The Official Dallas Hwy 2022 Mid-term Election Thread

Far West said:
Enough jokes. In all seriousness, congrats to John Fetterman.
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This pretty much proves what I said before, the left could run a roadkill possum that is bloated with maggots and beat a republican! They know what the humble masses want for Christmas, and they promise them just that. Republicans need to get in touch with middle and lower income voters and offer them something more than a little hope for the future.
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Boss 302 said:
I understand why. The Trump picks overall didn't fair well and here's the reason why. They didn't do what Kemp and DeSantis did, which was to focus on the issues: inflation, economy, gas prices, crime, and border security. Trump only endorsed those who said Trump got screwed in 2020. The rallies he appeared to "support" his candidates were forty-five minutes of how he got screwed, and then the last two minutes talking about the candidate he was there to support. It was really easy for the news media and the liberal opponents to keep the Trump-endorsed candidates talking about how Trump got screwed.

Before Trump began endorsing candidates, polls showed the GOP was going to crush the Dems. That is until Trump started endorsing. McConnell was correct after the primaries when he said there would be no red wave because Trump's candidates were not quality candidates. How much money did Trump donate to his chosen candidates? Zero.
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The media is bending over backwards to make this about Trump, but I really don't think it is. With the possible exception of Herschel, Trump really didn't pick these candidates, he just endorsed some of them. The only voters that was a deal breaker to was voters who would not have voted for the candidates anyway.

Herschel is a flawed candidate, so is Oz.

And I still think we're underestimating the effect of mail-in ballots. The Democrats were very effective in using them to bring in tons more voters, and some of them are voters who are being told who to vote for. And that's assuming no fraud, which I'm not convinced there wasn't.
 
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Another thing about this and the last election...voters are more polarized by party that they've probably ever been. Meaning...Democrats are going to vote for Democrats and Republicans will vote for Republicans no matter what. I suspect true independents are fewer than they used to be.

This is not a good place for our country to be, because it means a whole lot of voters minds are wholly owned by the parties and these people can't think for themselves.

How do we change that? Without Ronald Reagan, anyway.
 
Guard Dad said:
Another thing about this and the last election...voters are more polarized by party that they've probably ever been. Meaning...Democrats are going to vote for Democrats and Republicans will vote for Republicans no matter what. I suspect true independents are fewer than they used to be.

This is not a good place for our country to be, because it means a whole lot of voters minds are wholly owned by the parties and these people can't think for themselves.

How do we change that? Without Ronald Reagan, anyway.
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Agreed to a point, but what about Florida? Did it go from almost electing a Democrat governor 4 years ago to 65% Republican during that time even with lots of people from New York and other states moving there? Or did some former Democrats switch and vote for DeSantis, Rubio, etc. this time?
 
Guard Dad said:
The media is bending over backwards to make this about Trump, but I really don't think it is. With the possible exception of Herschel, Trump really didn't pick these candidates, he just endorsed some of them. The only voters that was a deal breaker to was voters who would not have voted for the candidates anyway.

Herschel is a flawed candidate, so is Oz.

And I still think we're underestimating the effect of mail-in ballots. The Democrats were very effective in using them to bring in tons more voters, and some of them are voters who are being told who to vote for. And that's assuming no fraud, which I'm not convinced there wasn't.
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Trump definitely deserves some blame with his endorsements and negative comments about other Republicans. He also could have donated some of the huge amounts of money he raised to help Republican candidates.
 
cptlo said:
Trump definitely deserves some blame with his endorsements and negative comments about other Republicans. He also could have donated some of the huge amounts of money he raised to help Republican candidates.
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An argument can be made that he could have helped more. And I agree about his mouth. But I really don't think he did anything that affected this election that much.
 
cptlo said:
Agreed to a point, but what about Florida? Did it go from almost electing a Democrat governor 4 years ago to 65% Republican during that time even with lots of people from New York and other states moving there? Or did some former Democrats switch and vote for DeSantis, Rubio, etc. this time?
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1) DeSantis is a hugely popular governor.

2) I saw some reports that a lot of the people that moved there from NY and similar places did so to escape the lockdowns and stupidity. So they were probably already conservative or converting.

