Jimmy Carter to give Keynote Speech at Muslim Convention

[ShoeDiva]

Y'all know Jesus associated with some pretty shady folks... I personally think Jesus would love it if more Christians attended Muslim conventions - if we live our lives as the Christians we are supposed to be, we wouldn't have to preach the Sermon on the Mount for folks to know it.

Associated, yes. Condoned or supported, no. And I think him speaking at their convention constitutes the latter.

You know, the Pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning and supporting sin when He ate with them. However, if you read on past where He said "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick," He also said, "that I desire compassion, not sacrifice."

If Jimmy steps away from his Christian beliefs and becomes a Muslim, you can criticize. But just speaking to a group of Muslims doesn't make him one, especially when you don't even know what he is going to say to them.

I can criticize any time I want to. I don't need your permission.

If you and I convert to Islam and proclaim we are gay, we'll never be criticized again. :laugh

Ah....don't think I'm going that far :suntn

Nah, we will find something. )

 

[stradial]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

 

[LisaC]

Y'all know Jesus associated with some pretty shady folks... I personally think Jesus would love it if more Christians attended Muslim conventions - if we live our lives as the Christians we are supposed to be, we wouldn't have to preach the Sermon on the Mount for folks to know it.

Associated, yes. Condoned or supported, no. And I think him speaking at their convention constitutes the latter.

You know, the Pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning and supporting sin when He ate with them. However, if you read on past where He said "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick," He also said, "that I desire compassion, not sacrifice."

If Jimmy steps away from his Christian beliefs and becomes a Muslim, you can criticize. But just speaking to a group of Muslims doesn't make him one, especially when you don't even know what he is going to say to them.

I can criticize any time I want to. I don't need your permission.

If you and I convert to Islam and proclaim we are gay, we'll never be criticized again. :laugh

Ah....don't think I'm going that far :suntn

Don't worry, your faults are not that you are straight and Christian... :whistle

 

[Guard Dad]

Y'all know Jesus associated with some pretty shady folks... I personally think Jesus would love it if more Christians attended Muslim conventions - if we live our lives as the Christians we are supposed to be, we wouldn't have to preach the Sermon on the Mount for folks to know it.

Associated, yes. Condoned or supported, no. And I think him speaking at their convention constitutes the latter.

You know, the Pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning and supporting sin when He ate with them. However, if you read on past where He said "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick," He also said, "that I desire compassion, not sacrifice."

If Jimmy steps away from his Christian beliefs and becomes a Muslim, you can criticize. But just speaking to a group of Muslims doesn't make him one, especially when you don't even know what he is going to say to them.

I can criticize any time I want to. I don't need your permission.

If you and I convert to Islam and proclaim we are gay, we'll never be criticized again. :laugh

Ah....don't think I'm going that far :suntn

Don't worry, your faults are not that you are straight and Christian... :whistle

Wow! Having a bad day?

 

[Grey Colson]

Y'all know Jesus associated with some pretty shady folks... I personally think Jesus would love it if more Christians attended Muslim conventions - if we live our lives as the Christians we are supposed to be, we wouldn't have to preach the Sermon on the Mount for folks to know it.

Associated, yes. Condoned or supported, no. And I think him speaking at their convention constitutes the latter.

You know, the Pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning and supporting sin when He ate with them. However, if you read on past where He said "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick," He also said, "that I desire compassion, not sacrifice."

If Jimmy steps away from his Christian beliefs and becomes a Muslim, you can criticize. But just speaking to a group of Muslims doesn't make him one, especially when you don't even know what he is going to say to them.

I can criticize any time I want to. I don't need your permission.

If you and I convert to Islam and proclaim we are gay, we'll never be criticized again. :laugh

Ah....don't think I'm going that far :suntn

Don't worry, your faults are not that you are straight and Christian... :whistle

What? Me Worry?​

 

[stradial]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

 

[LisaC]

Y'all know Jesus associated with some pretty shady folks... I personally think Jesus would love it if more Christians attended Muslim conventions - if we live our lives as the Christians we are supposed to be, we wouldn't have to preach the Sermon on the Mount for folks to know it.

Associated, yes. Condoned or supported, no. And I think him speaking at their convention constitutes the latter.

You know, the Pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning and supporting sin when He ate with them. However, if you read on past where He said "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick," He also said, "that I desire compassion, not sacrifice."

If Jimmy steps away from his Christian beliefs and becomes a Muslim, you can criticize. But just speaking to a group of Muslims doesn't make him one, especially when you don't even know what he is going to say to them.

I can criticize any time I want to. I don't need your permission.

If you and I convert to Islam and proclaim we are gay, we'll never be criticized again. :laugh

Ah....don't think I'm going that far :suntn

Don't worry, your faults are not that you are straight and Christian... :whistle

Wow! Having a bad day?

