The "Save BBG\'s Soul" Thread

[mei lan]

These two links are interesting reading...

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml/

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/1999/11/05/dinosaurs-and-the-bible

It said the dinosaurs had empty passages in their heads that held a combustible liquid to help them breath fire. Sounds like "Babies first Disney Bible" to me. I really cannot believe that. What would cause the liquid to ignite? Also, it didnt mention what killed them off. Thats kinda something I would put in a book.

Perhaps. If you were writing a book about The History Of Giant Land Animals. But if you were writing a book about God and how He created us, how we were separated from Him by sin, and how He figured out a way (at great cost to Himself) to bring us back to Him, I can see how what happened to dinosaurs might not make the cut.

 

[Guard Dad]

Just in case anyone missed it, BBG asked about people giving him some real answers to his questions on faith and God. That is why GD started this. Soon after they lost power at their house, so that is why he has not posted anything.

And I did it to take a slightly humorous approach at a serious matter. I find some fun in everything.

I know thats why you did it. But I would like some questions answered. And I promise to remove my tinfoil hat and cod piece. ;D

I figured you'd know why.

 

[I'm Floored]

These two links are interesting reading...

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml/

It said the dinosaurs had empty passages in their heads that held a combustible liquid to help them breath fire. Sounds like "Babies first Disney Bible" to me. I really cannot believe that. What would cause the liquid to ignite? Also, it didnt mention what killed them off. Thats kinda something I would put in a book.

Many fossil dinosaur skulls contain unexplained, empty passages. Scientists have not been able to guess the reason for these passages. Would it make sense that some dinosaurs used these passages as “gas tanks” for the combustible mixture used to “breathe fire?” We believe it does.

And now for the key ingredient: fire. It is hard to read Job 41:18-21 without realizing the Bible is telling us that Leviathan breathes fire. That alone will eliminate almost every living animal. Yes, there is one animal like that in today’s world. It is called a bombardier beetle. This beetle is a native of Central America, and has a nozzle in its hind end that acts like a little flame thrower. It sprays a high-temperature jet of gas (fueled by hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide with oxidative enzymes) for protection. Now, if a Central American beetle can do it, so could Leviathan.

I don't believe the authors KNOW that these are the explanations, but are offering explanations that are plausible. I'm certainly not a scientist. Many of your questions are valid, and will spur me to further study myself.

 

[mei lan]

Just in case anyone missed it, BBG asked about people giving him some real answers to his questions on faith and God. That is why GD started this. Soon after they lost power at their house, so that is why he has not posted anything.

And I did it to take a slightly humorous approach at a serious matter. I find some fun in everything.

I know thats why you did it. But I would like some questions answered. And I promise to remove my tinfoil hat and cod piece. ;D

Just the hat, please...

Uh...yeah...agreed! :hidingeyes:

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Just in case anyone missed it, BBG asked about people giving him some real answers to his questions on faith and God. That is why GD started this. Soon after they lost power at their house, so that is why he has not posted anything.

And I did it to take a slightly humorous approach at a serious matter. I find some fun in everything.

I know thats why you did it. But I would like some questions answered. And I promise to remove my tinfoil hat and cod piece. ;D

Just the hat, please...

Uh...yeah...agreed! :hidingeyes:

You are such a liar.

 

[Genevieve]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

I don't understand why it's important to you. Kangaroos aren't mentioned in the Bible, or monarch butterflies, or poodles.

The Bible is not a comprehensive history; its focus might be considered pretty narrow: it's an account of the interaction between God and His people.

 

[Genevieve]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

Question: Where are the dinosaurs at in the Bible dammit?

Definitive answer: No where.

Next?

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

I don't understand why it's important to you. Kangaroos aren't mentioned in the Bible, or monarch butterflies, or poodles.

The Bible is not a comprehensive history; its focus might be considered pretty narrow: it's an account of the interaction between God and His people.

But all those things still roam the earth!!! All these giant lizards just up and died!!!!! Should I just settle on the scientists answers?

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

Question: Where are the dinosaurs at in the Bible dammit?

Definitive answer: No where.

Next?

Actually, I do believe they mention them in passing but not where they went. Is there a divine plan?

 

[mei lan]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

Refer to the FAITH part. Many things are left without definitive answers, and not just in the Bible. In real life, many things don't have answers, such as what is the cure for cancer. It's just the way things are.

