Chick Fil A

unionmom said:
LTD, I agree that Mark has a legitimate issue with Dan Cathy but he said that anyone that patronizes Chick-fil-A is against him ... against Mark. If we go to Chick-fil-A, particularly today, we must have an issue with Mark.

yes that is what bothered me. I tried to say I didn't hate him or anything, but he said I can't be his friend if I eat at an establishment that hates him...that makes me sad. I didn't participate in today's events mainly because I had other lunch plans...but I wasn't planning on it anyways...will that mean I am never going there again, heck no, I love CFA food. I was merely stating that just because I eat there does not mean i hate him, had nothing to do with today's events.
 
I just don't know how to explain this any better than I have. I've failed to make you all understand that I'm not for the government intrusion. I'm not against his right to speak. I just said that I won't patronize that business because of the active work promoted by the organizations it supports. And if a person can continue to support that business you are not someone I want in my life. I'm sorry. And trust me, I'm sad over it too.
 
Sorry that you can't see it as anything else, Mark. I'm sorry too that you can't respect the huge 1st amendment issue that exists in this as well and how that is bigger than you, me, or anyone. I know for some people it is about the ssm issue but not for everyone. You do what you need to do but know that you're interpreting the actions of many wrong.
 
C. Mark said:
I just don't know how to explain this any better than I have. I've failed to make you all understand that I'm not for the government intrusion. I'm not against his right to speak. I just said that I won't patronize that business because of the active work promoted by the organizations it supports. And if a person can continue to support that business you are not someone I want in my life. I'm sorry. And trust me, I'm sad over it too.

Just know that you maybe turning your back on folks who support your cause... (see my post on page #5)
 
naturegirl said:
I dunno, I think it's all so subjective. It would be like me saying I can't use Mark as a real estate agent because he doesn't believe in church.

I would never base a decision on what someone believes unless there was a threat to my life or my family's. To say I'm not going to buy something because of a lifestyle difference is of no advantage to me and it only serves to enhance the bigotry that exists in this world, we're all guilty of judging others based on their beliefs and/or lifestyle.

Let it go, I'm much more interested in living than spending the rest of my days being angry about something that has little impact on my life. 50 years ago, black people couldn't even drink out of the same water fountain as white people. 100 years ago black people were 3/5 of a human, 250 years ago our ancestors stole land from Native Americans and exiled them to a small piece of the US, away from "civilized people".

I can only tell you, the way you chose to live your life is your decision and yours alone. It's not my place to say what is right and what is wrong. I can only take care of me and mine and help where I see a need.

Well said!!! :thumbsup
 
C. Mark said:
I just don't know how to explain this any better than I have. I've failed to make you all understand that I'm not for the government intrusion. I'm not against his right to speak. I just said that I won't patronize that business because of the active work promoted by the organizations it supports. And if a person can continue to support that business you are not someone I want in my life. I'm sorry. And trust me, I'm sad over it too.

Reading this from you Mark also makes me sad too....I know I've had the pleasure of knowing you, we have had some great times out doing the Karaoke thing...back in the day not to long ago...I enjoy having you as a friend on my facebook and enjoy reading some of your post.....But people do change and make changes in their life..and choose who they want to be in their life.....I've made a change in my life to follow Christ...and that's who I am .....I am not perfect by no means but strive everyday to make it right......I completely understand and respect your feelings.......just wanted to let you know....I love you and pray for you everyday....even on your bad days...LOL....even though you don't believe in my God....He believes in you and so do I.....if you choose to delete me on your face book please know....If you ever change your mind....I will be there for you...no matter what....I can't believe your leaving me over a CHICKEN SANDWICH...I thought I meant more than that....J/K
BTW.....You will have to be the one that deletes me....I won't delete you.....you'll always be my friend in my heart..
 
C. Mark said:
I just don't know how to explain this any better than I have. I've failed to make you all understand that I'm not for the government intrusion. I'm not against his right to speak. I just said that I won't patronize that business because of the active work promoted by the organizations it supports. And if a person can continue to support that business you are not someone I want in my life. I'm sorry. And trust me, I'm sad over it too.

I'd hate to see someone decide who to be friends with or not based on where they buy lunch :eek: I sure don't base my decision to buy a product or not on what the owners of the business owners "think" about gay marriage. If that were the case, I wouldn't be going to buy an Apple computer this week or allow my book to be on Amazon.

How 'bout we just go to Chik-Fil-A is disguise? :Ninja :laugh
 
Grey Colson said:
C. Mark said:
I just don't know how to explain this any better than I have. I've failed to make you all understand that I'm not for the government intrusion. I'm not against his right to speak. I just said that I won't patronize that business because of the active work promoted by the organizations it supports. And if a person can continue to support that business you are not someone I want in my life. I'm sorry. And trust me, I'm sad over it too.

I'd hate to see someone decide who to be friends with or not based on where they buy lunch :eek: I sure don't base my decision to buy a product or not on what the owners of the business owners "think" about gay marriage. If that were the case, I wouldn't be going to buy an Apple computer this week or allow my book to be on Amazon.

How 'bout we just go to Chik-Fil-A is disguise? :Ninja :laugh

See, I was right, (I need a crown) eating fast food is bad for you all! High cholesterol, diabetes, makes you fat, and loses friends. I win.











