"Gay Christian" is NOT an oxymoron...

LisaC

I'm here to spin the moral compass.
I love this article from Justin Lee.
But far too often, Christians respond not with curiosity and questions but
with politics and preaching.

They quote Bible passages at me, make assumptions about my faith, or tell me
why they’re opposed to same-sex marriage.

I'm no longer a person to them; I'm a symbol of a culture war. A battlefield.

And when I don't want to be treated that way, they assume I'm turning away
because I didn't really want to hear the truth.
This sentence really stood out to me: "But if Christians feel particularly singled out at times, I'd argue that our perceived lack of empathy for others is largely to blame."

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/11/my-take-gay-christian-is-not-an-oxymoron/?hpt=hp_t4
 
I'm glad we can now say these aren't oxymorons either. O happy day.

Murdering Christian
Pedophile Christian
Alcoholic Christian
Slothful Christian
Rapist Christian
Thieving Christian
Dopehead Christian
Lying Christian

This issue is not about being gay, it's whether you feel you can be both. You're identity in Christ is not about the sin you are in but what Christ has done for you. Christ came to free not partner in our sin, not to share our identity with sin, and certainly not to offer grace as reason to keep sinning. I feel gay people are more responsible for their labeling because that's how they present themselves. Are Christians guilty of acting righteous? You bet but don't throw everything on a group to justify your inappropriate Christian labeling as a ticket to keep sinning. Is "gay Christian" an oxymoron.....yes it is. The Bible clearly states we are a new creature in Christ and the old sin nature is GONE. If someone continues to label themselves in a different manner, then they have to deal with the Lord on that. To go around continuing to put a sinful label on who you are after you have supposedly had a supernatural experience with God is cheapening the awesome power of our resurrected Lord. I have sinned since my conversion but I surely don't give recognition by putting it as part of my Christian identity. Christ offers something totally different.
 
I feel gay people are more responsible for their labeling because that's how they present themselves.

^^This^^

Same with the gay basketball player, gay this and gay that.

Why is it so necessary to wave that flag? Are they not doing exactly what they want others NOT to do by defining themselves by their sexuality?
 
Blazing Saddles said:
I'm glad we can now say these aren't oxymorons either. O happy day.

Murdering Christian
Pedophile Christian
Alcoholic Christian
Slothful Christian
Rapist Christian
Thieving Christian
Dopehead Christian
Lying Christian

This issue is not about being gay, it's whether you feel you can be both. You're identity in Christ is not about the sin you are in but what Christ has done for you. Christ came to free not partner in our sin, not to share our identity with sin, and certainly not to offer grace as reason to keep sinning. I feel gay people are more responsible for their labeling because that's how they present themselves. Are Christians guilty of acting righteous? You bet but don't throw everything on a group to justify your inappropriate Christian labeling as a ticket to keep sinning. Is "gay Christian" an oxymoron.....yes it is. The Bible clearly states we are a new creature in Christ and the old sin nature is GONE. If someone continues to label themselves in a different manner, then they have to deal with the Lord on that. To go around continuing to put a sinful label on who you are after you have supposedly had a supernatural experience with God is cheapening the awesome power of our resurrected Lord. I have sinned since my conversion but I surely don't give recognition by putting it as part of my Christian identity. Christ offers something totally different.
That's why this sentence stood out to me: "But if Christians feel particularly singled out at times, I'd argue that our perceived lack of empathy for others is largely to blame."
 
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.
 
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.

I didn't see a lack of empathy in his post. Nor did he seem upset. :dunno
 
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.

I didn't see a lack of empathy in his post. Nor did he seem upset. :dunno

Trying to keep up, but I can not figure out who you are speaking of with "his post" and "nor did he." Who?
 
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.

I didn't see a lack of empathy in his post. Nor did he seem upset. :dunno

Trying to keep up, but I can not figure out who you are speaking of with "his post" and "nor did he." Who?

See quotes above. I was specifically referring to BS post.
 
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.

I didn't see a lack of empathy in his post. Nor did he seem upset. :dunno

Trying to keep up, but I can not figure out who you are speaking of with "his post" and "nor did he." Who?

See quotes above. I was specifically referring to BS post.

Oh, so you were thinking she was specifically referring to BS? I did not get that. :) I guess we need to wait for Lisa to answer. I thought it was in general "with some folks" and "they."
 
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.

I didn't see a lack of empathy in his post. Nor did he seem upset. :dunno

Trying to keep up, but I can not figure out who you are speaking of with "his post" and "nor did he." Who?

See quotes above. I was specifically referring to BS post.

Oh, so you were thinking she was specifically referring to BS? I did not get that. :) I guess we need to wait for Lisa to answer. I thought it was in general "with some folks" and "they."

No, I wasn't thinking that nor did I say that. Just stating I didn't see that in BS post.
 
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
LisaC said:
Blazing Saddles said:
Lack of empathy or tolerance of sin?

I venture to say that it's both... Some folks like to throw stones and they tend to get a little upset when the stones are thrown at them.

I didn't see a lack of empathy in his post. Nor did he seem upset. :dunno

Trying to keep up, but I can not figure out who you are speaking of with "his post" and "nor did he." Who?

See quotes above. I was specifically referring to BS post.

Oh, so you were thinking she was specifically referring to BS? I did not get that. :) I guess we need to wait for Lisa to answer. I thought it was in general "with some folks" and "they."

No, I wasn't thinking that nor did I say that. Just stating I didn't see that in BS post.

Um, ok...
 
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Yeah, it's okay. :thumbsup

It is. I am just confused. It has been a day from Hades. :huh

I'd need a Sadie thread to describe mine (so as not to hijack LC's). Well, not really a Sadie thread, more of a rant than you won't believe what happened to me today. :))
 
Madea said:
ShoeDiva said:
Madea said:
Yeah, it's okay. :thumbsup

It is. I am just confused. It has been a day from Hades. :huh

I'd need a Sadie thread to describe mine (so as not to hijack LC's). Well, not really a Sadie thread, more of a rant than you won't believe what happened to me today. :))

Please start one! (maybe I will feel better about mine...sorry! :)) )
 
Hey! This is a gay Christian thread - NOT the white girl bad day thread!!!! :tapfoot2
 
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