Another Diva that loves the gays!!

We went to see JOan Rivers a couple of weeks ago. ASO has really good beer like Sweetwater 420. We got there early and I had sipped two or three 420s. I was relaxing and enjoying the place and I noticed a couple of guys walking in wearing bermuda shorts., And in a minute two more and then two more. I turned to tell my wife "Man, a lot of guys are coming together to see Joan" and then I had that Edith Bunker moment. OOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh AAAAAAAAAAAAAAchie.

I had no idea that gays loved Joan Rivers. To be honest, they were a blast. Great show.
 
Blazing Saddles said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I made a post earlier and apparently didn't hit the post button.

I think the media is making more to do of his statement than it really is. All he is really saying is the "Love the sinner-Hate the sin" philosophy that many of us here have mentioned time and again. He wasn't endorsing homosexuality in any way.

His honeymoon will likely be short lived. As soon as he goes into sanctity of life mode the media will have him for lunch.

But I believe him.

(not directed at you..just saying that dumb phrase (anyone know where that came from? I never heard it until the last 10 years) does not make it true. You do not love a person in one breath and bash them in another in my opinion.)

Can we not express disapproval for what (just for example) an adulterer does, but still love the person?

Do you use that phrase in that situation?

I can understand the fact that is someone makes a mistake...say son was late for curfew and did not call. I would be furious, hate the fact he was irresponsible, but obviously still love him.
I can understand the fact that some got drunk, had a one night stand, you hate the fact they did it, but you could still love them as a person.
I do not understand how you could love someone that you believe sins daily and with your (general) belief lives their life in sin.

That is why I do not like the phrase. I can see in instances that it would apply, but not how it is thrown around to explain how many feel about gay men and woman.

I just believe (and it could be my upbringing :)) ) that the Pope is not judging, whereas many time (it comes across) as others are and just toss out a cliche' to make things all better.

(Again, not saying you, just in general..so do you know where that phrase came from?)

That phrase isn't found in scripture. The intent is understandable and admirable but those two things aren't qualifications for biblical doctrine. Here's an article I've posted before about that concept that may clear it up a bit. I believe the notion of this phrase is a clear indication of "New Age" doctrine infiltrating our scripture disciplines because it sounds pretty good but a deeper understanding may shed new light on it. I used to 'accept' this thought but was always disturbed by it for some reason. I hope this helps or at best stirs believers to study the concept behind the words. The phrase itself is from Ghandi and his teachings, not Christ.

http://www.rickthomas.net/2012/09/17/hate-the-sin-love-the-sinner/

I don't like the phrase at all. (Now, I'll go read your article.)
 
H8BNL8 said:
We went to see JOan Rivers a couple of weeks ago. ASO has really good beer like Sweetwater 420. We got there early and I had sipped two or three 420s. I was relaxing and enjoying the place and I noticed a couple of guys walking in wearing bermuda shorts., And in a minute two more and then two more. I turned to tell my wife "Man, a lot of guys are coming together to see Joan" and then I had that Edith Bunker moment. OOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh AAAAAAAAAAAAAAchie.

I had no idea that gays loved Joan Rivers. To be honest, they were a blast. Great show.

Similar to my learning that gay men loved Cher. ;D
 
LisaC said:
Gay people should be integrated into society instead of ostracized, Pope Francis told journalists after his weeklong trip to Brazil. Answering a question about reports of homosexuals in the clergy, the pope answered, "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/07/29/206622682/pope-francis-discusses-gay-catholics-who-am-i-to-judge?ft=1&f=1016

I love the new Pope!! :cheer1 :cheer1 :cheer1

I love this new Pope too. It's about time we heard acceptance from the Vatican. :ditto
 
Rocky Mountain Girl said:
LisaC said:
Gay people should be integrated into society instead of ostracized, Pope Francis told journalists after his weeklong trip to Brazil. Answering a question about reports of homosexuals in the clergy, the pope answered, "If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?"
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/07/29/206622682/pope-francis-discusses-gay-catholics-who-am-i-to-judge?ft=1&f=1016

I love the new Pope!! :cheer1 :cheer1 :cheer1

I love this new Pope too. It's about time we heard acceptance from the Vatican. :ditto

Make up your mind, one minute your not Catholic, the next you are.
:seesaw
 
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