Muslim countries refuse to take refugees...

[Guard Dad]

...citing concerns of it exposing them to terrorism. And the Dems want them here. Think about that...

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/05/gulf-states-refuse-to-take-a-single-syrian-refugee-say-doing-so-exposes-them-to-risk-of-terrorism/

 

[stradial]

Got to hand it to those refugees, at least they know how to get out of Dodge when trouble is coming'
Perhaps they could teach a few things to the TV looting, waiting for the government to rescue them, people in New Orleans.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Hmmm, so all Muslims are not terrorists? Who would have thought that?







I do see what the complaints are about them not taking them, but I can also see the reality of wanting to keep their people safe.

 

[stradial]

 

[Guard Dad]

Why should we take them when we have our own citizens and even some vets living on the street?

 

[Stellarvore]

They should stand and fight for their homes, rather than run away like cowards. Women and children can be terrorists. They can also pick up the family AK47 and fight for their lives.

Who would accept US refugees? For that matter...what American would run?

 

[honeybunny]

Hmmm, so all Muslims are not terrorists? Who would have thought that?







I do see what the complaints are about them not taking them, but I can also see the reality of wanting to keep their people safe.

"The vast majority of Muslims aren’t terrorists, but in the contemporary world nearly all movements and
ideas that produce political terrorism are birthed in Islamic communities that house mostly peaceful people."


http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/the-crisis-is-islam/

 

[Boss 302]

Why should we take them when we have our own citizens and even some vets living on the street?

We shouldn't take them period as there is no way to properly vett them to ensure none are members of any Islamic extremist group. The government has a constitutional obligation to keep the people of this country safe, yet the left doesn't give a rat's ass about our safety; they have proven that time and time again.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Hmmm, so all Muslims are not terrorists? Who would have thought that?

I do see what the complaints are about them not taking them, but I can also see the reality of wanting to keep their people safe.

"The vast majority of Muslims aren’t terrorists, but in the contemporary world nearly all movements and
ideas that produce political terrorism are birthed in Islamic communities that house mostly peaceful people."


http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/the-crisis-is-islam/

I have not a clue to what your are trying to say or why you have a winking smiley. You do that a lot. Post an article, no thought of your own, and a winking smiley. Just say what you mean, it is much better and than no one will infer (and some time mistaken) what part you are trying to make a statement.
As for my post, the first sentence is fact, the second sentence is sarcasm based on posts that, "if they are Muslims, they are terrorists." (< NOT your posts) The last sentence is an agreement that while you can be compassionate for the refugees plight, you still have a job to keep your people safe. That means while I see that some are complaining about lack of empathy, sympathy, and whatever else, the job of the country is to keep their country safe, sometimes that requires doing things that are not popular. Including not letting refugees in to live there.
*I explained mine just in case you did not know what I meant.

 

[Guard Dad]

I have never thought all Muslims are terrorists. I have had some Muslim friends who were nice people.

But it is my understanding that there actually is some language in the Quaran that, if taken literally, will turn them against us. So I think there is always the potential for them to turn to the dark side. And I have witnessed some Muslims who aren't actual terrorists, but they did sympathize with the terrorists.

Meaning...we need to be very careful. It's just the reality of the situation.

 

[ShoeDiva]

I have never thought all Muslims are terrorists. I have had some Muslim friends who were nice people.

But it is my understanding that there actually is some language in the Quaran that, if taken literally, will turn them against us. So I think there is always the potential for them to turn to the dark side. And I have witnessed some Muslims who aren't actual terrorists, but they did sympathize with the terrorists.

Meaning...we need to be very careful. It's just the reality of the situation.

I did not say you. The language you speak of is also the same issue as with the Bible. It is open for interpretation. Some swear that the killing is based on that time, not now. Others do not and will show the parts that state specifically that killing will keep you out of heaven.
Religion is a hard one. Christianity is steeped in wars and no groups should be lumped together. Of course there are sympathizers for Muslims, as there are for_________________< fill in the blank with any word you would like, there are hundreds you could use.
I do not blame any country for not accepting refugees at this point. (see my post(s) above) It is there job to keep their people safe and if they do not have a way to do that while letting them in, then they do not need to let them in. This includes US.

 

[The Sound Guy]

They should stand and fight for their homes, rather than run away like cowards. Women and children can be terrorists. They can also pick up the family AK47 and fight for their lives.

Who would accept US refugees? For that matter...what American would run?

That's my main concern about this.

If the refugees are allowed to leave, then ISIS builds it strength, expands it's area by invading, creating more refugees, etc. It's a cycle that only ends when *someone* is willing to stand up to them and fight back.

However, we tried helping them to fight for themselves in Afghanistan and Iraq and have found the mindset of the extremists on all sides is such that it doesn't work real well. The average Joe there that we equipped with arms didn't have the dedication of the extremists and many ran rather that defend their countries and way of life. in this group of refugees I see a bunch of young men of fighting age in pictures that have left rather than defend their country and way of life. Sending in weapons that may just end up in ISIL hands doesn't seem to be working.

So if they won't defend themselves in their homeland, what makes us thing they would be of any use in our land?

Us going over there with planes and men on the ground just gives the leaders another recruiting point.

As for the liberal argument that we should "civilize" ISIL by giving them lots of stuff to increase their standard of living so they will reject their religious beliefs just goes to show that most Liberals are atheist and can't understand those who completely put their faith in their religion. You can't buy their rejection of their religion for a few donuts. You might reduce the number of recruits, but most of what you send will be used by the religious leaders as either proof that we fear them or that we are attempting to expand our evil empire into their country. These people have killed heath care workers who are trying to help! Even Saudi, which as a high standard of living from oil money has issues with extremists. I just don't see us winning that way.

