Paulding County Reservoir a reality with State funding

I may have put this in the wrong thread, so here it is here. Sorry for the cross posting.

Far be it from me to defend the EPA and EPD, but........

There is a longstanding issue regarding interbasin transfers involved with this project. These are not new, and Paulding has acknowledged that these issues exist. There will be no Federal permit until this issue is resolved, and it is a complicated issue involving the long term waste water treatment plans for the county as well as the growth patterns within the three basins in Paulding.

It is not going to happen without an Environmental Impact Study, which the county claims it doesn't need, but which it does need if it intends to ever get this project approved. Nothing will proceed within the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa basin without one. Besides, there is action pending that would require the COE and EPA to consider all of those proposed reservoirs along the ACT cumulatively as a "program level" singular Environmental Impact. The quicker we get our EIS, the less likely it will be thrown into the pot and boiled with the other ten or so proposed projects.

Then, assuming we get all of these problems resolved, there is a matter of the cost, which frankly scares me. It may be our best option to support growth, but we really need to make that decision using cost/benefit analysis.
 
lotstodo said:
I may have put this in the wrong thread, so here it is here. Sorry for the cross posting.

Far be it from me to defend the EPA and EPD, but........

There is a longstanding issue regarding interbasin transfers involved with this project. These are not new, and Paulding has acknowledged that these issues exist. There will be no Federal permit until this issue is resolved, and it is a complicated issue involving the long term waste water treatment plans for the county as well as the growth patterns within the three basins in Paulding.

It is not going to happen without an Environmental Impact Study, which the county claims it doesn't need, but which it does need if it intends to ever get this project approved. Nothing will proceed within the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa basin without one. Besides, there is action pending that would require the COE and EPA to consider all of those proposed reservoirs along the ACT cumulatively as a "program level" singular Environmental Impact. The quicker we get our EIS, the less likely it will be thrown into the pot and boiled with the other ten or so proposed projects.

Then, assuming we get all of these problems resolved, there is a matter of the cost, which frankly scares me. It may be our best option to support growth, but we really need to make that decision using cost/benefit analysis.

I thought there was a federal court ruling on this a few years ago? The suit involved Cobb County I think because they started their money errr water pit long before Paulding did?

I just sent Boyd Austin a message, who sits on the water boards, about this issue. I'll post his reply when I get it.
 
Put simply what lotstodo is saying is-If we take 20 million gallons of water a day from the etowah river basin,There had better be 20 million gallons a day of treated waste water going back into the etowah river basin watershed.
It can't be sent to sweetwater creek because that is the chattahoochie river basin.


I'm so glad winchester, lotstodo and naturegirl can also see the big picture
 
Winchester said:
lotstodo said:
I may have put this in the wrong thread, so here it is here. Sorry for the cross posting.

Far be it from me to defend the EPA and EPD, but........

There is a longstanding issue regarding interbasin transfers involved with this project. These are not new, and Paulding has acknowledged that these issues exist. There will be no Federal permit until this issue is resolved, and it is a complicated issue involving the long term waste water treatment plans for the county as well as the growth patterns within the three basins in Paulding.

It is not going to happen without an Environmental Impact Study, which the county claims it doesn't need, but which it does need if it intends to ever get this project approved. Nothing will proceed within the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa basin without one. Besides, there is action pending that would require the COE and EPA to consider all of those proposed reservoirs along the ACT cumulatively as a "program level" singular Environmental Impact. The quicker we get our EIS, the less likely it will be thrown into the pot and boiled with the other ten or so proposed projects.

Then, assuming we get all of these problems resolved, there is a matter of the cost, which frankly scares me. It may be our best option to support growth, but we really need to make that decision using cost/benefit analysis.

I thought there was a federal court ruling on this a few years ago? The suit involved Cobb County I think because they started their money errr water pit long before Paulding did?

I just sent Boyd Austin a message, who sits on the water boards, about this issue. I'll post his reply when I get it.
Winchester, my info is not from a politician. That is, as you say, about all I can say on that subject. EIS's are a debatable subject when it involves a reservoir, courts have decided both ways. Richland Creek has not been adjudicated. But I can guarantee you that anything involving the "water wars" will not move forward without an EIS, period. It is not going to happen. That is pretty much a line in the sand.
There will also not be a project permitted with this sort of interbasin transfer as long as the water wars exist. There will have to be an adjustment to our waste water plan. The county's numbers assume that waste water is distributed evenly per square mile of the county which is not only a fallacy, but which itself points out a net loss from the ACT. In truth the growth on the east side of the county means that even more will flow into the Hooch.

I'm saying that we can either go on ignoring these problems and wait for the COE, EPA, or the courts to reject the application, or address them. I will be the most surprised person on this planet if the current plan is approved and the first shovel of dirt is moved.
 
thedeerslayer said:
Put simply what lotstodo is saying is-If we take 20 million gallons of water a day from the etowah river basin,There had better be 20 million gallons a day of treated waste water going back into the etowah river basin watershed.
It can't be sent to sweetwater creek because that is the chattahoochie river basin.


I'm so glad winchester, lotstodo and naturegirl can also see the big picture
The county's own Master Sewer plans suggest that by 2020, of the 35 MGD withdrawal from the Etowah, only 17 MGD will be returned. That is not an insignificant amount, and that isn't going to fly.
 
lotstodo said:
Winchester said:
Oh heck, it's always easier to ask for forgiveness then it is for permission!
Let's start digging a hole and see if anybody notices. :whistle

Works for me. But all we need is some rocks and a little mud. The hole is already in place. Timber was cut a few years ago. We ready!
 
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