Concealed Weapons Save Lives

[Grey Colson]

I started carrying a gun when I was mugged in downtown Atlanta - broad daylight, while walking to my car.

question: If you are carrying a gun in your purse and a gun is already drawn on you then what good is it to you then?

Every situation is different, but here's my .02 cents. My wife carries and knows this:

I could be standing in full uniform with my Glock in my level 3 holster (What that means is I have to make 3 specific moves with the gun to remove it) and a bad guy had the drop on me. Even then, it would be almost impossible to draw my weapon before he gets a round off.

So....I become a moving target, immediately, going for cover and drawing my weapon. Why you may ask? Thanks for asking ) Most bad guys with guns are thugs who DO NOT PRACTICE shooting. They may have a gun, but most are very bad shots. And....being a bad shot already means you are not likely to hit the middle of a target, let alone a MOVING target.

If you stand still and the bad guy decides to shoot you, he probably will. But give him a moving target and you have a FAR better chance of either getting away totally or getting behind cover to get your weapon out to defend yourself.

 

[honeybunny]

if he wants my purse then the joke will be on him.. no cash = bazinga
keys and phones are replaceable

What if he wants more than just your purse ?

(I was the victim of an attempted abduction at 18 years old.)

 

[LisaC]

if he wants my purse then the joke will be on him.. no cash = bazinga
keys and phones are replaceable

What if he wants more than just your purse ?

(I was the victim of an attempted abduction at 18 years old.)

Then, if you're not carrying a gun, you scream like a girl, fight, and pray that someone reacts.

 

[Guard Dad]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

 

[ShoeDiva]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

 

[Guard Dad]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

Hey, a guy has to have his fantasies.

 

[sadie612]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

then you woke up and the sheet was wet..right

 

[LisaC]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

then you woke up and the sheet was wet..right

:spitchick :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

 

[Guard Dad]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

then you woke up and the sheet was wet..right

Ain't touching that one

 

[sadie612]

A ruthless gang of gorgeous women tried to abduct me awhile back. I fought them off though.

then you woke up and the sheet was wet..right

Ain't touching that one

That's what she said

 

[sadie612]

so to get back on topic.. guns are not bad, people are

lol

 

[Winchester]

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(

Even in GA, unless you are an active duty LEO (retired or ex LEO's get no special exemptions), you would not legally be allowed to carry in the theater...even if you have a CCW license.

 

[Grey Colson]

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(

Even in GA, unless you are an active duty LEO (retired or ex LEO's get no special exemptions), you would not legally be allowed to carry in the theater...even if you have a CCW license.

That's true. But I suspect there might have been one or two LEOs in the crowd. I pulled one dude (Not LEO) out of the AMC on Barrett a few years ago who had a license to carry, but frightened several people because he was wearing it on his belt. I just had him take it back to his car and return to the theater.

I'm kinda surprised they didn't have armed security on that night, knowing it was a big movie night. Not just because of possible terrorist attacks, but just the thuggery in general that shows up on nights like that. Or did they? I didn't hear.

 

[Winchester]

I've been around guns since a young boy. Deer hunting with a high powered rifle since 11 and owning/carrying sidearms since 18. Over 40 years of handling firearms and not once have I ever seen a firearm jump up and fire all by it's self! I have seen some firearms fire accidental due to a mechanical malfunction or mishandling. Not everyone should own a firearm, in fact many people should never be allowed to own a firearm. It all comes down to training and experience.

Criminals do not care about gun laws, or any other law for that fact. You outlaw or restrict firearms OF ANY TYPE and you only disarm honest, law abiding gun owners. Or you make criminals out of the honest law abiding citizens! I'll choose the second because you will not take away my constitutional right to bear arms. As once said in a John Wayne movie..."You'll get my gun when you pry my cold, dead fingers from around it!".

 

[Winchester]

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(

Even in GA, unless you are an active duty LEO (retired or ex LEO's get no special exemptions), you would not legally be allowed to carry in the theater...even if you have a CCW license.

That's true. But I suspect there might have been one or two LEOs in the crowd. I pulled one dude (Not LEO) out of the AMC on Barrett a few years ago who had a license to carry, but frightened several people because he was wearing it on his belt. I just had him take it back to his car and return to the theater.

I'm kinda surprised they didn't have armed security on that night, knowing it was a big movie night. Not just because of possible terrorist attacks, but just the thuggery in general that shows up on nights like that. Or did they? I didn't hear.

There were no on-site security, but I doubt it would have made a difference. Maybe as a deterrent but not to stop it once he started. Local LEO's were on scene within 90 seconds and he was already done and outside the building at his car. Hard to react even if they were already there any quicker.

With the body armor he had, it would have taken a high powered rifle to stop him. Pistols or revolvers would have had little effect.

