HGTV show canceled because of hosts\' beliefs

I had to look up what HGTV was.
I thought it was a home shopping channel.
 
I haven't done actual comparisons, but on it's surface, it appears that the number of shows on HGTV featuring gay couples exceeds the national average.
 
Grey Colson said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.

Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.

I just got tired of the crap and moved on.



On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.

It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)

Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue :))

So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?

When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.

Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.

Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.

I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.

Again, I do not see nor have I seen that. You guys keep stating it as fact; "It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious" so let me look up your fact and give me show names. I am willing to do the research and prove YOUR point. ;D
 
Madea said:
I no longer watch HGTV. And I used to be an HGTV addict! In large part because it became House Hunters TV. Food Network is going to lose me too since they are now Guy Fieri TV.

:)) It is House Hunters everywhere! I watch in the middle of the night and the show is always house hunters. (Toss in Island hunters, Alaska, and HH Renovations. :)) ) I figured I just saw those because I am not watching in prime time, just to pass time.
 
Madea said:
I haven't done actual comparisons, but on it's surface, it appears that the number of shows on HGTV featuring gay couples exceeds the national average.

I would agree that we see more gay couples on there than other places, but I do not see 1 gay couple for every 3-4 couples (GD) or 2 of 5 (GC) couples being gay. Do you? (really asking)
 
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.

Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.

I just got tired of the crap and moved on.



On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.

It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)

Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue :))

So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?

When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.

Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.

Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.

I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.

Again, I do not see nor have I seen that. You guys keep stating it as fact; "It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious" so let me look up your fact and give me show names. I am willing to do the research and prove YOUR point. ;D

Even Democratic Underground noticed it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2791303

So did this person http://mybiggestcomplaint.com/hgtv/

They noticed http://www.wbur.org/npr/135353192/if-youre-looking-for-a-little-diversity-on-television-try-hgtv

Plenty more on this interwebz thingy.
 
If the shows are about interior decorating and things like that, wouldn't you have more gay people involved?
I know that is a stereotype, but there is a reason it is a stereotype.
Just wondering, as far as I know I have never seen anything on this channel.
 
Hubby watches the HGTV and DIY on Sundays. From the minute glimpses that I get of the networks, I can't recall seeing more than one or two same-sex couples. But again, it's rare for me to sit down and watch that nonsense.

But, TV shows are based on ratings. If the same folks that were outraged over the Duck Dynasty nonsense step up over this nonsense, the guys may get a show. If they don't, they won't.

Either way, I won't watch it (at least not on purpose).
 
stradial said:
If the shows are about interior decorating and things like that, wouldn't you have more gay people involved?
I know that is a stereotype, but there is a reason it is a stereotype.
Just wondering, as far as I know I have never seen anything on this channel.

Yes, but we're referring to the homeowners chosen to get the free work done.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.

Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.

I just got tired of the crap and moved on.



On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.

It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)

Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue :))

So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?

When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.

Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.

Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.

I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.

Again, I do not see nor have I seen that. You guys keep stating it as fact; "It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious" so let me look up your fact and give me show names. I am willing to do the research and prove YOUR point. ;D

Even Democratic Underground noticed it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2791303

So did this person http://mybiggestcomplaint.com/hgtv/

They noticed http://www.wbur.org/npr/135353192/if-youre-looking-for-a-little-diversity-on-television-try-hgtv

Plenty more on this interwebz thingy.

Show name that you noticed it? I would prefer to look at actual facts verses opinion.

Though this (NPR): Neda Ulaby reports on Wednesday's Morning Edition that there's a surprising channel where you can see Latino, Asian, or African-American people, as well as gays and lesbians, in significantly larger numbers than in much of the rest of broadcast and cable television. I do not disagree with and said that they do show more than others because they try to include all rather than exclude, but I still do not see the figures some are stating. ;)

(The other link was more opinion but their opinion was about 10%)


You do not have to bother with the show name. ;)
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.

Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.

I just got tired of the crap and moved on.



On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.

It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)

Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue :))

So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?

When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.

Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.

Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.

I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.

Again, I do not see nor have I seen that. You guys keep stating it as fact; "It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious" so let me look up your fact and give me show names. I am willing to do the research and prove YOUR point. ;D

Even Democratic Underground noticed it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2791303

So did this person http://mybiggestcomplaint.com/hgtv/

They noticed http://www.wbur.org/npr/135353192/if-youre-looking-for-a-little-diversity-on-television-try-hgtv

Plenty more on this interwebz thingy.

