Concealed Weapons Save Lives

The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(
 
The hubster will be packing from this point forward. He has the permit but we just never felt it necessary. Things like this remind us it isn't as safe out the as we think. Sad but true.
 
Grey Colson said:
The problem in Colorado was not so much that the bad guy had a gun, but rather that no one else did. :'(
I agree in Colorado, overall. I am not so sure that this specific incident it would have made a difference. (or if you were speaking of just Colorado generally) That guy had a plan, was heavily armed, protected himself, and stunned everyone with his initial smoke bomb. :eek: :eek: Crazy!!! I just think that in that situation guns might not have helped. Obviously we do not know, but I am just saying that situation.

I do agree with the fact that most mass shootings, if someone is armed besides the killer, a different outcome might happen. Especially when a potential shooter knows they are entering somewhere that someone can possibly be armed.
 
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...
 
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.
 
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I do not believe that you are dumb. Owning a firearm is a personal choice.
Some folks are not comfortable around guns, and that is just fine by me.
 
honeybunny said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I do not believe that you are dumb. Owning a firearm is a personal choice.
Some folks are not comfortable around guns, and that is just fine by me.

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Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.
agreed but some people make the wrong choices

I know that they are ours to make but dang... I only gave 2 instances where people with guns have changed my families life... sadly I have a few more stories to tell and none are positive

my biggest beef with guns is why are all these high power assault weapons and machine guns and other multi round guns avaible to the public... why does one need an arsenal of weapons... that is my only concern... I know it is our right as a free country but as a citizen it concerns me that some laws are so laxed
 
sadie612 said:
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.
agreed but some people make the wrong choices

I know that they are ours to make but dang... I only gave 2 instances where people with guns have changed my families life... sadly I have a few more stories to tell and none are positive

my biggest beef with guns is why are all these high power assault weapons and machine guns and other multi round guns avaible to the public... why does one need an arsenal of weapons... that is my only concern... I know it is our right as a free country but as a citizen it concerns me that some laws are so laxed

The guns you speak of are not available to the general public:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Rifle#Legal_ownership_by_civilians
 
sadie612 said:
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.
agreed but some people make the wrong choices

I know that they are ours to make but dang... I only gave 2 instances where people with guns have changed my families life... sadly I have a few more stories to tell and none are positive

my biggest beef with guns is why are all these high power assault weapons and machine guns and other multi round guns avaible to the public... why does one need an arsenal of weapons... that is my only concern... I know it is our right as a free country but as a citizen it concerns me that some laws are so laxed

Well, the "assault weapons" hoopla is more significant in the news than in reality.

Fully automatic military grade weapons are illegal to own. And the legal "assault weapons" are little different than hunting rifles.

GC can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the vast majority of crimes committed using firearm are done with illegal firearms. And that gives credence to the saying "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns". Gun control only disarms the law-abiding citizen.

I was raised in a time when we had guns laying all over the house. But, we were taught at an early age how to use them, and what they were capable of. My dad gave me a .22 at 10 or 12 years old, and I was free to spend my summers carrying my gun around without supervision, plinking cans or whatever. I realize that such a thing is considered horrible by today's standards.

But absolutely, it is and should be a personal choice. We must all do what's right for us and our families.
 
honeybunny said:
sadie612 said:
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.
agreed but some people make the wrong choices

I know that they are ours to make but dang... I only gave 2 instances where people with guns have changed my families life... sadly I have a few more stories to tell and none are positive

my biggest beef with guns is why are all these high power assault weapons and machine guns and other multi round guns avaible to the public... why does one need an arsenal of weapons... that is my only concern... I know it is our right as a free country but as a citizen it concerns me that some laws are so laxed

The guns you speak of are not available to the general public:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Rifle#Legal_ownership_by_civilians

they are not available but they are...they are out there and people have them
 
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.

Ditto
 
I started carrying a gun when I was mugged in downtown Atlanta - broad daylight, while walking to my car.
 
