When Election Fraud is important and when it's not

honeybunny said:
Common sense tells me this is a non issue ginned up by the media.

My focus is on policy.

;)
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But that's not true. Trump made this into an issue with his stupid unproven statements. He's the President of the United States...if any President made statements like he did, it would be big news. And now he's making even more crazy statements by saying that none of the 3-5 million illegal votes (assuming his beliefs are correct) were for him. He's just making sh*t up.

I get that people are happy about the policy things he is doing (I am too) but that doesn't mean he should get a pass for doing stupid stuff unless partisanship is truly more important to some.
 
"Dear Lord...whatever you do, please don't let Trump spell potato wrong. Everyone will say he's stupid and national security will be at stake!"

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I don't care if he wears a thong and screams expletives all day. I'm concerned with the bottom line. I'm happy to see globalism and socialism in dying days. I want a future full of opportunities for prosperity for my children. And I want them to be able to sleep at night without the fear of terrorism.

We're way past social graces being a priority people. We were teetering on the edge of the abyss. And we're not out of the woods yet. But we can be if we'll pull together and support this new direction.
 
Grey Colson said:
I like to look at it more this way. My wife of 32 years has gotten under my skin a few times as I have hers, but she's just too wonderful and gorgeous to throw out, especially over trivial issues....such as this.
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The woman obviously has a serious vision problem. 'Cause you be ugly. :)
 
Engine Joe said:
I don't care if he wears a thong and screams expletives all day. I'm concerned with the bottom line. I'm happy to see globalism and socialism in dying days. I want a future full of opportunities for prosperity for my children. And I want them to be able to sleep at night without the fear of terrorism.

We're way past social graces being a priority people. We were teetering on the edge of the abyss. And we're not out of the woods yet. But we can be if we'll pull together and support this new direction.
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Oh, no....let's not encourage Guard Dad's thong wearing ways...:eek:
 
Grey Colson said:
Unlike liberals, Trump can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. He has accomplished more in his first few days than any president I can recall in my lifetime. Talking about egos, the egos that have been bruised in this election are those who were never Trumpters and are now grasping at any straw available to recover any credibility they lost.

If the press says he shouldn't talk about crowd size, here's a suggestion, STOP asking and commenting about it. If people think he shouldn't comment about the popular vote number, then STOP running their mouth about it and how the electoral college is not fair. As my lovely and gracious wife often says, if you don't like my answer, then don't ask the question.
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A president should be above bullspit like this. When asked petty BS questions by the press, he should simply refuse to give them the soundbite they want and say that the election is over, he won, and he is now concerned with running the country and getting us back on track. The idiot is playing right into their hands because they know that they can tweek him. He's a baby.
 
cptlo306 said:
News media: Megyn Kelly :D

Seriously, yes, they all say stupid and unproven stuff. Did you give Obama grief for saying stupid unproven stuff? If so, do you have the same disdain for Trump when he does it or is it OK now?

And now that Trump is going to launch a "major investigation" into illegal votes, how much money will that cost that could be better spent elsewhere or, better yet, returned to taxpayers?
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So far from my research, every thing Trump has stated that was considered "unproven statements" turned out to be true.

It is fact that CA gives driver's license to illegals. It is also fact that CA will allow anyone to vote as long as they have a D/L. So it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together on that one. Add in how many stories over the years of DEM poll workers being arrested for voter fraud, the problem run much deeper then anyone will ever admit.
 
Winchester said:
So far from my research, every thing Trump has stated that was considered "unproven statements" turned out to be true.

It is fact that CA gives driver's license to illegals. It is also fact that CA will allow anyone to vote as long as they have a D/L. So it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together on that one. Add in how many stories over the years of DEM poll workers being arrested for voter fraud, the problem run much deeper then anyone will ever admit.
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Where is the proof that 3 to 5 millions votes were illegal? Where is proof that none of those votes were for him?
 
BTW, 99% of the people who move between states are registered to vote in two states. Did you tell your past board of elections when you moved? If not, you were registered in two states until your name was purged two to five years later.
 
cptlo306 said:
But that's not true. Trump made this into an issue with his stupid unproven statements. He's the President of the United States...if any President made statements like he did, it would be big news. And now he's making even more crazy statements by saying that none of the 3-5 million illegal votes (assuming his beliefs are correct) were for him. He's just making sh*t up.

I get that people are happy about the policy things he is doing (I am too) but that doesn't mean he should get a pass for doing stupid stuff unless partisanship is truly more important to some.
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I love Ace - it's like I wrote this ... without knowing - So many relevant points!!!!! ...Honeybunny posted:
How Losing My Political Values Helped Me Gain My Freedom :

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=368084

"There's a frustrating game that the left plays with conservatives. It's an Alinksy tactic called, "Make them live up to their values."

But something strange happened. Not only did Donald Trump not care about attacks on his character, neither did anyone else. We saw this new paradigm assert itself over and over during the primary throughout repeated media predictions that this time he's gone to far and he's cooked.

This same indifference that helped Trump carry the election has continued into the early days of his administration. With it comes a refreshingly freeing state of mind. Personally, I don't feel in any way responsible for Trump, nor do I feel compelled to defend him against attack.

"I have no personal investment in Donald Trump. He is a tool to punish the left and roll back their ill-gotten gains, no more and no less. If he succeeds even partially in those two things, then I'll consider his election a win."

Further, I no longer have any investment in any particular political values, save one: The rules created by the left will be applied to the left as equally and punitively as they have applied them to the right. And when they beg for mercy, I'll begin to reconsider. Or maybe not. Because ef these people."

"This new philosophy has freed me of more emotional angst that I can describe. Literally nothing the left says or does matters to me anymore. I don't care about their tantrums. I don't care about their accusations. I don't care if they say Trump is lying. I don't care if Trump is lying." Amen!!!!

I love the honesty that is posted on ACE
 
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cptlo306 said:
Alternative title for Ace's post: Hypocrisy Knows No Bounds
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Until the Saul Alinski shit stops, there is no reason to care about the progressives, what they say, what they accuse. To them the ends justify the means. Everything they do is a lie. Watch how obozo comes back. The money from the progressives to pay people to protest is just starting.

What you "care about" is used against you. Stop caring... it takes away the left's power.

The last sentence from the ACE article:
"What I will not do is let them play my values against me ever again. I don't need to prove that I'm better than them. I already know it."
 
Gosh it sure is refreshing to watch a President actually get things done, not JUST talk trash. Whether or not what Trump is accomplishing is positive is irrelevant to me, at least it's something. And yes, he's talking trash but not JUST talking trash. It has been a wonderful week.
 
It's not like we didn't know that Trump would not be a typical politician. Anyone who thought otherwise was fooling themselves.

Those who ended up voting for him in the primaries because they wanted "not your typical politician" are getting what they wanted.

Those who ended up voting for him in the general election because he wasn't a Clinton, are also getting what they wanted, he's as far from a Clinton as you can get.
 
The Sound Guy said:
It's not like we didn't know that Trump would not be a typical politician. Anyone who thought otherwise was fooling themselves.

Those who ended up voting for him in the primaries because they wanted "not your typical politician" are getting what they wanted.

Those who ended up voting for him in the general election because he wasn't a Clinton, are also getting what they wanted, he's as far from a Clinton as you can get.
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And I thank God every day for that one fact.
 
lotstodo said:
BTW, 99% of the people who move between states are registered to vote in two states. Did you tell your past board of elections when you moved? If not, you were registered in two states until your name was purged two to five years later.
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As long as you do not vote in both states there is nothing illegal about it.
 
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