:laugh Kidding, people! Well, maybe, sort of, um, yeah, ......
 
Cheezy said:
naturegirl said:
I dunno, I think it's all so subjective. It would be like me saying I can't use Mark as a real estate agent because he doesn't believe in church.

I would never base a decision on what someone believes unless there was a threat to my life or my family's. To say I'm not going to buy something because of a lifestyle difference is of no advantage to me and it only serves to enhance the bigotry that exists in this world, we're all guilty of judging others based on their beliefs and/or lifestyle.

Let it go, I'm much more interested in living than spending the rest of my days being angry about something that has little impact on my life. 50 years ago, black people couldn't even drink out of the same water fountain as white people. 100 years ago black people were 3/5 of a human, 250 years ago our ancestors stole land from Native Americans and exiled them to a small piece of the US, away from "civilized people".

I can only tell you, the way you chose to live your life is your decision and yours alone. It's not my place to say what is right and what is wrong. I can only take care of me and mine and help where I see a need.

Well said!!! :thumbsup

I agree!!
 
C. Mark said:
I just don't know how to explain this any better than I have. I've failed to make you all understand that I'm not for the government intrusion. I'm not against his right to speak. I just said that I won't patronize that business because of the active work promoted by the organizations it supports. And if a person can continue to support that business you are not someone I want in my life. I'm sorry. And trust me, I'm sad over it too.
I'm sorry to hear that - I wish you nothing but love and happiness in your life. I will keep you in my prayers! :love
 
Guard Dad said:
Winchester said:
Guard Dad said:
I wonder how many gay people refused to vote for Obama after his former position on marriage?

Obama @ Saddleback Church -Defines Marriage

Ummm, GD, this is from 2007 or something close. He had now reversed his opinion on this topic.....just everything else.....he lied.

I know, but I wonder how many gays voted for him last time?
I think this article sums it up. Not once was his stand on gay marriage mentioned.

With a message that included gay people both when he needed the votes and when he had clinched victory, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama won the White House Nov. 4. The triumph not only marked an historic moment in American history—with his election as the first African American as president—but a dramatic improvement in the political climate in Washington, D.C., for LGBT people.

In heavily gay precincts throughout the nation, the article states, LGBT voters voted overwhelmingly for Obama. Only 61% in California, but 85% in SF. 83% in Philly's 2nd and 5th wards.

The message was controlled by the media.

http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/ARTICLE.php?AID=19735
 
Winchester said:
Guard Dad said:
I wonder how many gay people refused to vote for Obama after his former position on marriage?

Obama @ Saddleback Church -Defines Marriage

Ummm, GD, this is from 2007 or something close. He had now reversed his opinion on this topic.....just everything else.....he lied.

and yeah, well, another election is coming up. He is now hoping for the "gay" vote. I detest that man with every fiber of my being.
 
You've all still missed my point. I swear I don't know what I'm doing wrong that I can't convince you that I agree with the right to free speech. I agree with a person's right to do what they want, when they want, etc. I just can't see how anyone could call themselves my friend and continue to support organizations that support bigotry. We've gone way beyond his freedom of speech. It's not about that at all. I think the mayors of Boston and Chicago were idiots to say what they said. This isn't about that. It never was for me. It was about people that say the love and respect me rubbing that damn chicken sandwich in my face because they thought they were fighting for someone's right to free speech. All the while they were simply fired up by a hack politician and that scares the s.hit out of me. For the first time in 20 years, I was genuinely frightened yesterday. Sitting in my own office where there were at least three people spouting the mob mentality. I haven't been afraid to be open about who I was in 2 decades. I can't say that anymore. And frankly, I don't give a rat's ass if you understand it now or not. I can't make you. And I'm tired of trying. Like me, don't like me. I can't live in fear of anyone's disapproval.
 
If I was in your position, Mark, I wouldn't care what other people thought. I do believe yesterday's actions had nothing to do with being against the gay lifestyle, but rather showing support for yet another Christian being bashed and their livelyhood threatened by government representatives.

It would be very difficulty for anyone to say that the Christian life style hasn't been the target of constant bashing by the left leaning media and political types for decades. It is actually the "IN" thing these days. And, for quite a while we took it....and took it....and turned the other cheek and took it some more. Many of them have run out of cheeks to turn. Being called bigots because they have a certain belief? Really?

The argument from non-Christians used to mainly be, "Don't try to push your beliefs off on me". Well, the reverse is just as valid a complaint. Are Christians to be forced to say, "Yes, we accept what you believe to be right" or not say anything at all?

Believe what you think is right...let others believe what they think is right AND allow anyone on either side say it without the threat of being "banned" from somewhere or called bigots, etc. If you want to limit your circle of friends to those who just agree with you, then you have the freedom to do that also.
 
Grey Colson said:
I'd hate to see someone decide who to be friends with or not based on where they buy lunch :eek: I sure don't base my decision to buy a product or not on what the owners of the business owners "think" about gay marriage. If that were the case, I wouldn't be going to buy an Apple computer this week or allow my book to be on Amazon.
This is why you're a writer. You've managed to put my opinion on the matter into clear words.
 
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