naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
Re: Community Meeting re: Airport 1/30/14
The video is not up yet, as soon as I see it, I can post it.
The video is not up yet, as soon as I see it, I can post it.
Community Meeting **updated**re: Airport 2/27/14
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hiramgirl
How did I get here?
Re: Community Meeting re: Airport 1/30/14
Maybe someone with authority from the airport would come if you hand delivered an engraved invitation, but I really doubt it. The other invites haven't worked so far. But some commissioners did take time out of their busy day to call the church before the meeting took place. You would think this would be a good opportunity to address questions. If they don't like the "feel of the room" they can easily leave the meeting.
Maybe someone with authority from the airport would come if you hand delivered an engraved invitation, but I really doubt it. The other invites haven't worked so far. But some commissioners did take time out of their busy day to call the church before the meeting took place. You would think this would be a good opportunity to address questions. If they don't like the "feel of the room" they can easily leave the meeting.
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
Re: Community Meeting re: Airport 1/30/14
Thanks that's a great idea.
Guess you heard there is another one coming up on the 30th. Same location, same group, new presentation. Here's the info.
*****************************
COMMUNITY MEETING
*****************************
Updates regarding
The Paulding Northwest Atlanta
Airport Expansion
Thursday, January 30, 2014
7pm at Bethany Christian Church
Everyone invited
3264 Villa Rica Hwy
Dallas, GA 30157
Meeting sponsored by Citizens for a Better Paulding County
https://www.facebook.com/savepauldingco
And they have invited Protect Paulding County to participate.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Protect-Paulding-County/361408803996754
http://www.protectpaulding.com/
hiramgirl said:
Thanks that's a great idea.
Guess you heard there is another one coming up on the 30th. Same location, same group, new presentation. Here's the info.
*****************************
COMMUNITY MEETING
*****************************
Updates regarding
The Paulding Northwest Atlanta
Airport Expansion
Thursday, January 30, 2014
7pm at Bethany Christian Church
Everyone invited
3264 Villa Rica Hwy
Dallas, GA 30157
Meeting sponsored by Citizens for a Better Paulding County
https://www.facebook.com/savepauldingco
And they have invited Protect Paulding County to participate.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Protect-Paulding-County/361408803996754
http://www.protectpaulding.com/
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
Re: Community Meeting **uupdated**re: Airport 2/27/14
This meeting had to be rescheduled due to weather. They are doing the presentation tonight, same location.
Citizens For A Better Paulding County proudly invites you to our 2nd Community Meeting, regarding information and updates on the proposed airport commercialization this Thursday, Feb. 27th!
Location: Bethany Christian Church
3264 Villa Rica Highway, Dallas, GA 30157
Time: 7:00 p.m.
https://www.facebook.com/savepauldingco
This meeting had to be rescheduled due to weather. They are doing the presentation tonight, same location.
Citizens For A Better Paulding County proudly invites you to our 2nd Community Meeting, regarding information and updates on the proposed airport commercialization this Thursday, Feb. 27th!
Location: Bethany Christian Church
3264 Villa Rica Highway, Dallas, GA 30157
Time: 7:00 p.m.
https://www.facebook.com/savepauldingco
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
If you can't make the meeting, they will be doing a live stream starting at 7:00pm
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bethany-live-worship
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bethany-live-worship
LisaC
I'm here to spin the moral compass.
Re: Community Meeting **uupdated**re: Airport 2/27/14
I hope the meeting went well, but the three robo messages I had on the answering machine yesterday were annoying. I don't like them during election season and I don't like them now....
naturegirl said:
I hope the meeting went well, but the three robo messages I had on the answering machine yesterday were annoying. I don't like them during election season and I don't like them now....
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
Unless you have three separate phone numbers it's highly unlikely you got three phone calls. The meeting went great, great turn out and the live stream almost crashed the system. 
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
naturegirl said:Unless you have three separate phone numbers it's highly unlikely you got three phone calls. The meeting went great, great turn out and the live stream almost crashed the system.
I popped on and off while I was doing other stuff...at the end, I missed the beginning completely. I did not see any "new" info, was that at the beginning?
Why did the live stream almost crash? (It shows during live stream how many are on and I never saw more than 24, though like I said I did not watch in the beginning, I was just wondering why it would crash from that? :dunno )
honeybunny
Pursuit Driver
naturegirl said:Unless you have three separate phone numbers it's highly unlikely you got three phone calls. The meeting went great, great turn out and the live stream almost crashed the system.
Great presentation with lots of interesting information... so many questions, so few answers from our elected officials.
:thumbsup
Blazing Saddles
Pursuit Driver
Thanks for posting ng. I'm following both sides from the back row. I'm also not " looking" to post a negative comment just to post something. I guess it's not my style.
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
Blazing Saddles said:
Who would that "dig" be directed towards?
But of course negative is not your style. ;DIn all honesty I do not really see a "negative" post. Just questions and statements of opinions. Even well wishes. I too am following as much as I can both sides of this. I do not like much on both, agree with some on both, and really do not know at this point if the county should continue or stop progress towards a commercial airport.