LisaC said:
I started carrying a gun when I was mugged in downtown Atlanta - broad daylight, while walking to my car.
question: If you are carrying a gun in your purse and a gun is already drawn on you then what good is it to you then?
 
sadie612 said:
LisaC said:
I started carrying a gun when I was mugged in downtown Atlanta - broad daylight, while walking to my car.
question: If you are carrying a gun in your purse and a gun is already drawn on you then what good is it to you then?
It improves the odds of getting out of the situation. I generally think it's a better idea NOT to carry a gun in your purse, when I carry, it's on me where I can get to it quickly. Think about this, if you were attacked, what are the chances that a man is going to stop and frisk a woman? Almost zero. He will, however, focus on getting your purse, keys or phone - he's not looking for a gun.
 
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
Guard Dad said:
sadie612 said:
I will never own a gun... I was a victim when I was 5 and shot by another kid because of guns laying around.

then my brother got down in the dumps one night and killed himself with a gun....

i see both sides of the debate .. but there will always be good people and bad people, there will always be bad gun owners and good gun owners

I for one choose to be a non gun owner..with that said..no you can not have my address

some people believe I am dumb for not having a gun but It is my choice and I will stand by it

when it is my time to go it is my time to go...

I respect that.

The important thing is that we have the choice.
agreed but some people make the wrong choices

I know that they are ours to make but dang... I only gave 2 instances where people with guns have changed my families life... sadly I have a few more stories to tell and none are positive

my biggest beef with guns is why are all these high power assault weapons and machine guns and other multi round guns avaible to the public... why does one need an arsenal of weapons... that is my only concern... I know it is our right as a free country but as a citizen it concerns me that some laws are so laxed

Well, the "assault weapons" hoopla is more significant in the news than in reality.

Fully automatic military grade weapons are illegal to own. And the legal "assault weapons" are little different than hunting rifles.

GC can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the vast majority of crimes committed using firearm are done with illegal firearms. And that gives credence to the saying "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns". Gun control only disarms the law-abiding citizen.

I was raised in a time when we had guns laying all over the house. But, we were taught at an early age how to use them, and what they were capable of. My dad gave me a .22 at 10 or 12 years old, and I was free to spend my summers carrying my gun around without supervision, plinking cans or whatever. I realize that such a thing is considered horrible by today's standards.

But absolutely, it is and should be a personal choice. We must all do what's right for us and our families.

A small percentage of these assault weapons are fully automatic. There is a BIG difference. You can own them, but only if you hold a FFL (Federal Firearms License). It's an involved process that requires a person to complete ATF paperwork. In Cobb, that paperwork has to be submitted through the Sheriff's Office where an investigator conducts a thorough back ground check before the Sheriff will sign off on it. In short, a person who legally owns fully automatic weapons has been looked at SO close, they feel like they've had a microscope up their butt. :eek:

I typed all that to type this and agree with many posts already here. The vast majority of those who commit crimes with full auto assault weapons and semi-auto weapons possess them illegally.
 
LisaC said:
sadie612 said:
LisaC said:
I started carrying a gun when I was mugged in downtown Atlanta - broad daylight, while walking to my car.
question: If you are carrying a gun in your purse and a gun is already drawn on you then what good is it to you then?
It improves the odds of getting out of the situation. I generally think it's a better idea NOT to carry a gun in your purse, when I carry, it's on me where I can get to it quickly. Think about this, if you were attacked, what are the chances that a man is going to stop and frisk a woman? Almost zero. He will, however, focus on getting your purse, keys or phone - he's not looking for a gun.
if he wants my purse then the joke will be on him.. no cash = bazinga
keys and phones are replaceable
 
sadie612 said:
LisaC said:
sadie612 said:
LisaC said:
I started carrying a gun when I was mugged in downtown Atlanta - broad daylight, while walking to my car.
question: If you are carrying a gun in your purse and a gun is already drawn on you then what good is it to you then?
It improves the odds of getting out of the situation. I generally think it's a better idea NOT to carry a gun in your purse, when I carry, it's on me where I can get to it quickly. Think about this, if you were attacked, what are the chances that a man is going to stop and frisk a woman? Almost zero. He will, however, focus on getting your purse, keys or phone - he's not looking for a gun.
if he wants my purse then the joke will be on him.. no cash = bazinga
keys and phones are replaceable
Exactly, and that was, very fortunately, all the guy got from me that day. I, however, was the recipient of a concussion, bruises and a busted lip.
 
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