Do you punish

ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
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What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. :huh

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
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I think he could have been making a connection with children and adults who still act like children. Perfect answer that pertains to a lot of people in society today.
 
The solution to this is really simple. Just beat the hell out of the kid with a belt, take away all computers, video games and cell phones, and lock them in a closet until they are 35.

That'll fix the little monster.
 
Guard Dad said:
The solution to this is really simple. Just beat the hell out of the kid with a belt, take away all computers, video games and cell phones, and lock them in a closet until they are 35.

That'll fix the little monster.
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Maybe so but then they get on line after getting out of the closet and cause all kind of trouble. :)
 
Guard Dad said:
The solution to this is really simple. Just beat the hell out of the kid with a belt, take away all computers, video games and cell phones, and lock them in a closet until they are 35.

That'll fix the little monster.
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You just have to do it immediately!! :)
 
Grey Colson said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
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What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. :huh

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
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I was giving many examples of why a person may or may not hold off discipline. If my mention of children was sufficient....then that's a good thing. If we are suggesting that conversations can not be added to with additional thoughts along the same line, then there are many threads that may require my attention.
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You can talk about your ingrown toenail in this thread...that I do not care about. Since you were addressing the actual topic I would have thought you would have discussed children. Adults are a different matter and adults under investigation something totally different from that. Maybe I should do a spin off..that should be good for 20 more pages.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
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What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. ???

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
Click to expand...

I was giving many examples of why a person may or may not hold off discipline. If my mention of children was sufficient....then that's a good thing. If we are suggesting that conversations can not be added to with additional thoughts along the same line, then there are many threads that may require my attention.
Click to expand...

You can talk about your ingrown toenail in this thread...that I do not care about. Since you were addressing the actual topic I would have thought you would have discussed children. Adults are a different matter and adults under investigation something totally different from that. Maybe I should do a spin off..that should be good for 20 more pages.
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OK, but can we combine our two favorite topics and do it to music?
 
Blazing Saddles said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
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What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. :huh

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
Click to expand...
I think he could have been making a connection with children and adults who still act like children. Perfect answer that pertains to a lot of people in society today.
Click to expand...

I do hope most adults are not under investigation. At least the ones I know are not, who are you hanging out with? :))
 
Guard Dad said:
The solution to this is really simple. Just beat the hell out of the kid with a belt, take away all computers, video games and cell phones, and lock them in a closet until they are 35.

That'll fix the little monster.
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:eek:
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
Click to expand...

What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. ???

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
Click to expand...

I was giving many examples of why a person may or may not hold off discipline. If my mention of children was sufficient....then that's a good thing. If we are suggesting that conversations can not be added to with additional thoughts along the same line, then there are many threads that may require my attention.
Click to expand...

You can talk about your ingrown toenail in this thread...that I do not care about. Since you were addressing the actual topic I would have thought you would have discussed children. Adults are a different matter and adults under investigation something totally different from that. Maybe I should do a spin off..that should be good for 20 more pages.
Click to expand...

OK, but can we combine our two favorite topics and do it to music?
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Sadie will not be happy. :snick_bunny
 
ShoeDiva said:
Blazing Saddles said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
Click to expand...

What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. :huh

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
Click to expand...
I think he could have been making a connection with children and adults who still act like children. Perfect answer that pertains to a lot of people in society today.
Click to expand...

I do hope most adults are not under investigation. At least the ones I know are not, who are you hanging out with? :))
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I was making reference to adults acting like children. Today's society has a lot of them.
 
BS,GC,GD and SD... you all get warnings for not listening to me...

MErcy ... I got to work 10 minutes early so you all can now play..
 
Blazing Saddles said:
ShoeDiva said:
Blazing Saddles said:
ShoeDiva said:
Grey Colson said:
It depends on the circumstances and the person. You can take action immediately or a reasonable time later. Again, there are many factors.

If I saw my child doing something wrong, then immediate action may be warranted unless it is the "heat of the moment" and my emotions may drive me to act more harshly than is reasonable.

Adults are not children, in most cases. In Internal Affairs it could take weeks or months to deliver discipline. In many cases the matter should be discussed, as in violations of our agency policy and procedures. They are not typically matters that require a time sensitive response. I would present the facts of a case to the command staff and they would discuss the issue to ensure they were not only fair, but consistent in their decision with the person in question as they have been with others in the past.

In either case, wrong is wrong and there is no statute of limitations. Move too quickly at times and you may be accused of too speedy judgment.

The best advice I tried to give those under an IA investigation was this. If you did do something wrong and/or have made a mistake, the VERY best thing to do is to accept it, admit it and drive on. The people who accepted this advice faired very well in their disciplinary hearing. It was those who chose to argue and direct blame to others who did not.
Click to expand...

What are you talking about?
We are not talking about an adult nor anyone under investigation. :huh

I did see one sentence that used the word child. That sentence made sense.
Click to expand...
I think he could have been making a connection with children and adults who still act like children. Perfect answer that pertains to a lot of people in society today.
Click to expand...

I do hope most adults are not under investigation. At least the ones I know are not, who are you hanging out with? :))
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I was making reference to adults acting like children. Today's society has a lot of them.
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Lighten up. I made a joke...did you see the laughing smiley?
 
Hmmmmmm, maybe we should start a thread about adults that behave like children........just be kind to me, I don't wanna grow up. ;D
 
naturegirl said:
Hmmmmmm, maybe we should start a thread about adults that behave like children........just be kind to me, I don't wanna grow up. ;D
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GD and GC would take up the first 20 pages....just saying. :laugh :laugh :laugh
 
ShoeDiva said:
naturegirl said:
Hmmmmmm, maybe we should start a thread about adults that behave like children........just be kind to me, I don't wanna grow up. ;D
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GD and GC would take up the first 20 pages....just saying. :laugh :laugh :laugh
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And your point is?
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
naturegirl said:
Hmmmmmm, maybe we should start a thread about adults that behave like children........just be kind to me, I don't wanna grow up. ;D
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GD and GC would take up the first 20 pages....just saying. :laugh :laugh :laugh
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And your point is?
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I was letting NG know that we would be kind to her. :))
 
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