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
To answer your question about almost crashing, the system was overloaded. Lots of people watching the live stream, sorry your info didn't reflect that.
Too bad you missed the beginning, it really was heart wrenching.
Too bad you missed the beginning, it really was heart wrenching.
naturegirl
Rolling down the highway
On the front page of the AJC today.
Taxpayer bill for airport grows
Paulding commission dips into general fund to fuel expansion plan.
By Kelly Yamanouchi kyamanouchi@ajc.com
As Paulding County residents battle a plan to commercialize their county’s airport, county officials are going around the opposition — and dipping into tax dollars — to keep the project moving.
The County Commission recently approved using the general fund to pay for a taxiway widening project expected to cost nearly $2 million. That was after a bond issue intended to finance the work was held up by a court challenge by opponents, leaving no way to pay for grading that had already started.
“I’ll vote to fix the mess you got out there,” said an exasperated Tommie Graham, a commissioner who has generally favored commercialization. “But my patience has run very thin.”
The move came about five months after county leaders and a private company went public with their plan to bring airline service to Paulding Northwest Atlanta Airport. Though they say the service would be limited, it could create a long-discussed “second airport” for the region.
Residents who oppose the Paulding plan have sought to block or slow work needed to make the airport usable by airliners. They also have criticized the airport authority for hatching the plan without public input and refusing to take public comments at its meetings.
This month the authority set a policy that allows public comment but requires residents to apply in advance to speak, and reserves the right to decline if the topic is not deemed pertinent.
One project needed for airline operations is taxiway expansion, which the airport authority moved ahead with before bond financing — normally routine — was completed.
Airport director Blake Swafford said the partly finished widening work was a safety issue because pilots of small planes that use the airport don’t have access to the full taxiway and must “back-taxi” down the runway. “It is not the safest of conditions,” Swafford said.
He asked the commission to take over the contract to finish the widening — expected to cost the county about $1.9 million. It’s also expected the Federal Aviation Administration will eventually reimburse the money, however it is financed.
The five-member County Commission approved the measure, though Graham and one other member voiced concern. “They should have never started that project without having money in hand,” said commissioner Todd Pownall. “The taxpayers should not be bailing them out because they did not do things correctly.”
Swafford acknowledged that “in hindsight, certainly we could have stopped the project before the bond validation was done. The thought that the bond (issue) would be challenged never crossed our minds,” Swafford said. After coun ty and airport authority approval, “generally it’s a done deal.”
Graham told Swafford he would not vote for a separate taxiway extension that’s also planned to prepare for airline opera- fire station are among projects on hold until an environmental assessment is done.
Both Graham and Pownall said they think the airport authority should get the money for the taxiway work from the company it has partnered with for the commercialization, Silver Comet Terminal Partners. Silver Comet’s Brett Smith last year expressed a willingness to pay for the project if necessary.
But Swafford said the project would lose eligibility for FAA reimbursement if an entity other than the county or the airport authority pays.
Swafford and Smith, along with commission chairman David Austin, are the main champions of the commercialization idea, saying it will not only bring limited airline service but also draw related aviation businesses to the lightly used airport.
Opponents, many of whom live near the airport, say the plan could lead to more noise and congestion than ever en visioned.
The funding snarl for taxiway work also has prompted an attempt to change a state law. Before turning to the county for money out of the general fund, airport officials got a $1 million loan from the Paulding County Industrial Building Authority to start the work. Swafford heads both authorities.
That, too, was challenged in court by residents, whose attorney argued the building authority can fund projects like factories and processing plants, but not airport taxiways.
After a judge voiced concerns about the authority’s powers, Paulding airport authority attorney Tom Cable asked state Rep. Howard Maxwell, R-Dallas, to introduce legislation to change wording in the state constitutional amendment that created the building authority. Maxwell issued notice in early February that he intended to do so. The outcome of that issue could determine whether the authority can issue loans for future airport work.
Pownall criticized the move to change the law in the middle of a court case, saying it wasn’t discussed with other county officials including commissioners who vote to fund the authority with taxpayer dollars.
On Tuesday, after learning that a draft of the legislation had been drawn up weeks earlier without their knowledge, commissioners voted 4-1 to table a measure supporting the legislation. Pownall said he thinks the wording would give the authority “way too much freedom and power,” adding that when things go wrong, “it comes back to us.”
THE STORY SO FAR
Paulding County and a private company, Silver Comet Terminal, last year announced a plan to make the Paulding airport usable for airline operations — potentially turning it into metro Atlanta’s second commercial airport. Silver Comet said it would seek an airline to provide limited service to leisure destinations. The plan drew fire from some Paulding residents who raised noise and congestion concerns. Delta Air Lines, the biggest carrier at Hartsfield-Jackson International, also opposes a second airport. Paulding County Commission Chairman David Austin, who backs the airport plan, has publicly accused Delta of orchestrating legal challenges.
BOB ANDRES / BANDRES@AJC.COM
Taxpayer bill for airport grows
Paulding commission dips into general fund to fuel expansion plan.
