Paranormal in Paulding

[rolltidega]

I have been chatting with the Paulding Paranormal folks since they joined and I was definitely wrong in assuming that they were a closed group or one that is territorial. I assumed that from trying to contact them in the past and not hearing from any one. That has changed since I have been able to chat with their founder today. Seems like a great guy and I look forward to chatting with him more about the paranormal.

 

[rolltidega]

I mean to post this earlier in response to what a ghost is. I have always been torn as to exactly what a ghost is. Being a Christian I know what is supposed to happen when we die, yet I also know that ghosts were mentioned in the Bible. I dont know if I will ever understand fully what a ghost really is but I do know there is a lot that we are unsure of in this world. Lots of stuff we cannot explain. I dont believe all of that is demon related by any means. Some stuff we likely create on our own. The danger is letting the search for the unexplained lead you into dark things like witchcraft or Ouija boards and stuff like that. I do go into investigations with a prayer for protection before starting just in case there is something there that may want to hurt me, thus the demonic aspect. I have been fortunate to have not experienced anything at that level but I am not nieve enough to think it does not exist. Anyway, at least you know how I feel about it.

 

[Guard Dad]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

 

[ShoeDiva]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

 

[deewee]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Exactamundo! :CLAP

 

[Guard Dad]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

I don't think that's what he said at all

 

[ShoeDiva]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

I don't think that's what he said at all

Okay then, what did he say and what do you think? He wrote "the bible is clear on that. What I believe is they are demons posing" so.......I ask, are there no spirits? Only demons posing as spirits of loved ones or characters of the past? I am confused to what you guys are saying.

 

[Guard Dad]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

I don't think that's what he said at all

Okay then, what did he say and what do you think? He wrote "the bible is clear on that. What I believe is they are demons posing" so.......I ask, are there no spirits? Only demons posing as spirits of loved ones or characters of the past? I am confused to what you guys are saying.

Let's let BS answer

 

[ShoeDiva]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

I don't think that's what he said at all

Okay then, what did he say and what do you think? He wrote "the bible is clear on that. What I believe is they are demons posing" so.......I ask, are there no spirits? Only demons posing as spirits of loved ones or characters of the past? I am confused to what you guys are saying.

Let's let BS answer

But I asked you too! ;D (Since you said it was well stated, I wanted your thoughts also. The "you guys". ) You do not have to answer for him... just your thoughts.)

 

[naturegirl]

I mean to post this earlier in response to what a ghost is. I have always been torn as to exactly what a ghost is. Being a Christian I know what is supposed to happen when we die, yet I also know that ghosts were mentioned in the Bible. I dont know if I will ever understand fully what a ghost really is but I do know there is a lot that we are unsure of in this world. Lots of stuff we cannot explain. I dont believe all of that is demon related by any means. Some stuff we likely create on our own. The danger is letting the search for the unexplained lead you into dark things like witchcraft or Ouija boards and stuff like that. I do go into investigations with a prayer for protection before starting just in case there is something there that may want to hurt me, thus the demonic aspect. I have been fortunate to have not experienced anything at that level but I am not nieve enough to think it does not exist. Anyway, at least you know how I feel about it.

See I understand this. I do believe residual energy is left behind, when we move, when we go out of town, when we die. Kind of like a time warp, it's there always. Now those things that are evil, I will agree with BS on that......they are demons of the Devil. There to make us believe they are someone else. So there are ghosts, residual energy left by those before us. Not spirits in the sense that they are intelligent but what may be left of our time here.

Black stuff, evil entities are a different subject altogether. They are here, they exist and they can puncture our world making us believe they are someone we miss so much. They can manipulate you into believing something that isn't.

 

[stradial]

My grandfather's "ghost" has caused a little confusion with my mother.
She doesn't believe that the bible allows for my grandfather's "ghost" to be "haunting" his house, but then again, she does believe the story that my cousin's son told my uncle.
I will give my mother a lot of credit, she has handled it by saying, "The're a lot of things we just don't understand."
That is a huge step for her, just to say, 'I don't understand everything that happens, but I still believe in the bible, even though I can't reconcile this particular event with the bible'.

 

[LisaC]

As someone who experiences very vivid night terrors that involve people that aren't really there, I do believe a demonic aspect exists.

 

[stradial]

Do I believe in demons?
Believe in them? Heck I was married to one!

 

[ShoeDiva]

Do I believe in demons?
Believe in them? Heck I was married to one!

)

I have no doubt there are demons, I just do not think every spirit, ghost, energy, which ever word we use, is evil.

 

[J-man]

:thumbsup

I have been chatting with the Paulding Paranormal folks since they joined and I was definitely wrong in assuming that they were a closed group or one that is territorial. I assumed that from trying to contact them in the past and not hearing from any one. That has changed since I have been able to chat with their founder today. Seems like a great guy and I look forward to chatting with him more about the paranormal.

Glad it got worked out, I could sense the tension. People are people, sometimes we're wrong, sometimes we draw conclusions with what information is available to us.

 

[J-man]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

Only those in bottles. :drunkdiva

 

[LisaC]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

Only those in bottles. :drunkdiva

Diva can tell you all you need to know about those...

 

[ShoeDiva]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

Only those in bottles. :drunkdiva

Diva can tell you all you need to know about those...

:angel

 

[Madea]

I think it's really cool that you came here and cleared up some misconceptions.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Re: Paranormal in Paulding

I do not believe in the conventional term ghost as it refers to someone's spirit still residing on earth. The Bible is clear on that. What I believe them to be are demons posing as loved ones or characters in the past. They will do anything to distort God's word. As far as that John Edwards crossing over crap, well demon possession can also lend information to what you want to hear. So, can there be paranormal experiences out there? Yep but understanding them starts with knowing exactly what they are.

Well stated. :CLAP

? GD or BS neither of you believe in spirits? I am not speaking of having anything to do with the occult, but ghosts (spirits). I remember spirits in the bible.... (I believe rolltide mentioned they were there too)

The bible uses the word "spirit" in several ways. The obvious one is the Holy Spirit. I think we all can agree when it's being used. We all have a spirit. After death, the bible states we are immediately in heaven or hell. The other term spirit is used when describing evil beings or demons. There are many examples in the old and new testament. Now the term ghost, depending on translations, is used sparingly. I Samuel has a reference to a ghost posing as Samuel himself to king Saul. Many scholars rebuke it being Samuel since it "came up" our of the ground. Some feel the apparition was God himself but unlikely because the prophecy of the "spirit" wasn't completely true therefore by default, wasn't of God. Another popular ghost reference was to Jesus while walking on water. The disciples thought Jesus was a ghost walking on water. He rebuked them saying "a ghost doesn't have bones and flesh, but I do". Now he wasn't given credence to ghosts by comparing himself but instead, he was using their perceptions of ghosts to prove them wrong. Luke chapter 16 is just one area that confirms to believers that spirits of dead people do not inhabit the earth and they reside either in heaven or hell. As for "other spirits" or demons mentioned in scripture, they are usually possessing the bodies of people and must obey those speaking the name of God. There are many scriptures confirming the exiting of spirits from people. Mark chapter 5. There are no references in scripture stating that a person's energy is left behind or that we can contact the dead. Since we know our spirits are only in one of two places, anything we "witness" here of the ghostly nature can only be demons, unclean spirits, or fallen angels. All three are pretty much the same things.