Teacher posted FB picture of kids with duct tape

unionmom said:
All of the other examples that you gave are school sanctioned and the pictures are reviewed. I just think that a teacher putting the kids on her own personal page is crossing the line ... and there are rules about it. If it is going on and nothing has been said it's because the wrong/right people haven't seen it yet. And I do know that there are a lot of lines that get crossed and in the grand scheme of things this is small fish but that doesn't mean that it doesn't still cause a problem for me. Her personal FB ... that's where the problem is for me.

No ma'am. They are all not.

So if she has a personal album she can't put it in there and pass it around to her friends? They saw it because one of her friends said something. What is the difference in a private online album and a private old fashioned album? Same people saw the picture.
 
LisaC said:
The kidding around doesn't bother me. It's the fact that this teacher posted pictures of a child that is not hers on her personal Facebook page. I can honestly tell you that if the princess's teacher did that, I would be livid. Now, if I had signed a release with the school and they were posted on the school page, that's a different story.

It's like an echo in here ... love it. This is exactly where I am.
 
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
naturegirl said:
unionmom said:
Her putting it on FB is the error and a big one at that. If they had all been goofing around and the kids took the picture and posted it I would think the teacher perhaps let them goof off a bit but that would be the only thing I would think. Teachers have a higher standard (at least in most areas that I'm familiar with) that they have to follow. Here, in VA, MD, DC, etc. The duct tape is a non-issue to me ... the kids goofing around is a non-issue to me ... the total lack of good judgement on the teacher's part and her deciding to put the kids on her personal FB, that's where the issue is for me.

Obviously you have a problem with the picture, I can see that. Can I ask, (without sounding stupid) what harm can come from her posting a picture of her students with duct tape on their mouth. Duct tape they put there themselves. I'm just not sure I see the problem. Help me understand.

Like I said ... I don't give a rat's patootie (is that a real word?? :)) ) about the content of the picture beyond it being 11, 12, or 13 year old kids who are being posted on her personal FB account. They are not participating in a school sponsored activity so the photo releases that parents may have signed at the beginning of the year do not apply. There is a very specific code of conduct that teachers must follow and this is not part of that. It concerns me when FB becomes so important to somebody in such a role that they let their judgement fade because of it. I don't care that they were goofy around and having some fun. She just crossed the line when she placed the picture on her personal FB. Here's another thing ... those students are likely under age to have a FB account so how does someone who is not their guardian have the right to post their image there?

I think this one comes down to two things for me. 1.) FB and 2.) Too many teachers in the news in the last few years over really crappy judgement involving kids that aren't their own.

:dunno Did she tag the students? Otherwise they were just pictures on a private page. She did not even have them on an open page where anyone could see them. Newspapers take pictures of kids (groups) in classrooms. Teachers and Media specialist take them of students at fairs and post them on school FB pages, websites, etc. I would not like it if she personally tagged them, but if my child was in the picture, was friends with her, saw it and tagged himself I would not think twice. This is a weird story. (and I can tell you this same type of thing happens here and I have not heard a peep from anyone)


It is a weird story and it has been blown out of proportion. But, I also think that if someone I knew and trusted were posting pictures of my child without my permission, I wouldn't be happy.
 
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
All of the other examples that you gave are school sanctioned and the pictures are reviewed. I just think that a teacher putting the kids on her own personal page is crossing the line ... and there are rules about it. If it is going on and nothing has been said it's because the wrong/right people haven't seen it yet. And I do know that there are a lot of lines that get crossed and in the grand scheme of things this is small fish but that doesn't mean that it doesn't still cause a problem for me. Her personal FB ... that's where the problem is for me.

No ma'am. They are all not.

So if she has a personal album she can't put it in there and pass it around to her friends? They saw it because one of her friends said something. What is the difference in a private online album and a private old fashioned album? Same people saw the picture.

In theory the school sanctioned events photos are reviewed prior to use.

And the online album is most definitely not the same thing as a hard copy album for the very reason we are seeing here ... people who aren't intended to see the pictures can end up seeing them.
 
