New Guidelines Proposed For Sex Ed In Schools

I doubt it would really be successful anyway. Look at the DARE program. Kids start DARE in the 5th grade, but how effective is it anyway? Look at how many high school students who are using drugs went through the DARE program.

Here's what worked effectively for me - my father. He was a man of his word when he said if you do this, this is what I'm going to do to you. He told me if he ever caught me doing drugs or even heard I was doing any drugs, he'd kick my butt to within an inch of my life. Guess what? I never did any drugs.

When I started high school, he told me if I ever came home to announce the girlfriend of the week was pregnant, he'd kick my butt within an inch of my life, make me quit school and get a job so I could support the baby. Guess what? I was still a virgin when I graduated from high school.

Parenting works. Some should actually try it sometime rather than trying to be their kid's best friend.
 
Foxmeister said:
I doubt it would really be successful anyway. Look at the DARE program. Kids start DARE in the 5th grade, but how effective is it anyway? Look at how many high school students who are using drugs went through the DARE program.

Here's what worked effectively for me - my father. He was a man of his word when he said if you do this, this is what I'm going to do to you. He told me if he ever caught me doing drugs or even heard I was doing any drugs, he'd kick my butt to within an inch of my life. Guess what? I never did any drugs.

When I started high school, he told me if I ever came home to announce the girlfriend of the week was pregnant, he'd kick my butt within an inch of my life, make me quit school and get a job so I could support the baby. Guess what? I was still a virgin when I graduated from high school.

Parenting works. Some should actually try it sometime rather than trying to be their kid's best friend.
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:CLAP :thumbsup
 
Foxmeister said:
I doubt it would really be successful anyway. Look at the DARE program. Kids start DARE in the 5th grade, but how effective is it anyway? Look at how many high school students who are using drugs went through the DARE program.

Here's what worked effectively for me - my father. He was a man of his word when he said if you do this, this is what I'm going to do to you. He told me if he ever caught me doing drugs or even heard I was doing any drugs, he'd kick my butt to within an inch of my life. Guess what? I never did any drugs.

When I started high school, he told me if I ever came home to announce the girlfriend of the week was pregnant, he'd kick my butt within an inch of my life, make me quit school and get a job so I could support the baby. Guess what? I was still a virgin when I graduated from high school.

Parenting works. Some should actually try it sometime rather than trying to be their kid's best friend.
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AMEN!!!! :cheer1 :cheer1 :cheer1

None of these programs teach abstinenance as a viable choice, they all go on the assumption that the kids are going to have sex anyway so they don't bother teaching them about the benefits of NOT having sex.
 
It's crazy how so many parents seem to be in a big hurry for their kids to grow up and then are shocked when they get pregnant at 13 or have drug/alcohol issues at 12 or whatever else they get into.

And Fox ... :CLAP to your father.
 
Not sure I agree with it being taught in elementary, but I as a parent have always been very upfront with my kids and told them things they needed to know. I never avoided their questions regarding sex, drugs or what ever they were curious about. I am not one to sugarcoat things either. My daughter never really asked question till maybe 8th grade...my son started asking me things in 6th grade, not a lot of questions but here and there.

I am with Gary, it is "OUR" responsibility as parents to teach our children about things, to be the PARENT, not the schools. It irks me that some parents think, oh well they will learn that in school so I don't have to worry about it. UGGH. Yeah they will learn that and a bunch of other things they shouldn't. My kids know they can come to me with any question what so ever and we'll get the right answer and then they will know where their dad and I stand on the question at hand and what we expect of them.

sorry got on a little bit of a rant....rant over now.....carry on ;D
 
LisaC said:
Foxmeister said:
I doubt it would really be successful anyway. Look at the DARE program. Kids start DARE in the 5th grade, but how effective is it anyway? Look at how many high school students who are using drugs went through the DARE program.

Here's what worked effectively for me - my father. He was a man of his word when he said if you do this, this is what I'm going to do to you. He told me if he ever caught me doing drugs or even heard I was doing any drugs, he'd kick my butt to within an inch of my life. Guess what? I never did any drugs.

When I started high school, he told me if I ever came home to announce the girlfriend of the week was pregnant, he'd kick my butt within an inch of my life, make me quit school and get a job so I could support the baby. Guess what? I was still a virgin when I graduated from high school.

