HGTV show canceled because of hosts\' beliefs
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I'm Floored
Lover of BS!
Another article from a different viewpoint:
HGTV Cancels Reality TV Show “Flip It Forward” After Learning Stars are Pro-Life
I guess the days of people not being discriminated against for race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. really are over.
HGTV Cancels Reality TV Show “Flip It Forward” After Learning Stars are Pro-Life
I guess the days of people not being discriminated against for race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. really are over.
I'm Floored
Lover of BS!
Some of my friends went to Liberty U with them. I just don't understand why sexual orientation - or your beliefs thereabout - are important to this situation at all. And I'd feel the same way if a show were canceled because a host was pro-choice.
Political correctness run amok.
Political correctness run amok.
Blazing Saddles
Pursuit Driver
Only if you're Christian. I'm searching the internet for any canceled shows where the hosts are muslim and believe in devaluing women. I'm drawing a blank.I'm Floored said:
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
Blazing Saddles said:
Are you sure? ? ? ? :whistle
Waski_the_Squirrel
Resident of the least visited state in the nation.
I don't have TV, but I did learn about HGTV this winter as I researched some improvements I would like to do to my house. I actually found some interesting things there, although I still haven't figured out what color to paint my house.
That said, here is the problem: you put someone on your network that people protest, and you end up with boycotts and negative publicity. Suppose these brothers were activists for NAMBLA? (That one is too disgusting for me to describe, so look it up only if you have a strong stomach.) People on both sides of the political divide would join together to demand that their show not air. If HGTV decided to air the show anyway, we would probably all arrange a boycott.
It didn't take me long on the HGTV website to figure out that some of the hosts are homosexuals and the network as a whole has a liberal (but mostly family friendly) image along with blatant consumerism. More than that, they avoid anything controversial. These brothers are controversial, and the controversy is because their views are quite different than what the network seems to express.
The network is protecting its image. The network should have stopped the show long before all of this, so I think that HGTV did not do its research in this case. The show should not have been allowed to develop this far.
Now, I'll admit that I'm in sympathy with the brothers' views. But, I believe HGTV should be able to employ who it wants, just as I should have that freedom if I become an employer.
That said, here is the problem: you put someone on your network that people protest, and you end up with boycotts and negative publicity. Suppose these brothers were activists for NAMBLA? (That one is too disgusting for me to describe, so look it up only if you have a strong stomach.) People on both sides of the political divide would join together to demand that their show not air. If HGTV decided to air the show anyway, we would probably all arrange a boycott.
It didn't take me long on the HGTV website to figure out that some of the hosts are homosexuals and the network as a whole has a liberal (but mostly family friendly) image along with blatant consumerism. More than that, they avoid anything controversial. These brothers are controversial, and the controversy is because their views are quite different than what the network seems to express.
The network is protecting its image. The network should have stopped the show long before all of this, so I think that HGTV did not do its research in this case. The show should not have been allowed to develop this far.
Now, I'll admit that I'm in sympathy with the brothers' views. But, I believe HGTV should be able to employ who it wants, just as I should have that freedom if I become an employer.
mei lan
Pursuit Driver
Your house is small, so a lighter color will make it look bigger. Get some paint samples and paint a few blocks in an unobtrusive section and look at them in different times of the day. Then eliminate the ones you don't like one by one. Let us know what you decide.
End of hijack. :soashamed
End of hijack. :soashamed
Boss 302
Pursuit Driver
I've had some job interviews in the past where the interviewers had brought up political issues. I chose to ignore them to keep the interview focused on the job. I often wonder if this is a tactic used by some HR people to hire people who have the same political beliefs of the employer or even the HR person conducting the interview. I find this to be rather tacky as this is just another form of bigotry and discrimination.
If the reasons for the show being cancelled was based upon the brothers personal views on homosexuality and abortion then I hope they sue HGTV.
If the reasons for the show being cancelled was based upon the brothers personal views on homosexuality and abortion then I hope they sue HGTV.
I used to be a big fan of HGTV and DIY. But it became very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same-sex couples and homeowners on their show.
Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.
I just got tired of the crap and moved on.
On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.
Also, as a licensed contractor myself, I found that they were giving some very bad advice in many areas.
I just got tired of the crap and moved on.
On a related note...the best home improvement show ever was probably Hometime. Dean Johnson knows his stuff, and my favorite co-host was JoAnn Libeler.
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
Guard Dad said:
It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)
Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue
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ShoeDiva said:Guard Dad said:
It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)
Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue
So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?
When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.
Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
Guard Dad said:ShoeDiva said:Guard Dad said:
It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)
Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue
So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?
When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.
Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.
