Teacher posted FB picture of kids with duct tape

LisaC

LisaC

I'm here to spin the moral compass.
Oh, that's nothing. Our ex wife threatened the kids at youngest son's school, when his iPhone was stolen, on Facebook. Yeah, she's still wearing a badge. :faint
 
STUPIDNESS

lawd have mercy

what is up with teachers now and days...can we go back to leave it to beaver now
 
On the plus side, maybe this will get her out of the classroom before she begins a sexual relationship with one of her students.
 
After reading this thread, I expected an article about a teacher restraining students or doing something creepy. Instead, it's a bunch of middle school kids goofing around. It sounds to me like the whole thing was blown way out of proportion. A picture of a group of middle school kids who put a piece of duct tape over their mouths is not the first step to having sex with one of them.

There are laws in place about privacy. Some schools have additional policies in place. In a public place, there is no expectation of privacy. That means if a photographer likes the looks of your kids playing in the park, he can take pictures. There are actually websites out there devoted to this. (They cater to a certain type of person, but do nothing against the law.) There are legal limits to the use of the pictures. If they are displayed or sold as news or just as a picture, there is no problem. If they are used commercially, for example as an advertisement for a merry-go-round, the photographer would need a release from the parents of every identifiable child in the picture.

Inside the classroom is a gray area. It's not exactly public, but not exactly private either. Absent a district policy, there is no legal guidance, especially with older students. Usually those cases come down to intent when they come to court.

By the way, I was amused by this comment from the board president:

"Why was there duct tape in the classroom? How did they [the students] come to have access to it," said Haas. "We'll have these answers to these questions later."
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And, in the real world, pedophiles usually target opportunity. They might visit the websites I mentioned earlier. However, if they act, the most common target is family. That means limiting pictures to family does not adequately protect the child. Overall, they target availability: neighbor children, children they have power over, etc. Worse, a pedophile is usually not a creepy freak hiding in the bushes. Usually pedophiles come as a huge shock. They are people the parents like and trust. This is anecdotal evidence, but a friend of mine who spent a few years working with pedophiles who were incarcerated in Bismarck was shocked at how charming they were. They would have to be or they won't get the access they need.

Kidnap cases are actually down. It's actually safer to be a kid now in this era of internet and Facebook than it was when I was a kid in the late 1970s and 1980s. The perception is that the world has grown more dangerous, but reality is quite different.
 
She showed a VERY clear lack of judgement. Sure, the sex with one of her students comment was a giant leap but she absolutely was wrong. The kids put the tape on their own mouths but wth was she thinking taking a picture and then posting it on FB? I would be furious if my child's teacher did that. My son was 11 for most of his first year of middle school ... surely you don't suggest that actions and the potential recourse are fully understood at that age? And surely you don't suggest that in a place where his own parents are not permitted is a place where he should have to worry about public exposure. Absolutely no way, no how should she have taken the picture or posted it. Period.
 
I agree with Waski, I think it's being blown way out of proportion. They were goofing off and playing with duct tape. Personally in middle school I would have thought it was cool the teacher was laughing with us. I can think of a lot worse things a teacher can do than take a picture of their students having some fun.

You should see the pics my son has of what they did to the Band Director's car in Middle School, she let them. Biggest difference is she didn't post it on FB.

While probably not the brightest thing, there was no harmful intent. Is it worth her losing her teaching credentials??
 
Her putting it on FB is the error and a big one at that. If they had all been goofing around and the kids took the picture and posted it I would think the teacher perhaps let them goof off a bit but that would be the only thing I would think. Teachers have a higher standard (at least in most areas that I'm familiar with) that they have to follow. Here, in VA, MD, DC, etc. The duct tape is a non-issue to me ... the kids goofing around is a non-issue to me ... the total lack of good judgement on the teacher's part and her deciding to put the kids on her personal FB, that's where the issue is for me.
 
unionmom said:
Her putting it on FB is the error and a big one at that. If they had all been goofing around and the kids took the picture and posted it I would think the teacher perhaps let them goof off a bit but that would be the only thing I would think. Teachers have a higher standard (at least in most areas that I'm familiar with) that they have to follow. Here, in VA, MD, DC, etc. The duct tape is a non-issue to me ... the kids goofing around is a non-issue to me ... the total lack of good judgement on the teacher's part and her deciding to put the kids on her personal FB, that's where the issue is for me.
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Obviously you have a problem with the picture, I can see that. Can I ask, (without sounding stupid) what harm can come from her posting a picture of her students with duct tape on their mouth. Duct tape they put there themselves. I'm just not sure I see the problem. Help me understand.
 