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.
 
LisaC said:
The kidding around doesn't bother me. It's the fact that this teacher posted pictures of a child that is not hers on her personal Facebook page. I can honestly tell you that if the princess's teacher did that, I would be livid. Now, if I had signed a release with the school and they were posted on the school page, that's a different story.

The school web page or school fb page is open to all. The teacher's page is private. What am I missing?
This is a teacher that obviously lets her kids have fun in class snapped a picture for the memory and posted it her private online album.

I get the open places, like here, but not the private. :dunno
 
Please help me understand why you would be unhappy?? What harm can it bring you or your child?? Please help me understand, I am truly oblivious as to why this is a problem.

My son was photographed at Parent's Day Out in Dallas when he was two, I was thrilled to see his pic in the Dallas New Era.
 
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
All of the other examples that you gave are school sanctioned and the pictures are reviewed. I just think that a teacher putting the kids on her own personal page is crossing the line ... and there are rules about it. If it is going on and nothing has been said it's because the wrong/right people haven't seen it yet. And I do know that there are a lot of lines that get crossed and in the grand scheme of things this is small fish but that doesn't mean that it doesn't still cause a problem for me. Her personal FB ... that's where the problem is for me.

No ma'am. They are all not.

So if she has a personal album she can't put it in there and pass it around to her friends? They saw it because one of her friends said something. What is the difference in a private online album and a private old fashioned album? Same people saw the picture.

In theory the school sanctioned events photos are reviewed prior to use.

And the online album is most definitely not the same thing as a hard copy album for the very reason we are seeing here ... people who aren't intended to see the pictures can end up seeing them.
A friend saw it, one she allowed to see it. That friend decided not to be such a good friend and went to the principal.
 
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
All of the other examples that you gave are school sanctioned and the pictures are reviewed. I just think that a teacher putting the kids on her own personal page is crossing the line ... and there are rules about it. If it is going on and nothing has been said it's because the wrong/right people haven't seen it yet. And I do know that there are a lot of lines that get crossed and in the grand scheme of things this is small fish but that doesn't mean that it doesn't still cause a problem for me. Her personal FB ... that's where the problem is for me.

No ma'am. They are all not.

So if she has a personal album she can't put it in there and pass it around to her friends? They saw it because one of her friends said something. What is the difference in a private online album and a private old fashioned album? Same people saw the picture.

In theory the school sanctioned events photos are reviewed prior to use.

And the online album is most definitely not the same thing as a hard copy album for the very reason we are seeing here ... people who aren't intended to see the pictures can end up seeing them.

What theory?
 
naturegirl said:
Please help me understand why you would be unhappy?? What harm can it bring you or your child?? Please help me understand, I am truly oblivious as to why this is a problem.

My son was photographed at Parent's Day Out in Dallas when he was two, I was thrilled to see his pic in the Dallas New Era.


For me, it is the fact that she has the image and is sharing it without parental consent and sharing it in a way that the school or parents had no control of the image or how it was being shared.
 
unionmom said:
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.

LOL. We will never agree with this. A private album online or a private album she holds and passes around to the same friends...I do not see the difference.

I do understand privacy and would not have wanted her to identify my child specifically even with her friends.
 
LisaC said:
naturegirl said:
Please help me understand why you would be unhappy?? What harm can it bring you or your child?? Please help me understand, I am truly oblivious as to why this is a problem.

My son was photographed at Parent's Day Out in Dallas when he was two, I was thrilled to see his pic in the Dallas New Era.


For me, it is the fact that she has the image and is sharing it without parental consent and sharing it in a way that the school or parents had no control of the image or how it was being shared.

OK so you're saying you want control of where and when your child's pictures are published. I understand that. But help me understand how publishing photos hurts you or your child. I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to understand the harm.

I can't wrap my head around this.
 
LisaC said:
naturegirl said:
Please help me understand why you would be unhappy?? What harm can it bring you or your child?? Please help me understand, I am truly oblivious as to why this is a problem.