 

[Grey Colson]

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(

Even in GA, unless you are an active duty LEO (retired or ex LEO's get no special exemptions), you would not legally be allowed to carry in the theater...even if you have a CCW license.

That's true. But I suspect there might have been one or two LEOs in the crowd. I pulled one dude (Not LEO) out of the AMC on Barrett a few years ago who had a license to carry, but frightened several people because he was wearing it on his belt. I just had him take it back to his car and return to the theater.

I'm kinda surprised they didn't have armed security on that night, knowing it was a big movie night. Not just because of possible terrorist attacks, but just the thuggery in general that shows up on nights like that. Or did they? I didn't hear.

There were no on-site security, but I doubt it would have made a difference. Maybe as a deterrent but not to stop it once he started. Local LEO's were on scene within 90 seconds and he was already done and outside the building at his car. Hard to react even if they were already there any quicker.

With the body armor he had, it would have taken a high powered rifle to stop him. Pistols or revolvers would have had little effect.

Two words: Head Shot :Ninja

I've got 42 rounds on me right now. I bet one of them could find the target. :race

 

[lotstodo]

What the gun lobby doesn't recognize is that a disturbed individual or an individual with CRIMINAL intent will find a way to carry out his crime. We don't need more gun laws, because these people are already breaking existing laws. We need severe punishment for gun CRIME, not punishment for gun ownership. This really isn't a legislative problem, it's an enforcement problem. I am totally incensed that a drug addict can get a more severe sentence for burglary than an armed robber can get.

I too have lost family members to suicide. Two were by shotgun. But I would never try to outlaw shotguns. Truth be told, if there were no such thing, they would have both found another way. Mrs. LTD's father was shot and killed by a crazy person. Truth be told, that crazy person also would have prevailed with or without the existence of firearms. The decision to commit a violent act is the crime, not the ownership of a gun.

 

[Winchester]

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(

Even in GA, unless you are an active duty LEO (retired or ex LEO's get no special exemptions), you would not legally be allowed to carry in the theater...even if you have a CCW license.

That's true. But I suspect there might have been one or two LEOs in the crowd. I pulled one dude (Not LEO) out of the AMC on Barrett a few years ago who had a license to carry, but frightened several people because he was wearing it on his belt. I just had him take it back to his car and return to the theater.

I'm kinda surprised they didn't have armed security on that night, knowing it was a big movie night. Not just because of possible terrorist attacks, but just the thuggery in general that shows up on nights like that. Or did they? I didn't hear.

There were no on-site security, but I doubt it would have made a difference. Maybe as a deterrent but not to stop it once he started. Local LEO's were on scene within 90 seconds and he was already done and outside the building at his car. Hard to react even if they were already there any quicker.

With the body armor he had, it would have taken a high powered rifle to stop him. Pistols or revolvers would have had little effect.

Two words: Head Shot :Ninja

I've got 42 rounds on me right now. I bet one of them could find the target. :race

He had a kevlar helmet also. So it would be a small target area. But I would bet if someone had started return fire he would have been sh....err crapping and a gettin! From what I have seen on this guy he has no guts and only wanted easy targets.

 

[Winchester]

What the gun lobby doesn't recognize is that a disturbed individual or an individual with CRIMINAL intent will find a way to carry out his crime. We don't need more gun laws, because these people are already breaking existing laws. We need severe punishment for gun CRIME, not punishment for gun ownership. This really isn't a legislative problem, it's an enforcement problem. I am totally incensed that a drug addict can get a more severe sentence for burglary than an armed robber can get.

I too have lost family members to suicide. Two were by shotgun. But I would never try to outlaw shotguns. Truth be told, if there were no such thing, they would have both found another way. Mrs. LTD's father was shot and killed by a crazy person. Truth be told, that crazy person also would have prevailed with or without the existence of firearms. The decision to commit a violent act is the crime, not the ownership of a gun.

Well said!

 

[Winchester]

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(

I keep thinking about this comment. And this event. And then I think back on when I left the SO and had to get use to not being able to carry every where I went. I admit, it was tough and I had to think about NOT doing it. After I did a few times and realised I was now breaking the law. So I finally went and got my firearms license (CCW was not available then, only exposed carry), but was so restricted where I could carry, I basically stopped all together.....until I ran across an ex-inmate who recognized me. Lucky for me he was friendly.

I never renewed my firearms license for years after it expired. But when I started doing vacant foreclosed properties and had a couple of close calls, I got a new firearms license, now it allows CCW but still very restrictive as to where you can carry.

I say this because you will be in shock when you retire. The only difference between you and someone who has no experience or training is that your license is free. You still get fingerprinted and treated like "commoner". lol But they would not have people looking for them for revenge either! And this is just not right in my opinion.