RE: Divine Plan - Jeremiah 29:11 says, "For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope." (New Living Translation)

 

[Genevieve]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

I don't understand why it's important to you. Kangaroos aren't mentioned in the Bible, or monarch butterflies, or poodles.

The Bible is not a comprehensive history; its focus might be considered pretty narrow: it's an account of the interaction between God and His people.

But all those things still roam the earth!!! All these giant lizards just up and died!!!!! Should I just settle on the scientists answers?

If you want to, yes.

 

[naturegirl]

I'm thinking the hardest part might be figuring out how old the Earth really is. If dinosaurs roamed for millions of years why did it take so long for man to appear?? Did God create dinosaurs first??

I'm thinking the answers lie in your heart not in a book. Many things that are written in the bible have been confirmed by archeologists. While the bible is a Holy book, it is still a book and deals with Man's relationship with God.

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

Refer to the FAITH part. Many things are left without definitive answers, and not just in the Bible. In real life, many things don't have answers, such as what is the cure for cancer. It's just the way things are.

RE: Divine Plan - Jeremiah 29:11 says, "For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope." (New Living Translation)

If God has a divine plan for everyone, then why bother praying? He already has everything planned out.

 

[Genevieve]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

Question: Where are the dinosaurs at in the Bible dammit?

Definitive answer: No where.

Next?

Actually, I do believe they mention them in passing but not where they went. Is there a divine plan?

Do you mean the Leviathan? It says in Psalm 74 that, "It was you who crushed the heads of Leviathan and gave it as food to the creatures of the desert." ...and of course there is a Divine Plan!

 

[mei lan]

RE: Divine Plan - Jeremiah 29:11 says, "For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope." (New Living Translation)

If God has a divine plan for everyone, then why bother praying? He already has everything planned out.

You talk to your wife, don't you? And your mother? Why wouldn't you talk to God (if you believed)? That's all prayer is...talking to Someone you love and trust.

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Y'all make me sound like a damn heathen!!! I said I almost believed. Its just that nobody has ever been ever to answer my questions. When I do question them, they get all pissy like PCO did!! Where are the dinosaurs at in the bible dammit!!! Or were they a NEWSJUNKPCO government conspiracy too?

I keep tellin' y'all - it's HEATHERN. And there's lots of things not in the Bible. Volkswagens aren't in the Bible, for instance. But if you mean in the distant past only, then things like the Ice Age and other ancient goings-on aren't mentioned, either. I don't think the Bible was meant to be an all-encompassing historical document.

Is that the only reason you don't believe, or are there more reasons?

There are more reasons but lets be honest, the whole dinosaur thing was a pretty big deal. These giants roamed the earth, science has proved that. Then, they all died!!! More questions to come.

Agreed. I just don't see how that not being in the Bible has anything to do with whether or not the Bible is true. After all, according to dictionary.com, faith is

faith
[feyth] ? Origin
faith
? ?[feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

The second article IF referenced is quite interesting re: the dinosaur problem. Also, and apropos of nothing, this discussion made me think of the Giant Monitor Lizards (aka Komodo Dragons). 10' long, 4' tall, and eat men and goats. GAH!!!

Ok, once again, question left without a definitive answer. No biggie. Is there really a "Divine Plan"?

Question: Where are the dinosaurs at in the Bible dammit?

Definitive answer: No where.

Next?

Actually, I do believe they mention them in passing but not where they went. Is there a divine plan?

Do you mean the Leviathan? It says in Psalm 74 that, "It was you who crushed the heads of Leviathan and gave it as food to the creatures of the desert."

Sure, we can go on that one.

 

[Guard Dad]

Just to chime in here...

A lot of people try to use science to disprove the Bible and vice-versa. I do neither. I am a Christian, and I am a man of science.

One saying I like..."Science tells us how and the Bible tells us Why"

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

RE: Divine Plan - Jeremiah 29:11 says, "For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope." (New Living Translation)

If God has a divine plan for everyone, then why bother praying? He already has everything planned out.

You talk to your wife, don't you? And your mother? Why wouldn't you talk to God (if you believed)? That's all prayer is...talking to Someone you love and trust.

No no no. Just talking is something completely different than praying. Praying is asking for something, "Cure this person", "Bless this person", "Help me find a new job". Why ask for these things if God has it all planned out for you already?

 

[BeatBoxinGranny47]

Just to chime in here...

A lot of people try to use science to disprove the Bible and vice-versa. I do neither. I am a Christian, and I am a man of science.

One saying I like..."Science tells us how and the Bible tells us Why"

I like that!!