Lake Oconee crime - Warning: Graphic!

[lotstodo]

But the kidnapping doesn't fit.

Sent from a small screen using fat thumbs.

 

[deewee]

But the kidnapping doesn't fit.

Sent from a small screen using fat thumbs.

True. Plus, if it's a hit, they aren't going to want a body to slow them down, or dispose of. They'd want to get in, do the job, and get out.

My gut is that family members, or someone close to the couple, is involved in some way.

 

[mei lan]

But the kidnapping doesn't fit.

Sent from a small screen using fat thumbs.

True. Plus, if it's a hit, they aren't going to want a body to slow them down, or dispose of. They'd want to get in, do the job, and get out.

My gut is that family members, or someone close to the couple, is involved in some way.

It fits if the decapitation was a warning and they wanted the extra insurance of the wife to prompt whoever is involved to cough up the money or whatever. Those morons in NC kidnapped that dude last month and held him here in Atlanta for a bunch of days trying to convince his asst DA daughter to set this criminal free she had prosecuted. Beheadings are beyond common with the cartels, and like Winchester, I think it was probably delivered to the person who got on their bad side. Also, the idiots who tortured the Minneapolis kids released them when they realized they didn't steal the drugs/money, so there is recent precedence for that.

 

[Boss 302]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

 

[Boss 302]

Here's a Mexican drug cartel kidnapping in Chicago.

The reach of Mexican cartels and their operations inside of the U.S. has been widely reported by Breitbart News, however heavily downplayed by numerous agencies under the DOJ umbrella—especially in their documents released to the American public. In fact, this is not the first time the DOJ agency has omitted or obscured a Mexican organization's leadership in major crimes on U.S. soil. One such matter involved a Chicago case Breitbart News broke regarding the kidnapping of a mother and children over Mexican narcotics.

The Chicago kidnapping case involved U.S. gang members in Chicago operating under the orders of a leader residing in Mexico. In that instance, a Mexican cartel’s drugs were stolen and an order came from Mexico via telephone for the mother and children of the alleged thief to be kidnapped at gunpoint. The order was carried out. However, the official press release from the U.S. Attorney’s office did not mention that the narcotics belonged to a Mexican cartel. That detail was buried and only discovered by hours of research into court documents.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/05/07/DOJ-Agency-Omits-Mexican-Cartel-Involvement-In-Alleged-Minnesota-Meth-Kidnapping-Torture-Case

Here's another. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-drug-trafficker-talks-about-mexican-drug-cartels-in-the-united-states/


Here's an article from 2009.

It is no longer just a prospect that America's southern neighbor's the Mexican Drug Cartels are sending hit men (assassins) into this country to kill Americans. It is an alarming development. These Mexican Drug Cartel (MDC's) their gangs are kidnapping and killing citizens on both sides of the U.S. Mexican border. The kidnappings and killings of Americans should be providing an unexpected challenge to President Barack Obama's new government. In its latest report anticipating possible global security risks, the U.S. Joint Forces Command states that Mexico is at risk of a "rapid and sudden collapse."

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/webster/090214

 

[unionmom]

I'm in the group that feels it is a family member behind it.

 

[unionmom]

The family friend has said some things that raise little flags for me, too. He may just be making simply, honest mistakes, etc. based on the emotional stress and such but something doesn't smell right.

 

[mei lan]

What has the family friendsaid? And I ddon't disagree a family member is involved somehow.

 

[Boss 302]

The family friend has said some things that raise little flags for me, too. He may just be making simply, honest mistakes, etc. based on the emotional stress and such but something doesn't smell right.

If you have any links to stories with statements from the family, I'd like to read them please. I find this case most interesting.

 

[mei lan]

The family friend has said some things that raise little flags for me, too. He may just be making simply, honest mistakes, etc. based on the emotional stress and such but something doesn't smell right.

If you have any links to stories with statements from the family, I'd like to read them please. I find this case most interesting.

Me, too!!! I've been scouring the interwebz for updates, but there aren't any right now. CNN had a pretty in-depth piece several days ago, and the Eatonton Messenger (msgr.com) has done some very good work on it for a small paper.

I'm wondering since all is mum if they have some major stuff going on in the background. When that dude was kidnapped in NC a few weeks ago, after the initial story, I heard bupkus except he was still missing. Then the story broke when the FBI rescued him from those morons who were holding him in south Atlanta somewhere.