Nuking the place to oblivion is a door I don't think we want to open. It will be interesting however to see if the first place Iran uses it's nukes that the president has authorized them

I don't see any valid solution except giving them no option but to fight for themselves.

As for American's running, I don't know if they would run or just be really, really, confused as they are killed by those extremists that they try to appease.

 

[Guard Dad]

 

[honeybunny]

Hmmm, so all Muslims are not terrorists? Who would have thought that?

I do see what the complaints are about them not taking them, but I can also see the reality of wanting to keep their people safe.

"The vast majority of Muslims aren’t terrorists, but in the contemporary world nearly all movements and
ideas that produce political terrorism are birthed in Islamic communities that house mostly peaceful people."


http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/the-crisis-is-islam/

I have not a clue to what your are trying to say or why you have a winking smiley. You do that a lot. Post an article, no thought of your own, and a winking smiley. Just say what you mean, it is much better and than no one will infer (and some time mistaken) what part you are trying to make a statement.
As for my post, the first sentence is fact, the second sentence is sarcasm based on posts that, "if they are Muslims, they are terrorists." (< NOT your posts) The last sentence is an agreement that while you can be compassionate for the refugees plight, you still have a job to keep your people safe. That means while I see that some are complaining about lack of empathy, sympathy, and whatever else, the job of the country is to keep their country safe, sometimes that requires doing things that are not popular. Including not letting refugees in to live there.
*I explained mine just in case you did not know what I meant.

That article (and the very specific passage quoted) conveys my opinion
on the matter rather nicely, thus no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

 

[stradial]

 

[ShoeDiva]

Hmmm, so all Muslims are not terrorists? Who would have thought that?

I do see what the complaints are about them not taking them, but I can also see the reality of wanting to keep their people safe.

"The vast majority of Muslims aren’t terrorists, but in the contemporary world nearly all movements and
ideas that produce political terrorism are birthed in Islamic communities that house mostly peaceful people."

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/the-crisis-is-islam/

I have not a clue to what your are trying to say or why you have a winking smiley. You do that a lot. Post an article, no thought of your own, and a winking smiley. Just say what you mean, it is much better and than no one will infer (and some time mistaken) what part you are trying to make a statement.
As for my post, the first sentence is fact, the second sentence is sarcasm based on posts that, "if they are Muslims, they are terrorists." (< NOT your posts) The last sentence is an agreement that while you can be compassionate for the refugees plight, you still have a job to keep your people safe. That means while I see that some are complaining about lack of empathy, sympathy, and whatever else, the job of the country is to keep their country safe, sometimes that requires doing things that are not popular. Including not letting refugees in to live there.
*I explained mine just in case you did not know what I meant.

That article (and the very specific passage quoted) conveys my opinion
on the matter rather nicely, thus no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

To each their own.
I personally see a message board as interaction between people. Our opinions, thoughts, beliefs. While many things covey my opinion of topics and others opinions, like this :smily-3: I still use my words to convey them and to interact with others. Otherwise all of us could spend the day just posting smiley's, pictures, and articles, and not real interaction, though those things might convey exactly what we are thinking. (Plus the fact I will read what you say, not always an article by someone else and their opinion. ;D )

 

[ShoeDiva]

None of us here have said to allow refugees into countries, or did I miss that?

 

[ShoeDiva]

:Stick ) Funny, but not. I did smile at your though.

 

[Guard Dad]

:Stick ) Funny, but not. I did smile at your though.

As I posted elsewhere...I believe our government is incompetent enough for something like this to happen.

 

[honeybunny]

Hmmm, so all Muslims are not terrorists? Who would have thought that?

I do see what the complaints are about them not taking them, but I can also see the reality of wanting to keep their people safe.

"The vast majority of Muslims aren’t terrorists, but in the contemporary world nearly all movements and
ideas that produce political terrorism are birthed in Islamic communities that house mostly peaceful people."

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/the-crisis-is-islam/

I have not a clue to what your are trying to say or why you have a winking smiley. You do that a lot. Post an article, no thought of your own, and a winking smiley. Just say what you mean, it is much better and than no one will infer (and some time mistaken) what part you are trying to make a statement.
As for my post, the first sentence is fact, the second sentence is sarcasm based on posts that, "if they are Muslims, they are terrorists." (< NOT your posts) The last sentence is an agreement that while you can be compassionate for the refugees plight, you still have a job to keep your people safe. That means while I see that some are complaining about lack of empathy, sympathy, and whatever else, the job of the country is to keep their country safe, sometimes that requires doing things that are not popular. Including not letting refugees in to live there.
*I explained mine just in case you did not know what I meant.

That article (and the very specific passage quoted) conveys my opinion
on the matter rather nicely, thus no need for me to reinvent the wheel.

To each their own.
I personally see a message board as interaction between people. Our opinions, thoughts, beliefs. While many things covey my opinion of topics and others opinions, like this :smily-3: I still use my words to convey them and to interact with others. Otherwise all of us could spend the day just posting smiley's, pictures, and articles, and not real interaction, though those things might convey exactly what we are thinking. (Plus the fact I will read what you say, not always an article by someone else and their opinion. ;D )

I've grown weary of your constant nitpicking.


:neenerbutt