Russia & Ukraine...the drums of war are getting louder

Far West said:
Oddly, I never think of Russians as being very religious.
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Very….and mostly Catholic. It seems like “they” are concerned about some of the same things we’re concerned about. Specifically how the west has embraced homosexuality. Don’t be fooled, we are not so different.
 
J-man said:
Very….and mostly Catholic. It seems like “they” are concerned about some of the same things we’re concerned about. Specifically how the west has embraced homosexuality. Don’t be fooled, we are not so different.
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The Russian Orthodox Church is not Catholicism, though the garb looks similar. The patriarch believes Putin is doing what God wants him to do. I did a little more research on Kirill and found out he used to be a KGB agent before the fall of the USSR.
 
Boss 302 said:
The Russian Orthodox Church is not Catholicism, though the garb looks similar. The patriarch believes Putin is doing what God wants him to do. I did a little more research on Kirill and found out he used to be a KGB agent before the fall of the USSR.
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Crap, that's right...I stand corrected. It was late and I had just got home from a long ride back from Louisiana so that's my excuse. Don't know why I typed Catholic, must have been all the crawfish this weekend.
 
The annexation took all of Ukraine's coastline (about 90%) except for Odesa. He wanted pretty much all the ports so his navy would have easier access to the Med.
 
Boss 302 said:
My fear is he'll start using nukes.
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I highly doubt it. It's possible but not probable, more likely to be used or perceived as a threat. The MSM loves to hype it and push it in a way to heighten the fear meter.
 
J-man said:
I highly doubt it. It's possible but not probable, more likely to be used or perceived as a threat. The MSM loves to hype it and push it in a way to heighten the fear meter.
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I'm looking at this as an intel analyst basing an assessment base on not what the news media is hyping, but what Putin has said publicly and what Putin has done. He's fired five generals because they have all failed in defeating the Ukrainian army. He's now conscripting 300k to send to fight in Ukraine, and he's having difficulty getting supplies to his troops. Russian convoys have been destroyed because they have run out of fuel. Ukrainians have captured some of Russia's newest tanks the T-90. There's no doubt we're already examining that to see what its weaknesses are. The Ukrainians have turned out to be a lot tougher than Putin and anyone else for that matter thought they would be.

Morale in the Russian army is very low because they're losing and feel they can't get the support from Moscow they feel they need. This reminds me of WWII. Hitler fired generals because they were losing. They were losing because the allies were better equipped and better supplied. Hitler kept promising supplies and reinforcements to the western fronts, but didn't. Instead, he concentrated everything on the Russian front. Generals in the field had become disgusted with Hitler and in 1943, many agreed Hitler had to go.

This is a lot like what is happening today. Putin is acting in so many ways as Hitler did. The key difference is, Hitler didn't have the weaponry to destroy his enemies, but Putin does and that's nukes. Putin will use nukes if it's necessary for him to win. Right now, he thinks he's on a mission for God.
 
I try not to follow the MSM propaganda angle because I know from first hand experience how their storyline differs from actual intel. Removing emotion and being objective I honestly think there will be an eventual "peace agreement", Putin will maintain most (if not all) of the recently "annexed' regions, Ukraine will not become a NATO member (at least not in the near term), and the U.S. will continue to laundry give money to support the Ukraine goobermint. That's just my opinion.
 
This is how things escalate from "normal war" to "WWIII" and how nukes can be inadvertently used in a misguided response.

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Ukraine is not the innocent emerging Democratic Republic that our MSM wants us to believe. They're as corrupt, or even more so, as Afghanistan or other 3rd world hell holes. WWI history repeating itself.
 
J-man said:
I try not to follow the MSM propaganda angle because I know from first hand experience how their storyline differs from actual intel. Removing emotion and being objective I honestly think there will be an eventual "peace agreement", Putin will maintain most (if not all) of the recently "annexed' regions, Ukraine will not become a NATO member (at least not in the near term), and the U.S. will continue to laundry give money to support the Ukraine goobermint. That's just my opinion.
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I agree.

I think Russia was cut off from a warm water port to access Europe by Ukraine, notice those are the ones he just "annexed."

I was told this theory when this all started, by someone from Europe, who lived in various countries there. It seems to be playing out. She did not feel Ukraine is innocent in this war. They have had guerilla type fighters for a decade.

I don't think we belong involved in this money laundering scheme. I know it looks bad that Putin declared war on Ukraine, but I think there is more to this than we know.
 
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