs management to do.
 
The government needs to encourage less water cooler talk and more work. Lord knows they aren't working very hard as it is.
 
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