Show name that you noticed it? I would prefer to look at actual facts verses opinion.

Though this (NPR): Neda Ulaby reports on Wednesday's Morning Edition that there's a surprising channel where you can see Latino, Asian, or African-American people, as well as gays and lesbians, in significantly larger numbers than in much of the rest of broadcast and cable television. I do not disagree with and said that they do show more than others because they try to include all rather than exclude, but I still do not see the figures some are stating. ;)

(The other link was more opinion but their opinion was about 10%)


You do not have to bother with the show name. ;)

It doesn't matter. We're each entitled to our opinions.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.

Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.

I just got tired of the crap and moved on.



On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.

It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)

Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue :))

So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?

When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.

Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.

Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.

I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.

Again, I do not see nor have I seen that. You guys keep stating it as fact; "It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious" so let me look up your fact and give me show names. I am willing to do the research and prove YOUR point. ;D

Even Democratic Underground noticed it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2791303

So did this person http://mybiggestcomplaint.com/hgtv/

They noticed http://www.wbur.org/npr/135353192/if-youre-looking-for-a-little-diversity-on-television-try-hgtv

Plenty more on this interwebz thingy.

Show name that you noticed it? I would prefer to look at actual facts verses opinion.

Though this (NPR): Neda Ulaby reports on Wednesday's Morning Edition that there's a surprising channel where you can see Latino, Asian, or African-American people, as well as gays and lesbians, in significantly larger numbers than in much of the rest of broadcast and cable television. I do not disagree with and said that they do show more than others because they try to include all rather than exclude, but I still do not see the figures some are stating. ;)

(The other link was more opinion but their opinion was about 10%)


You do not have to bother with the show name. ;)

It doesn't matter. We're each entitled to our opinions.
not if you're WRONG! LOL
 
Blazing Saddles said:
Guard Dad said:
It doesn't matter. We're each entitled to our opinions.
not if you're WRONG! LOL

Nope he can even have a wrong opinion, you should know that. :taunt

Seriously I think we all are entitled to our own opinions, it is when we get our opinions confused with facts that we all go astray. :))
 
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
I haven't done actual comparisons, but on it's surface, it appears that the number of shows on HGTV featuring gay couples exceeds the national average.

I would agree that we see more gay couples on there than other places, but I do not see 1 gay couple for every 3-4 couples (GD) or 2 of 5 (GC) couples being gay. Do you? (really asking)

I'd be scared to guess numbers, because I really have no idea. I haven't watched in a very long time. I used to love it, and enjoyed House Hunters because you could see so many different areas. Then I grew weary because that's all it was.

I'd guess that of their shows, House Hunters has the highest percentage of gays. I've only seen a few on Property Brothers (one of my favorites).

I just REALLY miss their old layout and shows.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.

Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.

I just got tired of the crap and moved on.



On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.

It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)

Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue :))

So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?

When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.

Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.

Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.

I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.

Again, I do not see nor have I seen that. You guys keep stating it as fact; "It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious" so let me look up your fact and give me show names. I am willing to do the research and prove YOUR point. ;D

Even Democratic Underground noticed it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2791303

So did this person http://mybiggestcomplaint.com/hgtv/

They noticed http://www.wbur.org/npr/135353192/if-youre-looking-for-a-little-diversity-on-television-try-hgtv

Plenty more on this interwebz thingy.

Show name that you noticed it? I would prefer to look at actual facts verses opinion.

Though this (NPR): Neda Ulaby reports on Wednesday's Morning Edition that there's a surprising channel where you can see Latino, Asian, or African-American people, as well as gays and lesbians, in significantly larger numbers than in much of the rest of broadcast and cable television. I do not disagree with and said that they do show more than others because they try to include all rather than exclude, but I still do not see the figures some are stating. ;)

(The other link was more opinion but their opinion was about 10%)


You do not have to bother with the show name. ;)

It doesn't matter. We're each entitled to our opinions.

Dang straight! I consider Mrs. Colson and I professional HGTV watchers because we are big into house design and she is into decorating trends. I'm not talking one night every other week or so, but at least an hour or so per night. Anyone want to match their decorating ability to Mrs. Colson can take their best shot and try it.

I'm not talking out of my rear when I say that I KNOW what I watch and how often I see same sex couples pin those shows. Does it keep us from watching in protest? Nooooo. We just overlook the nonsense and try to get out of it what we tuned in for.
 
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