We saw a smaller amount of that with Kemp. But unlike Rubio, Walker has some major negatives, and he's running against an incumbent. Take Herschel Walker, remove his checkered past and teach him to speak well, and he would have won easily.

Lastly...thanks to Stacey Abrams, voters in Georgia are extremely polarized by race. Though it appears Kemp did do better among black men this time. The Dems made Herschel out to be an Uncle Tom, which I find disgusting. No one should be rubber stamped because of their skin color.
 
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Guard Dad said:
1) DeSantis is a hugely popular governor.

2) I saw some reports that a lot of the people that moved there from NY and similar places did so to escape the lockdowns and stupidity. So they were probably already conservative or converting.
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Agree that many of those that moved were probably already at least leaning conservative. However, Zeldin lost the NY governor's race by 5%. It's a bit shocking he got that close especially if lots of conservatives left New York leaving it more Democratic.

Good candidates matter. Walker is not a good candidate. Oz is better than Walker, but still not a great candidate. Many of these less than stellar candidates were endorsed and pushed by Trump simply because they agreed with him about 2020.
 
It’s easy to blame others when the truth is closer to the fact that you sucked as as a candidate and probably never should have been on the ballot to begin with. I mean I like Walker, I voted for him, but I would have voted for tree stump before Warnock. Wait, I did….nevermind.
 
Guard Dad said:
1) DeSantis is a hugely popular governor.

2) I saw some reports that a lot of the people that moved there from NY and similar places did so to escape the lockdowns and stupidity. So they were probably already conservative or converting.

We saw a smaller amount of that with Kemp. But unlike Rubio, Walker has some major negatives, and he's running against an incumbent. Take Herschel Walker, remove his chckered past and teach him to speak well, and he would have won easily.

Lastly...thanks to Stacey Abrams, voters in Georgia are extremely polarized by race. Though it appears Kemp did do better among black men this time. The Dems made Herschel out to be an Uncle Tom, which I find disgusting. No one should be rubber stamped because of their skin color.
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I was reading comments from pundits that movement from NY helped in a small way, but the big difference is coming from the Hispanic communities. The Cuban immigrants were conservative from the start, but they have greatly influenced the South American Latino's as to how the political parties here actually work, which in turn has moved many of them to the republican party.

As for Herschel, I have severe reservations about his ability to be a 'Law Maker', but may be a sufficient influencer of policy. But in any case, that is the hand we were dealt and we should play it depending on current events. We know that Alaska will go red, probably with Murkowsky, and Nevada will probably go red with Laxalt. If Arizona goes blue with Kelly, then it falls to Georgia to turn the Senate red, no matter what we think of Walker and McConnel. We need the ability to stack the committees with enough republicans that we dictate what comes out of the senate, like SCOTUS picks. That needs to be the driving force behind putting Herschel in the senate, and not how well he speaks. Now if Masters pulls off a miracle and wins, we are home free. We can LET Warnock go back or take a big swing and go for Walker anyway. The problem is, if Herschel wins, what will Warnock and Abrams cook up in the next 2-4 years to make our lives miserable? Still, sending Walker to DC for insurance sake is probably the best idea at this point.
 
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Guard Dad said:
Nah. I'm realistic about Trump and his mouth, but I also think he's getting blamed for way too much.
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I don't think he's been blamed enough. Take a good look at the candidates he endorsed in the primaries. They all had one thing in common. They were all vocal in denying the results of the 2020 election. The conservative votes in those primary races were split, but there were enough of those diehard Trump supporters to give the wins to those he endorsed. They were terrible candidates and enough of them lost to cost the GOP a larger majority in the House and most likely prevent them from getting the majority in the Senate.

Take Georgia's senate race is a good example of what I'm saying. Walker was kissing Trump's ass and got his endorsement, but he was a terrible candidate. Kemp won his race, but couldn't pull Walker across the finish line with him. Quite frankly, I don't think Walker will win the runoff.
 
Hey Mudflap, what are they waiting on in Arizona, mail-in's?? They seem to be stuck at 70%. New Mexico seems to be waiting as well. Is there any fall out from Hobbs not stepping down as SOS and running for GOV?
 
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