No, your OPINION is not wrong. You stated that is was very obvious. That came across as factual. It did not come across to me as an opinion. I have not watched any show on HGTV that there was a gay couple on virtually every episode so I asked what show it was, it could be that you were right and I left an opening for that by asking what show you were talking about so we could look it up. Jeez.....
Boss 302
Pursuit Driver
Guard Dad said:
My wife and I have watched "Property Brothers" quite a bit on HGTV. The show is filmed in Canada just as "Love It or List It" is. We've seen quite a few same sex couples on "Property Brothers," but have yet to see any on "Love It or List It." When we see a program with a same sex couple, we change the channel and watch something else.
lotstodo
aka "The Jackal"
One of my first interviews just out of Georgia Tech was with the Bluebird Bus Company in Fort Valley Georgia. I had sent a resume in advance and we had some small talk before I went over my portfolio, they were initially interested in me because my Senior Thesis was recreational truck related, I had a strong background in engineering as well as design, and I had some very minor previous experience with ambulance design.
I felt the interview with the Design manager had gone well. The VP of Engineering came in and asked me some questions about my interest in and experience with RV's, what other positions I was considering, and a few more technical questions, and then excused himself saying that he wanted me to meet someone else. The Human Resources person came in, sat down, and asked me why there was no reference to my religion in my resume. I told her that I didn't find it germane to my abilities as an Industrial Designer. She asked me my religion, and I said agnostic. She left the room after those two questions.
The VP of Engineering returned and told me that he was sorry, but they started every shift off with a mandatory Christian prayer and any employee in the presence of the prayer, no matter what job they did, must hold hands and join in. Those were the rules. He thanked me for my time and we parted ways. I have no problem with that. It is their business and they were up front. They told me what they would expect. I was a bit surprised, but I would have hated to have taken the job and then found that I was required to pray every morning as a condition of my employment. I even found out later that he had called and given me a recommendation for the job I finally got without me even asking.
Unfortunately with HGTV, like Waski pointed out, nobody was up front with their intentions or requirements. They probably lost an excellent show, but it's their business to run even if it's into the ground.
I felt the interview with the Design manager had gone well. The VP of Engineering came in and asked me some questions about my interest in and experience with RV's, what other positions I was considering, and a few more technical questions, and then excused himself saying that he wanted me to meet someone else. The Human Resources person came in, sat down, and asked me why there was no reference to my religion in my resume. I told her that I didn't find it germane to my abilities as an Industrial Designer. She asked me my religion, and I said agnostic. She left the room after those two questions.
The VP of Engineering returned and told me that he was sorry, but they started every shift off with a mandatory Christian prayer and any employee in the presence of the prayer, no matter what job they did, must hold hands and join in. Those were the rules. He thanked me for my time and we parted ways. I have no problem with that. It is their business and they were up front. They told me what they would expect. I was a bit surprised, but I would have hated to have taken the job and then found that I was required to pray every morning as a condition of my employment. I even found out later that he had called and given me a recommendation for the job I finally got without me even asking.
Unfortunately with HGTV, like Waski pointed out, nobody was up front with their intentions or requirements. They probably lost an excellent show, but it's their business to run even if it's into the ground.
Guard Dad said:ShoeDiva said:Guard Dad said:
It is not "very obvious that they were going out of their way to put same sex couples and homeowners on their show." I have watched HGTV and DIY for years and while they do have same sex couples on their shows, most are not. I believe that they do not exclude them from their shows, which might give you the opinion of them going out of their way, but they do not have a disproportional amount of same sex couples to opposite sex couples that would lead one to believe they are "going out of their way" to include them. Exactly what show(s) are you speaking about, we can look it up and see because now I am curious. (I really do believe they are not excluding them and that in itself is still just so different maybe it appeared that they were going out of their way.)
Now if you stopped watching because you felt the advice was wrong that is one thing, though they do use licensed contractors and I would think they would be careful with any true advice given because so many people sue
So my observation is wrong just because you see it differently?
When I was watching the show, they would have a same-sex couple on virtually every episode. That means one same-sex couple for every 3-4 couples. That is disproportionate.
Even "She who adores me" noticed that they were pushing the lifestyle.
Your observation is right on the mark. We really enjoyed HGTV for years, but it gets a little old when approximately 11% of the population claims to have attraction to the same gender, yet approximately 2 of 5 couples they produce episodes about are homosexuals. It IS disproportionate and it IS obvious.
I agree HGTV can do what it wants. I don't have an issue with that, but just think of the firestorm that would sweep the media if HGTV held the views of Chick-Fil-A or maybe Hobby Lobby and refused to air a series because the hosts were gay.