"Gay Christian" is NOT an oxymoron...

[Guard Dad]

Hey! This is a gay Christian thread - NOT the white girl bad day thread!!!! :tapfoot2

Who says we are white? :tapfoot2

Honkey, please!

 

[LisaC]

Hey! This is a gay Christian thread - NOT the white girl bad day thread!!!! :tapfoot2

Who says we are white? :tapfoot2

While I might be colorblind, your whiteness is very apparent...

 

[Guard Dad]

Hey! This is a gay Christian thread - NOT the white girl bad day thread!!!! :tapfoot2

Who says we are white? :tapfoot2

While I might be colorblind, your whiteness is very apparent...

It's all the sunscreen she wears. ;D

 

[ShoeDiva]

Hey! This is a gay Christian thread - NOT the white girl bad day thread!!!! :tapfoot2

Who says we are white? :tapfoot2

While I might be colorblind, your whiteness is very apparent...

:spitchick

 

[Madea]

Excuse me! I'm Vanilla.

 

[Guard Dad]

Excuse me! I'm Vanilla.

Better stay out of New Orleans, it's a chocolate city.

 

[Waski_the_Squirrel]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

 

[LisaC]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

Amen my nutty brother...

 

[Guard Dad]

I wonder what Jesus thinks about hyphenated Christians?

This was a serious question.

What does Jesus think about Christians who add a qualifier to their claim of faith?

Shouldn't we just be Christians...not this kind of Christian or that kind of Christian?

 

[mei lan]

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either.

OH DEAR LORD IN HEAVEN!!! Squirrel, if you were here right now, I swear I'd kiss you right on the mouth!!! That is MY TAKE EXACTLY!!!

I do not condone homosexuality, and the Bible is pretty clear that God is not pleased with it. But as you stated so brilliantly, there just aren't THAT many homosexuals (despite what Hollyweird would have us believe). IMHO, indiscriminate divorce and remarriage have destroyed the foundations of the institution of marriage WAY MORE than homosexuality (or the thought of homosexual marriage) ever could. Ditto shacking up without being married, and bearing children out of wedlock.

I have no problem with the term "gay Christian" because I don't pay attention to what somebody calls himself/herself, and I figure that's between them and God.

 

[mei lan]

I wonder what Jesus thinks about hyphenated Christians?

This was a serious question.

What does Jesus think about Christians who add a qualifier to their claim of faith?

Shouldn't we just be Christians...not this kind of Christian or that kind of Christian?

I think Jesus has a lot more on His mind than caring whether somebody puts a qualifier in front of the word Christian. I see your point, but I do see some value in modifiers in front of the word Christian. For example - Coptic Christian, evangelical Christian, etc.

 

[naturegirl]

I had to chuckle at this from Waski's post: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

My father was married three times, at his funeral my aunt (his sister) said repeatedly that he was not going to heaven, no way no how........he had too many women to get there. This aunt never had a problem telling you exactly what was on her mind. Loved that about her.

Anyway, I do agree with Waski, it's between them and their God. I don't condone homosexuality but I love a couple of people that are indeed homosexual. :love

 

[Grey Colson]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

I'm very much in agreement with you, Bro. However there is one thing that I would like to point out that shouldn't be overlooked. The discussions here are typically not generated by the "You can't go to heaven if you do so-n-so" crowd.

 

[LisaC]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

I'm very much in agreement with you, Bro. However there is one thing that I would like to point out that shouldn't be overlooked. The discussions here are typically not generated by the "You can't go to heaven if you do so-n-so" crowd.

You are right. I start these conversations and I do it so some folks here will stop condemning everyone else and actually think about what Jesus has told us what the greatest commandment is: to love one another.

 

[Grey Colson]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

I'm very much in agreement with you, Bro. However there is one thing that I would like to point out that shouldn't be overlooked. The discussions here are typically not generated by the "You can't go to heaven if you do so-n-so" crowd.

You are right. I start these conversations and I do it so some folks here will stop condemning everyone else and actually think about what Jesus has told us what the greatest commandment is: to love one another.

I don't see that going on. I obviously missed the "Let's condemn the gays today" threads.

 

[Guard Dad]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

I'm very much in agreement with you, Bro. However there is one thing that I would like to point out that shouldn't be overlooked. The discussions here are typically not generated by the "You can't go to heaven if you do so-n-so" crowd.

You are right. I start these conversations and I do it so some folks here will stop condemning everyone else and actually think about what Jesus has told us what the greatest commandment is: to love one another.

I don't see that going on. I obviously missed the "Let's condemn the gays today" threads.

I seem to have missed them too.

Perhaps some people have trouble understanding the "hate the sin, love the sinner" philosophy.

 

[Sadie612]

at least I know my dessert I made would go over really well at one of their church functions

 

[Blazing Saddles]

I'm not capable of judging what is in someone's heart, and I don't have any special insight into who is going to Heaven and who is not. I trust God to do that. I don't like hearing Christians claim to speak for God: "You're not going to Heaven because..." or "You can't be a Christian because..."

I really don't understand the fixation that some Christians have on homosexuality. Speaking purely from the perspective of numbers, I would say divorce is a much larger issue and is also condemned in the Bible. There just aren't that many homosexuals. Of course, now that divorce is so common, many people accept it despite what is written in the Bible. There isn't much condemnation of out-of-wedlock sex either. I find it particularly repellant when Christians go beyond condemnation of sin to acts of hate and revenge. This actually turns people away from Christ.

This is not to imply that we should accept homosexuality. But, we should be aware that none of us are sinless and perfect and to condemn one sin while wallowing in another is the meaning behind the verse in the Gospel of Matthew. We're all sinners, and many of us justify our sins, we're just blind to it.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So in short, I don't approve of homosexuality, but I also have no problem with the concept of a gay Christian.

I'm very much in agreement with you, Bro. However there is one thing that I would like to point out that shouldn't be overlooked. The discussions here are typically not generated by the "You can't go to heaven if you do so-n-so" crowd.

You are right. I start these conversations and I do it so some folks here will stop condemning everyone else and actually think about what Jesus has told us what the greatest commandment is: to love one another.

I don't see that going on. I obviously missed the "Let's condemn the gays today" threads.

You missed them because they aren't there.

 

[LisaC]

at least I know my dessert I made would go over really well at one of their church functions

Yep, we have lots of sinners in our church - some of them are even divorced and need a good chocolate covered banana. Heck, there are a few folks here that could use one right about now...

 

[Blazing Saddles]

at least I know my dessert I made would go over really well at one of their church functions

Yep, we have lots of sinners in our church - some of them are even divorced and need a good chocolate covered banana. Heck, there are a few folks here that could use one right about now...

Why are you being to hateful today?