naturegirl said:
unionmom said:
Her putting it on FB is the error and a big one at that. If they had all been goofing around and the kids took the picture and posted it I would think the teacher perhaps let them goof off a bit but that would be the only thing I would think. Teachers have a higher standard (at least in most areas that I'm familiar with) that they have to follow. Here, in VA, MD, DC, etc. The duct tape is a non-issue to me ... the kids goofing around is a non-issue to me ... the total lack of good judgement on the teacher's part and her deciding to put the kids on her personal FB, that's where the issue is for me.
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Obviously you have a problem with the picture, I can see that. Can I ask, (without sounding stupid) what harm can come from her posting a picture of her students with duct tape on their mouth. Duct tape they put there themselves. I'm just not sure I see the problem. Help me understand.
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Like I said ... I don't give a rat's patootie (is that a real word?? :)) ) about the content of the picture beyond it being 11, 12, or 13 year old kids who are being posted on her personal FB account. They are not participating in a school sponsored activity so the photo releases that parents may have signed at the beginning of the year do not apply. There is a very specific code of conduct that teachers must follow and this is not part of that. It concerns me when FB becomes so important to somebody in such a role that they let their judgement fade because of it. I don't care that they were goofy around and having some fun. She just crossed the line when she placed the picture on her personal FB. Here's another thing ... those students are likely under age to have a FB account so how does someone who is not their guardian have the right to post their image there?

I think this one comes down to two things for me. 1.) FB and 2.) Too many teachers in the news in the last few years over really crappy judgement involving kids that aren't their own.
 
I can totally see middle schoolers taking the idea of duct tape and thinking it was so funny to use it on all their mouths. :laugh :thumbsup

That age loves to be silly.

They are always asking for tape or the stapler to "fix" their binder (usually scotch tape. - Try to explain to an 11 year old why that will not be successful! ::) ) Smart teacher to have duct tape...

I see the conflict that she posted the picture on Facebook ... however, I don't think she should lose her job over it. Take it down and put it in the yearbook.

It would have been much better if she gave it to the School Year Book Committee and put it in this year’s yearbook. That would have been fun for these kids to tell their kids about and show the picture in about 20 years! :dunno
 
Far West said:
I can totally see middle schoolers taking the idea of duct tape and thinking it was so funny to use it on all their mouths. :laugh :thumbsup

That age loves to be silly.

They are always asking for tape or the stapler to "fix" their binder (usually scotch tape. - Try to explain to an 11 year old why that will not be successful! ::) ) Smart teacher to have duct tape...

I see the conflict that she posted the picture on Facebook ... however, I don't think she should lose her job over it. Take it down and put it in the yearbook.

It would have been much better if she gave it to the School Year Book Committee and put it in this year’s yearbook. That would have been fun for these kids to tell their kids about and show the picture in about 20 years! :dunno
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Totally agree. FANTASTIC yearbook picture.

Does NOT belong on her personal FB page.
 
unionmom said:
naturegirl said:
unionmom said:
Her putting it on FB is the error and a big one at that. If they had all been goofing around and the kids took the picture and posted it I would think the teacher perhaps let them goof off a bit but that would be the only thing I would think. Teachers have a higher standard (at least in most areas that I'm familiar with) that they have to follow. Here, in VA, MD, DC, etc. The duct tape is a non-issue to me ... the kids goofing around is a non-issue to me ... the total lack of good judgement on the teacher's part and her deciding to put the kids on her personal FB, that's where the issue is for me.
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Obviously you have a problem with the picture, I can see that. Can I ask, (without sounding stupid) what harm can come from her posting a picture of her students with duct tape on their mouth. Duct tape they put there themselves. I'm just not sure I see the problem. Help me understand.
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Like I said ... I don't give a rat's patootie (is that a real word?? :)) ) about the content of the picture beyond it being 11, 12, or 13 year old kids who are being posted on her personal FB account. They are not participating in a school sponsored activity so the photo releases that parents may have signed at the beginning of the year do not apply. There is a very specific code of conduct that teachers must follow and this is not part of that. It concerns me when FB becomes so important to somebody in such a role that they let their judgement fade because of it. I don't care that they were goofy around and having some fun. She just crossed the line when she placed the picture on her personal FB. Here's another thing ... those students are likely under age to have a FB account so how does someone who is not their guardian have the right to post their image there?

I think this one comes down to two things for me. 1.) FB and 2.) Too many teachers in the news in the last few years over really crappy judgement involving kids that aren't their own.
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:dunno Did she tag the students? Otherwise they were just pictures on a private page. She did not even have them on an open page where anyone could see them. Newspapers take pictures of kids (groups) in classrooms. Teachers and Media specialist take them of students at fairs and post them on school FB pages, websites, etc. I would not like it if she personally tagged them, but if my child was in the picture, was friends with her, saw it and tagged himself I would not think twice. This is a weird story. (and I can tell you this same type of thing happens here and I have not heard a peep from anyone)
 
All of the other examples that you gave are school sanctioned and the pictures are reviewed. I just think that a teacher putting the kids on her own personal page is crossing the line ... and there are rules about it. If it is going on and nothing has been said it's because the wrong/right people haven't seen it yet. And I do know that there are a lot of lines that get crossed and in the grand scheme of things this is small fish but that doesn't mean that it doesn't still cause a problem for me. Her personal FB ... that's where the problem is for me.
 
The kidding around doesn't bother me. It's the fact that this teacher posted pictures of a child that is not hers on her personal Facebook page. I can honestly tell you that if the princess's teacher did that, I would be livid. Now, if I had signed a release with the school and they were posted on the school page, that's a different story.
 
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