one or both ebola patients en route to emory

I remember when "we don't leave our men behind" used to be a given in this country. No matter what.

Not now, I guess.

Me, me, me, me, me. :sigh:
 
My question is how did these two medical professionals get infected with Ebola when they were taking all the necessary precautions?
 
Boss 302 said:
My question is how did these two medical professionals get infected with Ebola when they were taking all the necessary precautions?

I read (where, I cannot remember, but it's been in the last couple of days) that while the medical personnel were taking proper precautions, the people in the facilities aren't (their native co-workers), and that much of the equipment (hazmat suits, etc.) is way sub-standard.
 
Interesting Ebola experiments :


http://healthmap.org/site/diseasedaily/article/pigs-monkeys-ebola-goes-airborne-112112



stirthepot2
 
72 year old woman dies as she was leaving the plane after it landing at UK from Sierra Leone. Reports allege she was sweating profusely and had been vomiting. Testing her body now for traces of the Ebola virus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051
 
J-man said:
72 year old woman dies as she was leaving the plane after it landing at UK from Sierra Leone. Reports allege she was sweating profusely and had been vomiting. Testing her body now for traces of the Ebola virus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051

From the same article: "The patient’s symptoms suggest that Ebola is very unlikely but as a precaution this is one of the tests being undertaken. The patient was not symptomatic on the plane and therefore there is no risk of Ebola being passed on to either flight crew or other passengers."



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051#ixzz39REDZWpR
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LisaC said:
J-man said:
72 year old woman dies as she was leaving the plane after it landing at UK from Sierra Leone. Reports allege she was sweating profusely and had been vomiting. Testing her body now for traces of the Ebola virus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051

From the same article: "The patient’s symptoms suggest that Ebola is very unlikely but as a precaution this is one of the tests being undertaken. The patient was not symptomatic on the plane and therefore there is no risk of Ebola being passed on to either flight crew or other passengers."



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051#ixzz39REDZWpR
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I'm not saying it Ebola, but you can't say it isn't either. It could be any number of illnesses or heath issues, but try telling anyone on that plane that there's nothing to worry about. I'm sure if anyone of us or one of our loved ones were on that plane the concern level would be greatly increased. It will be interesting to see if there's a follow-up story of the test results.
 
J-man said:
LisaC said:
J-man said:
72 year old woman dies as she was leaving the plane after it landing at UK from Sierra Leone. Reports allege she was sweating profusely and had been vomiting. Testing her body now for traces of the Ebola virus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051

From the same article: "The patient’s symptoms suggest that Ebola is very unlikely but as a precaution this is one of the tests being undertaken. The patient was not symptomatic on the plane and therefore there is no risk of Ebola being passed on to either flight crew or other passengers."



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051#ixzz39REDZWpR
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I'm not saying it Ebola, but you can't say it isn't either. It could be any number of illnesses or heath issues, but try telling anyone on that plane that there's nothing to worry about. I'm sure if anyone of us or one of our loved ones were on that plane the concern level would be greatly increased. It will be interesting to see if there's a follow-up story of the test results.

Trust me, there will be a follow up story and they will beat the theory to death about "what if she did have it."
 
Here is a useful article on the subject.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/30/to-stop-ebola-let-end-another-virus-fear/?intcmp=obnetwork
 
mei lan said:
This is a post I made elsewhere verbatim, and I would like your thoughts as well:

OK, a lot of peeps here I really like are among those freaking out over this. Ambulances transport people with communicable diseases all the time. Ebola ia not easily transmittable - YOU CAN ONLY CATCH IT THROUGH THE EXCHANGE OF BODILY FLUIDS OR EATING THE IMPROPERLY-COOKED MEAT OF AN INFECTED ANIMAL.

Now, considering that we do not drink the blood of our dead, nor eat bat soup, as is the habit in those places where ebola is rampant, nor do we not wash our hands after handling our dead for burial, etc., please give me your version as to how this is going to be a massive epidemic here. Because I'm not seein' it. So I would like to hear your thoughts as to how it would not only transmit from the patients coming in from Africa to Emory, but then to others and become a pandemic.

Before responding, please consider the following article about ebola: http://www.vox.com/2014/7/31/5952515/facts-you-should-know-about-the-ebola-outbreak

Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.
 
Madea said:
Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.

I saw that ... I'm still JSMH...
 