Nope, I'm actually have a pretty good day. Am I suddenly not allowed to pick on Colson for being a straight Christian? :dunno

 

[LisaC]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

A goober is a chocolate covered peanut. :tapfoot2 :tapfoot2

 

[Guard Dad]

Y'all know Jesus associated with some pretty shady folks... I personally think Jesus would love it if more Christians attended Muslim conventions - if we live our lives as the Christians we are supposed to be, we wouldn't have to preach the Sermon on the Mount for folks to know it.

Associated, yes. Condoned or supported, no. And I think him speaking at their convention constitutes the latter.

You know, the Pharisees thought that Jesus was condoning and supporting sin when He ate with them. However, if you read on past where He said "It is not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick," He also said, "that I desire compassion, not sacrifice."

If Jimmy steps away from his Christian beliefs and becomes a Muslim, you can criticize. But just speaking to a group of Muslims doesn't make him one, especially when you don't even know what he is going to say to them.

I can criticize any time I want to. I don't need your permission.

If you and I convert to Islam and proclaim we are gay, we'll never be criticized again. :laugh

Ah....don't think I'm going that far :suntn

Don't worry, your faults are not that you are straight and Christian... :whistle

Wow! Having a bad day?

Nope, I'm actually have a pretty good day. Am I suddenly not allowed to pick on Colson for being a straight Christian? :dunno

You just seem like you're trying to pick a fight with both of us in here.

 

[stradial]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

A goober is a chocolate covered peanut. :tapfoot2 :tapfoot2

Now don't you start with me.
No, that is a brand name.
A goober is a peanut, period.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

Did you say something?































:snick_bunny

 

[stradial]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

Did you say something?

Nope, not a thing.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

Did you say something?

Nope, not a thing.

) ) ) I will say I just thought Goober was a brand name.

 

[Boss 302]

Did no one see where I called Jimmy Carter a goober?

goo·ber
?go?ob?r
noun
1. a peanut

A goober...Jimmy Carter...get it? :dunno

Ahhhhhh hummm!!

A goober is a chocolate covered peanut. :tapfoot2 :tapfoot2

Now don't you start with me.
No, that is a brand name.
A goober is a peanut, period.

You are correct. There is even a song about goobers. They used to refer to them as "goober peas."

 

[Guard Dad]

Goober

 

[deewee]

Yeah, this is taught in Christianity.

However, Muslims have strict guidelines to follow and if a Muslim is to follow the guidelines of the Hadiths, the Koran, and Islamic Sharia law completely; then the outcome is obvious to Islamists because this means the implementation of laws which infringe on the rights of non-Muslims and limits the freedom of moderate Muslims.

If we return to Ramadan and why Islamists continue to kill during this so-called holy period then I would state that it is because of the nature of Islam itself.

Mohammed stated to (Koran 9:29) “Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”

Of course apologists or liberals will gloss over this statement and countless others; however, for Islamists or normal Muslim religious leaders in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, and many other nations, they firmly believe that it is their duty to Islamize the nation state and then to spread Islamization and to install a new Islamic caliphate where the nation state is unimportant.

Despite this, in history it is clear that Islam was never united because divisions soon engulfed Islam and early Muslim rulers were often killed by Muslims. However, from the very outset of Islam it was clear that violence was part and parcel of the Muslim faith because Mohammed ordered attacks against Jews and Pagans.

It is clear that Mohammed did not support the concepts of either the Buddha or Jesus. After all, the Buddha and Jesus were not interested about military power or state sanctioned control and they never ordered the killings of others or inflicted violence towards others.

Mohammed, however, states the following:

“O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed.” (Koran, 9:73)

“When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended.” (Koran, 47:4)

“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror.” (Koran, 5:33-34)

“When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah’s word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly.” (Koran, 17:16-17)

“In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost.” (Koran, 8:37)

“How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples.” (Koran, 21:11)

“Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them.” (Koran, 8:12)

Qur’an-(5:51): “O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people. “

Qur’an-(9:5): “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, And seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent (accept Islam) and establish regular prayers and practices regular charity then open the way for them; for God is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.”

I am speaking of all Muslims and in particular the comment that if Carter speaks of Jesus he will lose his head. Again, for the numerous time, all Muslims do not kill, all Christians do not disrespect funerals, all people are not not the same and the broad brush and bias against certain religions or people gets old and reflects more on the person(s) making the statements. There are radicals everywhere and many leaders of Muslim religions do not teach or preach killing.

What happened this past week with radicals is frightening, horrifying and disgusting. Cheap shots at American Muslims and jokes about losing a head are just not appropriate in my opinion because we know that is not going to happen at the conference, but it will happen again in parts of the world, probably sooner than later. I am sick over what a family in America suffered and know happened to their child.

They, Muslims, are all taught the Koran. The very teaching they follow teaches them that beheading non-Muslims is just, fair, and acceptable.

 

[ShoeDiva]

They, Muslims, are all taught the Koran. The very teaching they follow teaches them that beheading non-Muslims is just, fair, and acceptable.