Parenting works. Some should actually try it sometime rather than trying to be their kid's best friend.
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AMEN!!!! :cheer1 :cheer1 :cheer1

None of these programs teach abstinenance as a viable choice, they all go on the assumption that the kids are going to have sex anyway so they don't bother teaching them about the benefits of NOT having sex.
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SO TRUE!!! Abstinence was taught to me by my mother and I was a virgin till I married. I teach that to my kids as well. There is a program that is offered called True Love Waits and my daughter went through that program in our youth group at church and she very proudly wears a purity ring that says true love waits. She has had girls ask why on earth she would wear that ring and she proudly tells them, why would you not? why would you give up the most precious gift you will ever give to someone? to someone you don't love? Why not wait? There is a guy in her chorus class who also wears a purity ring, and girls "try" to date him and see if they can push him to give it up....what's that tell ya about some of our kids?? He and my daughter call each other purity buddies..lol
 
One of the big problems we have today is television. Look at how young teen girls are dressed on these shows. Look at how they act. Hollywood is providing some of the ammunition here and many parents are providing the gun. I've actually known parents who have told their kids, "I can't be everywhere you go, so if you're going to have sex, please use a condom." Holy crap, that's like giving them permission to have sex. I know several parents who put their teenage daughters on birth control pill, "just in case they decide to have sex." Again, that's giving them permission. How about instead, "I'm going to kick your butt within an inch of your life..."

That worked so well on me, I used it on my kids and guess what? It works. My daughter has 5 children; the oldest will be 11 next month. She and her husband plan to do the same thing. She's not afraid to smack any of her children on the fanny in public if they misbehave. She rarely has to do that because they rarely misbehave and it's because they know what will happen when they do.
 
I am fine with education about anatomy and reproduction (biology).
I am not cool with any discussion of contraception... that is my job.
 
honeybunny said:
I am fine with education about anatomy and reproduction (biology).
I am not cool with any discussion of contraception... that is my job
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I agree. When schools start teaching contraception, they're actually undermining the parents who are teaching their children abstinence.
 
The parenting problems start long before the teen years and I blame parents not Hollywood. Just because a program is on tv does not mean that kids need to watch it. Just because a movie is in the theaters does not mean that kids need to see it. And just because hoochie clothes are available in kids sizes does not mean that they have to wear them. Why do 6 year olds need to leave the house wearing make up, bootie shorts, and high heels? Why do parents allow their 8 year olds to be taught to "bump and grind " in their dance classes and then do those dances on a stage in front of an audience?
 
unionmom said:
The parenting problems start long before the teen years and I blame parents not Hollywood. Just because a program is on tv does not mean that kids need to watch it. Just because a movie is in the theaters does not mean that kids need to see it. And just because hoochie clothes are available in kids sizes does not mean that they have to wear them. Why do 6 year olds need to leave the house wearing make up, bootie shorts, and high heels? Why do parents allow their 8 year olds to be taught to "bump and grind " in their dance classes and then do those dances on a stage in front of an audience?
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Notice I said Hollywood is providing the ammuniton (the shows) and parents the gun (permission to watch).

I can't believe how many parents think it's "cute" to dress their little girls in "hoochie" clothes and wear makeup. Holy crap.
 
I wanna go back to the day where kids were allowed to be kids
 
Foxmeister said:
Notice I said Hollywood is providing the ammuniton (the shows) and parents the gun (permission to watch).

I can't believe how many parents think it's "cute" to dress their little girls in "hoochie" clothes and wear makeup. Holy crap.
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I did notice that you didn't throw it all on Hollywood. I tend to not throw any blame there, personally. There are temptations, evils, etc. all over the place. It is our job as parents to help our children navigate through them on the right course to a positive life.
 
I recently saw a news report about a toddler singing a sexy song in a night club. She was a part of something called "Toddlers and Tiaras". How sad is that? :dunno
 
newsjunky said:
I recently saw a news report about a toddler singing a sexy song in a night club. She was a part of something called "Toddlers and Tiaras". How sad is that? :dunno
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OMG, that show absolutely spikes my blood pressure. :rant
 
honeybunny said:
I am fine with education about anatomy and reproduction (biology).
I am not cool with any discussion of contraception... that is my job.
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::ditto

My son's best friend is a good boy and I like his family. The only thing that REALLY bothers me is that at age 12 he seems very serious about his girlfriend. And it appears to be strongly encouraged by both families. I point out frequently to my son that serious relationships at this age simply shouldn't be the norm.
 
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