LisaC said:
Madea said:
Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.

I saw that ... I'm still JSMH...

I saw that too and I had another friend post one that makes that one not so scary.
MeiLan made me feel better though. ;D
 
LisaC said:
Madea said:
Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.

I saw that ... I'm still JSMH...

I can't blame the person because I watched Walking Dead. And I read The Stand.

But you maybe should never say, "stay in Africa" in any context. People might take that the wrong way.

I'm not sure I would trust the CDC lately with any major outbreaks. They have been sloppy with the bird flu virus and anthrax. Doesn't make me rest easy...
 
CeeJay said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.

I saw that ... I'm still JSMH...

I can't blame the person because I watched Walking Dead. And I read The Stand.

But you maybe should never say, "stay in Africa" in any context. People might take that the wrong way.

I'm not sure I would trust the CDC lately with any major outbreaks. They have been sloppy with the bird flu virus and anthrax. Doesn't make me rest easy...

How would you feel if you found out you were sitting next to an HIV patient the next time you were in your doctor's office? It could happen, but that doesn't mean you will catch it.
 
LisaC said:
CeeJay said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.

I saw that ... I'm still JSMH...

I can't blame the person because I watched Walking Dead. And I read The Stand.

But you maybe should never say, "stay in Africa" in any context. People might take that the wrong way.

I'm not sure I would trust the CDC lately with any major outbreaks. They have been sloppy with the bird flu virus and anthrax. Doesn't make me rest easy...

How would you feel if you found out you were sitting next to an HIV patient the next time you were in your doctor's office? It could happen, but that doesn't mean you will catch it.
That's on my list of reasons why I very seldom go to the doctor. Risk management.
 
LisaC said:
CeeJay said:
LisaC said:
Madea said:
Here's what a friend posted on Facebook:

This is a disease with NO treatment and no cure. Its contracted through bodily fluids and its pathology is that it liquifies (for lack of a better term) the internal organs and causes a person to bleed profusely from every orrifice. Contact with bodily fluids is a GIGANTIC risk. So, that being said, I want to be NOWHERE near it. Or around anyone thats been near it. It needed to stay in Africa...where it was contained.

I saw that ... I'm still JSMH...

I can't blame the person because I watched Walking Dead. And I read The Stand.

But you maybe should never say, "stay in Africa" in any context. People might take that the wrong way.

I'm not sure I would trust the CDC lately with any major outbreaks. They have been sloppy with the bird flu virus and anthrax. Doesn't make me rest easy...

How would you feel if you found out you were sitting next to an HIV patient the next time you were in your doctor's office? It could happen, but that doesn't mean you will catch it.

Didn't we make a law that they have to wear a scarlet letter identifying themselves?
Ohhh, wait, that was something else wasn't it.
I wish we still have that scarlet letter law, make it easier to tell who was loosy goosy.
Of course, back in my younger days, I would look like a walking stop sing.
(and that is not a good thing)
 
We may never know how they contracted it, but we know for sure that it transmits only through contact with bodily fluids. If you don't intend to change their bedpan, wipe their nose, let them sneeze on you, or give them IV's you will not contract it. The airplane, etc... are out of a rational overabundance of caution. We have these tools to protect the healthcare workers and the public and we should use them as there is no known cure and the only semi-reliable treatment is with a transfusion from a survivor. The real threat of Ebola is not particularly easy transmission, but the lack of a cure for this disease that kills in the most unimaginably horrid way.

There is no reason for a person in Cobb County, Decatur, or Emory Hospital to be worried about contracting the disease from these two patients. The only real threat is to anyone within sneezing distance and anyone who directly contacts the patients. I hope that having them here will not only help them, but will further our understanding of the disease. I think they are freaking heroes for what they did in Africa.
 
Ebola spreads through contact with feces, vomit, or blood. In the US, this kind of contact is unlikely outside the healthcare setting.

There are more serious viruses to worry about such as a flu pandemic. Ebola has scary symptoms, but it is not easy to spread. But, the media like to keep us worked up so they can grab more eyeballs and make more advertising money.

People who like to spread panic are just helping the media out.
 
LisaC said:
How would you feel if you found out you were sitting next to an HIV patient the next time you were in your doctor's office? It could happen, but that doesn't mean you will catch it.

I'm not one of those scared of AIDS people. That last post was in jest. I figured the Walking Dead reference would give it away.
 
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