Ugh I typed out 3 paragraphs and my internet went down and it did not post.

Please understand that NOT all are taught that. Just as all are not taught that we literally have to follow all of the old testament. All Christians do not do the same things and all Muslims do not either. I do not know one Muslim that that thinks that beheading is okay. Not one thinks it is just, fair, or acceptable. (and I know Muslims, do you? I am really asking because I think some of the misconceptions and dislike so many have for certain people comes from not really knowing. Just what they know or read. Sometimes that does not paint the whole picture.)
I understand that in certain parts of the world they teach that, but I also understand that not all do. There are theologists and leaders of Muslims that have stated that and made arguments against killings and their take on what is being said. (ha, interpretations :whistle ) I do not have a link off the top of my head, but you can google and find those things if you are truly interested.
I just want people to understand that yes horrifying practices take place and are accepted by Muslims, but the same can be said for others and not all Muslims think that those things are okay.

 

[Grey Colson]

When a group is a small minority in any society, they typically do their own thing, stay pretty much in line with the majority society norms and try to fly under the radar. It only makes sense. But at some point there can be a tipping point if left unchecked. Nothing says these people can't worship as they please and believe as they like, but if we are not cautious and ever vigilant in maintaining OUR way of life, the tide will begin to change as it is already doing in the United Kingdom.

It is my personal position that we squash our temptation of being politically correct and defending this "faith" based on the fact that many muslims in this country seem peaceful. Their numbers are still too small for them to do anything like what is being done overseas. I'll even submit to you that there are many muslims who have NO IDEA what they are getting into, especially the black community. They themselves may even believe it is a means to further liberate blacks because of the likes of Malcom X and screwy Louie Farrakhan. But if we ignore the issue and their numbers continue to grow, this nation will regret it.

I say we actively oppose the teachings of Islam with every fiber of our beings unless we want our great grandchildren to grow up under Sharia Law. Especially our grand daughters. To my total amazement, I can not fathom why (especially liberals in this country) some go out of their way to insist on tolerance of such a faith that degrades women and murders people for not ad-hearing to a religious doctrine.

Just LISTEN to this man. No matter what you think about Hannity, that is NOT what this is about. The only reason you can't find such interviews in the lame stream media is because they ALSO cowtow to these people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ruP76lyZto&feature=player_detailpage

 

[deewee]

They, Muslims, are all taught the Koran. The very teaching they follow teaches them that beheading non-Muslims is just, fair, and acceptable.

Ugh I typed out 3 paragraphs and my internet went down and it did not post.

Please understand that NOT all are taught that. Just as all are not taught that we literally have to follow all of the old testament. All Christians do not do the same things and all Muslims do not either. I do not know one Muslim that that thinks that beheading is okay. Not one thinks it is just, fair, or acceptable. (and I know Muslims, do you? I am really asking because I think some of the misconceptions and dislike so many have for certain people comes from not really knowing. Just what they know or read. Sometimes that does not paint the whole picture.)
I understand that in certain parts of the world they teach that, but I also understand that not all do. There are theologists and leaders of Muslims that have stated that and made arguments against killings and their take on what is being said. (ha, interpretations :whistle ) I do not have a link off the top of my head, but you can google and find those things if you are truly interested.
I just want people to understand that yes horrifying practices take place and are accepted by Muslims, but the same can be said for others and not all Muslims think that those things are okay.

What book do they follow, if not the Koran/Qaran? If they are following another line of teaching, are they indeed Muslim?

 

[ShoeDiva]

They, Muslims, are all taught the Koran. The very teaching they follow teaches them that beheading non-Muslims is just, fair, and acceptable.

Ugh I typed out 3 paragraphs and my internet went down and it did not post.

Please understand that NOT all are taught that. Just as all are not taught that we literally have to follow all of the old testament. All Christians do not do the same things and all Muslims do not either. I do not know one Muslim that that thinks that beheading is okay. Not one thinks it is just, fair, or acceptable. (and I know Muslims, do you? I am really asking because I think some of the misconceptions and dislike so many have for certain people comes from not really knowing. Just what they know or read. Sometimes that does not paint the whole picture.)
I understand that in certain parts of the world they teach that, but I also understand that not all do. There are theologists and leaders of Muslims that have stated that and made arguments against killings and their take on what is being said. (ha, interpretations :whistle ) I do not have a link off the top of my head, but you can google and find those things if you are truly interested.
I just want people to understand that yes horrifying practices take place and are accepted by Muslims, but the same can be said for others and not all Muslims think that those things are okay.

What book do they follow, if not the Koran/Qaran? If they are following another line of teaching, are they indeed Muslim?

They do, but it is not as simple as that. Think my Catholic bible verses yours. Mine is different, yet the same, we have many differences on how we interpret scripture. We have Mary and saints, we confess, we have Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. Does that make more sense in what I am trying to say? )