 

[mei lan]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

Also in AZ...don't have any recent news stories to cite, but I've been hearing about it for at least five years.

 

[Boss 302]

This is a gated community with security guards at the entrance. I have friends who live in communities like this and visitors have to sign in and sign out. I don't know those are the procedures there. This is the only way to access the community by car.

The deceased and his wife lived on a cul de sac. You can access their house from the water in the back. Here's the house.

According to the police, there were no signs of a forced entry or break-in. Usually that leads one to think the victims knew the killers, but that's not always so. They lived in a gated and secure community. It wouldn't be unusual at all if their doorbell rang and they assumed it was a neighbor and opened the door.

It could very well be a family member, but with the community be gated with security guards at the entrance, it would seem security would have logged them in. Usually when you use a gate requiring an access code, each home has their own code and a record is kept when the code was used.

This is very interesting.

 

[Boss 302]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

Also in AZ...don't have any recent news stories to cite, but I've been hearing about it for at least five years.

That's true. My sister lives in the Phoenix area and says it's terrible there.

 

[mei lan]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

Also in AZ...don't have any recent news stories to cite, but I've been hearing about it for at least five years.

That's true. My sister lives in the Phoenix area and says it's terrible there.

Texas is one of my favorite states, and I used to think I'd like to live there someday. No longer. I truly cannot fathom living in a border state. (A southern border state, that is. I'm not sure why, but I don't feel the same qualms about living in a northern border state. )

 

[Boss 302]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

Also in AZ...don't have any recent news stories to cite, but I've been hearing about it for at least five years.

That's true. My sister lives in the Phoenix area and says it's terrible there.

Texas is one of my favorite states, and I used to think I'd like to live there someday. No longer. I truly cannot fathom living in a border state. (A southern border state, that is. I'm not sure why, but I don't feel the same qualms about living in a northern border state. )

I found news stories where Mexican drug cartels have a presence in PA, IL and other northern states. I personally think when we know for sure of the location of a drug cartel leader, we use a UAV and fire a missile on their residence. We need to take a more proactive approach to this problem.

 

[mei lan]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

Also in AZ...don't have any recent news stories to cite, but I've been hearing about it for at least five years.

That's true. My sister lives in the Phoenix area and says it's terrible there.

Texas is one of my favorite states, and I used to think I'd like to live there someday. No longer. I truly cannot fathom living in a border state. (A southern border state, that is. I'm not sure why, but I don't feel the same qualms about living in a northern border state. )

I found news stories where Mexican drug cartels have a presence in PA, IL and other northern states. I personally think when we know for sure of the location of a drug cartel leader, we use a UAV and fire a missile on their residence. We need to take a more proactive approach to this problem.

Agreed, but like that's gonna happen...

 

[Boss 302]

According to the Texas Dept of Public Safety, Mexican drug cartels have been kidnapping people in that state.

Here's an article about how Mexican drug cartels have been operating in the US.
http://rt.com/usa/drug-us-mexican-cartels-177/

Also in AZ...don't have any recent news stories to cite, but I've been hearing about it for at least five years.

That's true. My sister lives in the Phoenix area and says it's terrible there.

Texas is one of my favorite states, and I used to think I'd like to live there someday. No longer. I truly cannot fathom living in a border state. (A southern border state, that is. I'm not sure why, but I don't feel the same qualms about living in a northern border state. )

I found news stories where Mexican drug cartels have a presence in PA, IL and other northern states. I personally think when we know for sure of the location of a drug cartel leader, we use a UAV and fire a missile on their residence. We need to take a more proactive approach to this problem.

Agreed, but like that's gonna happen...

I know.

 

[unionmom]

I need to find the link again. Now I do realize that the media makes mistakes but the issues for me are printed as direct quotes. One of them is in reference to a neighbor of this couple ... she has apparently really amped up her security at her home and this family friend said something about she really needs to get over it. He is also quoted referring to both the man and the missing woman as dead, making some comment along the lines of, "It is awful how they died."

They could be nothing but those comments bother me.

 

[unionmom]

Found it.

...Dermond family friend Len Nelson said he drove to the vigil with the couple’s next door neighbor.
"She's got to get over it, she's just got to get over it security around her home. It’s tough, it’s tough,” Nelson said....

...“So sweet, that's part of the thing that’s tough to grasp -- the horrific nature of how they died,” Nelson said...

link

 

[mei lan]

Holy cow. You're right. :shudder: Kinda makes me want to kick him in the nuts, just on general principles.