My son was photographed at Parent's Day Out in Dallas when he was two, I was thrilled to see his pic in the Dallas New Era.


For me, it is the fact that she has the image and is sharing it without parental consent and sharing it in a way that the school or parents had no control of the image or how it was being shared.

So you are saying no pictures? That would make sense and I could agree to that train of thought. You want none of your daughter to be taken except for a specific event that you have approved?
 
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.

LOL. We will never agree with this. A private album online or a private album she holds and passes around to the same friends...I do not see the difference.

I do understand privacy and would not have wanted her to identify my child specifically even with her friends.

Unless somebody steals the photo album from the teacher's house, how would they get copies of the picture(s) and then be able to share wherever they want?
 
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.

LOL. We will never agree with this. A private album online or a private album she holds and passes around to the same friends...I do not see the difference.

I do understand privacy and would not have wanted her to identify my child specifically even with her friends.

Unless somebody steals the photo album from the teacher's house, how would they get copies of the picture(s) and then be able to share wherever they want?

Okay I think you left a point out. :lightbulbhere: You are saying any one of the teachers friends could copy it (download) it and then use it for something. Am I right?
 
naturegirl said:
LisaC said:
naturegirl said:
Please help me understand why you would be unhappy?? What harm can it bring you or your child?? Please help me understand, I am truly oblivious as to why this is a problem.

My son was photographed at Parent's Day Out in Dallas when he was two, I was thrilled to see his pic in the Dallas New Era.


For me, it is the fact that she has the image and is sharing it without parental consent and sharing it in a way that the school or parents had no control of the image or how it was being shared.

OK so you're saying you want control of where and when your child's pictures are published. I understand that. But help me understand how publishing photos hurts you or your child. I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just trying to understand the harm.

I can't wrap my head around this.


The one situation I can point to is a case where someone I know was the victim of abuse and she goes out of her way to make sure that no images of her or her children are posted online. Another would be concern about who sees the picture - creepy people are everywhere - parents need to know what images of their kids are out there. Another - a teacher is in an influential position with her students and she has to be careful not to show any indication of any improper conduct - kids in duct tape can easily be misconstrued.
 
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.

LOL. We will never agree with this. A private album online or a private album she holds and passes around to the same friends...I do not see the difference.

I do understand privacy and would not have wanted her to identify my child specifically even with her friends.

Unless somebody steals the photo album from the teacher's house, how would they get copies of the picture(s) and then be able to share wherever they want?

Okay I think you left a point out. :lightbulbhere: You are saying any one of the teachers friends could copy it (download) it and then use it for something. Am I right?


Or, in some cases, just hit the "share" button on FB.
 
LisaC said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.

LOL. We will never agree with this. A private album online or a private album she holds and passes around to the same friends...I do not see the difference.

I do understand privacy and would not have wanted her to identify my child specifically even with her friends.

Unless somebody steals the photo album from the teacher's house, how would they get copies of the picture(s) and then be able to share wherever they want?

Okay I think you left a point out. :lightbulbhere: You are saying any one of the teachers friends could copy it (download) it and then use it for something. Am I right?


Or, in some cases, just hit the "share" button on FB.

Okay I can see more concern now. I just could not between a private paper and private online album because either way they (her friends) were seeing the picture.
 
ShoeDiva said:
LisaC said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
If this is the only thing she has done wrong she should not lose her job. She should be reminded of her position and the accepted standards of behavior and student privacy protection and move on.

LOL. We will never agree with this. A private album online or a private album she holds and passes around to the same friends...I do not see the difference.

I do understand privacy and would not have wanted her to identify my child specifically even with her friends.

Unless somebody steals the photo album from the teacher's house, how would they get copies of the picture(s) and then be able to share wherever they want?

Okay I think you left a point out. :lightbulbhere: You are saying any one of the teachers friends could copy it (download) it and then use it for something. Am I right?


Or, in some cases, just hit the "share" button on FB.

Okay I can see more concern now. I just could not between a private paper and private online album because either way they (her friends) were seeing the picture.


Nothing is really private on the Internet...
 
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