By Kelly Yamanouchi kyamanouchi@ajc.com
As Paulding County residents battle a plan to commercialize their county’s airport, county officials are going around the opposition — and dipping into tax dollars — to keep the project moving.
The County Commission recently approved using the general fund to pay for a taxiway widening project expected to cost nearly $2 million. That was after a bond issue intended to finance the work was held up by a court challenge by opponents, leaving no way to pay for grading that had already started.
“I’ll vote to fix the mess you got out there,” said an exasperated Tommie Graham, a commissioner who has generally favored commercialization. “But my patience has run very thin.”
The move came about five months after county leaders and a private company went public with their plan to bring airline service to Paulding Northwest Atlanta Airport. Though they say the service would be limited, it could create a long-discussed “second airport” for the region.
Residents who oppose the Paulding plan have sought to block or slow work needed to make the airport usable by airliners. They also have criticized the airport authority for hatching the plan without public input and refusing to take public comments at its meetings.
This month the authority set a policy that allows public comment but requires residents to apply in advance to speak, and reserves the right to decline if the topic is not deemed pertinent.
One project needed for airline operations is taxiway expansion, which the airport authority moved ahead with before bond financing — normally routine — was completed.
Airport director Blake Swafford said the partly finished widening work was a safety issue because pilots of small planes that use the airport don’t have access to the full taxiway and must “back-taxi” down the runway. “It is not the safest of conditions,” Swafford said.
He asked the commission to take over the contract to finish the widening — expected to cost the county about $1.9 million. It’s also expected the Federal Aviation Administration will eventually reimburse the money, however it is financed.
The five-member County Commission approved the measure, though Graham and one other member voiced concern. “They should have never started that project without having money in hand,” said commissioner Todd Pownall. “The taxpayers should not be bailing them out because they did not do things correctly.”
Swafford acknowledged that “in hindsight, certainly we could have stopped the project before the bond validation was done. The thought that the bond (issue) would be challenged never crossed our minds,” Swafford said. After coun ty and airport authority approval, “generally it’s a done deal.”
Graham told Swafford he would not vote for a separate taxiway extension that’s also planned to prepare for airline opera- fire station are among projects on hold until an environmental assessment is done.
Both Graham and Pownall said they think the airport authority should get the money for the taxiway work from the company it has partnered with for the commercialization, Silver Comet Terminal Partners. Silver Comet’s Brett Smith last year expressed a willingness to pay for the project if necessary.
But Swafford said the project would lose eligibility for FAA reimbursement if an entity other than the county or the airport authority pays.
Swafford and Smith, along with commission chairman David Austin, are the main champions of the commercialization idea, saying it will not only bring limited airline service but also draw related aviation businesses to the lightly used airport.
Opponents, many of whom live near the airport, say the plan could lead to more noise and congestion than ever en visioned.
The funding snarl for taxiway work also has prompted an attempt to change a state law. Before turning to the county for money out of the general fund, airport officials got a $1 million loan from the Paulding County Industrial Building Authority to start the work. Swafford heads both authorities.
That, too, was challenged in court by residents, whose attorney argued the building authority can fund projects like factories and processing plants, but not airport taxiways.
After a judge voiced concerns about the authority’s powers, Paulding airport authority attorney Tom Cable asked state Rep. Howard Maxwell, R-Dallas, to introduce legislation to change wording in the state constitutional amendment that created the building authority. Maxwell issued notice in early February that he intended to do so. The outcome of that issue could determine whether the authority can issue loans for future airport work.
Pownall criticized the move to change the law in the middle of a court case, saying it wasn’t discussed with other county officials including commissioners who vote to fund the authority with taxpayer dollars.
On Tuesday, after learning that a draft of the legislation had been drawn up weeks earlier without their knowledge, commissioners voted 4-1 to table a measure supporting the legislation. Pownall said he thinks the wording would give the authority “way too much freedom and power,” adding that when things go wrong, “it comes back to us.”
THE STORY SO FAR
Paulding County and a private company, Silver Comet Terminal, last year announced a plan to make the Paulding airport usable for airline operations — potentially turning it into metro Atlanta’s second commercial airport. Silver Comet said it would seek an airline to provide limited service to leisure destinations. The plan drew fire from some Paulding residents who raised noise and congestion concerns. Delta Air Lines, the biggest carrier at Hartsfield-Jackson International, also opposes a second airport. Paulding County Commission Chairman David Austin, who backs the airport plan, has publicly accused Delta of orchestrating legal challenges.
BOB ANDRES / BANDRES@AJC.COM
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
naturegirl said:
:thumbsup I was just wondering about the crashing.
I am so busy this time of year, but I did want to see it. I put it up as soon as I arrived home and let it play while I was baking. I do hate that I missed the beginning, short synopsis, or will it be available?
LisaC
I'm here to spin the moral compass.
naturegirl said:Unless you have three separate phone numbers it's highly unlikely you got three phone calls. The meeting went great, great turn out and the live stream almost crashed the system.
It may be "unlikely," but it did happen. Three messages in a row same woman's voice, same message about the meeting being at Bethany Christian Church. Go figure.