Boy Scouts

I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.
 
Here is the press release:

In February, the Boy Scouts of America embarked on the most comprehensive listening exercise in its history to consider the impact of potential changes to its membership standards policy on the organization and gather perspectives from inside and outside of the Scouting family. This review created an outpouring of feedback from the Scouting family and the American public, from both those who agree with the current policy and those who support a change.

Scouting's review confirmed that this issue remains among the most complex and challenging issues facing the BSA and society today. Even with the wide range of input, it is extremely difficult to accurately quantify the potential impact of maintaining or changing the current policy. While perspectives and opinions vary significantly, parents, adults in the Scouting community, and teens alike tend to agree that youth should not be denied the benefits of Scouting.

For this reason, the Executive Committee, on behalf of the National Executive Board, wrote a resolution for consideration that would remove the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone and would maintain the current membership policy for all adult leaders of the Boy Scouts of America. The proposed resolution also reinforces that Scouting is a youth program, and any sexual conduct, whether heterosexual or homosexual, by youth of Scouting age is contrary to the virtues of Scouting.

The voting members will take action on the resolution during the Boy Scouts of America's National Annual Meeting next month.

America needs Scouting, and our policies must be based on what is in the best interest of our nation's children. Throughout this process, we work to stay focused on that which unites us—reaching and serving young people to help them grow into good, strong citizens. Our priority remains to continue accomplishing incredible things for young people and the communities we serve.
 
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.
 
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I agree, too many people that don't understand the program. The program is designed for kids, around kids and that includes young adults. I applaud the fact that they let the kids be kids, sexual orientation should not be a concern because the program has NOTHING to do with sex. It's for the kids, not the adults.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.
I agree.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Are we going to do 20 more pages on this? Yes, I am okay with boys sharing a tent, even if one is gay. Just because he is gay does not mean he has the hots for another boy in the troup. Good grief, do you have the hots for every woman you see, I can answer, you don't. They are in sleeping bags and if all of them are comfortable with the situation then I do not see a problem.
Many school trips are taken where they always separate the boys and girls into rooms. What about the girl that is gay or the boy that is gay? It happens all the time GD.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

First, I should think segregation of gays/straights could be worked out if notified in advance. Second, all sexual activity is prohibited under Scout guidelines, the way I read it. Third, wouldn't a Scout know to holler/make noise/whatever?

I lean towards not having a problem with this decision (I say "lean" because I've never been involved with Scouting, so I'd be talking out of turn if I acted like I knew what the org was like). If the leaders don't have a problem with it, I don't have a problem with it.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Having been involved for almost 20 years, the boys will not tent with someone they don't want to. I assure you it rarely happens.
 
mei lan said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

First, I should think segregation of gays/straights could be worked out if notified in advance. Second, all sexual activity is prohibited under Scout guidelines, the way I read it. Third, wouldn't a Scout know to holler/make noise/whatever?

I lean towards not having a problem with this decision (I say "lean" because I've never been involved with Scouting, so I'd be talking out of turn if I acted like I knew what the org was like). If the leaders don't have a problem with it, I don't have a problem with it.
I agree. I can honestly say, having a son in scouts, that I would not have a problem with it.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Are we going to do 20 more pages on this? Yes, I am okay with boys sharing a tent, even if one is gay. Just because he is gay does not mean he has the hots for another boy in the troup. Good grief, do you have the hots for every woman you see, I can answer, you don't. They are in sleeping bags and if all of them are comfortable with the situation then I do not see a problem.
Many school trips are taken where they always separate the boys and girls into rooms. What about the girl that is gay or the boy that is gay? It happens all the time GD.

Then let's allow girls and boys to sleep in the same tents at summer camp, etc. We don't know that they will be attracted to each other...right?
 
naturegirl said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Having been involved for almost 20 years, the boys will not tent with someone they don't want to. I assure you it rarely happens.

:thumbsup
 
naturegirl said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Having been involved for almost 20 years, the boys will not tent with someone they don't want to. I assure you it rarely happens.

Which means the gay kids will be outcasts in some cases.
 
naturegirl said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Having been involved for almost 20 years, the boys will not tent with someone they don't want to. I assure you it rarely happens.
Exactly! It has never happened in all the campouts my son has gone on and trust me, there are a few boys that he doesn't get along with at all.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Are we going to do 20 more pages on this? Yes, I am okay with boys sharing a tent, even if one is gay. Just because he is gay does not mean he has the hots for another boy in the troup. Good grief, do you have the hots for every woman you see, I can answer, you don't. They are in sleeping bags and if all of them are comfortable with the situation then I do not see a problem.
Many school trips are taken where they always separate the boys and girls into rooms. What about the girl that is gay or the boy that is gay? It happens all the time GD.

Then let's allow girls and boys to sleep in the same tents at summer camp, etc. We don't know that they will be attracted to each other...right?

:girlsaysno :huh Again, in school they separate by girls and boys. Some do happen to be gay. And anyway if one is gay and the other is not, what is the problem?
 
Guard Dad said:
naturegirl said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Having been involved for almost 20 years, the boys will not tent with someone they don't want to. I assure you it rarely happens.

Which means the gay kids will be outcasts in some cases.
Some. Just like the smelly kid, or the fat kid, or the one that farts that no one wants to be in a tent with. Just saying.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Are we going to do 20 more pages on this? Yes, I am okay with boys sharing a tent, even if one is gay. Just because he is gay does not mean he has the hots for another boy in the troup. Good grief, do you have the hots for every woman you see, I can answer, you don't. They are in sleeping bags and if all of them are comfortable with the situation then I do not see a problem.
Many school trips are taken where they always separate the boys and girls into rooms. What about the girl that is gay or the boy that is gay? It happens all the time GD.

Then let's allow girls and boys to sleep in the same tents at summer camp, etc. We don't know that they will be attracted to each other...right?

I don't exactly agree with the correlation. IF it were a huge group of Scouts - Boy and Girl - I wouldn't have much of a problem with it for the reasons I stated above (although I don't really see why they would need to do it and the individual orgs would probably not want to do it, but we're talking hypothetical here). Scouts have a greater internal discipline structure, and consequences for breaking the rules. If it were just summer campers, no. I wouldn't think it was a good idea.
 
I'm OK with gays in the military and the boy scouts. As long as they can shoot or do proper boy scout activities why not let them join? One of my biggest pet peeves is civilians complaining about gays in the military. Obviously, these gays are more brave than you because they had the intestinal fortitude to sign up. Who cares if a gay kid joins the boy scouts? I've taught my children to not judge others. Therefore my children do not judge. They do not discriminate people based on color, hair style, weight, or anything else. I think you "adults" need to follow in the footsteps of some of these children. They are obviously more mature than yourselves.
 
Guard Dad said:
naturegirl said:
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
I'm saddened by this because they bowed to pressure from people who have nothing to do with scouting.

I disagree with the nothing about scouting, but anyway, good for them. :CLAP If a boy wants the experience of being a scout I think that he should be able to as any other boy. Sexual orientation should not be an issue.

So you're OK with putting two boys sleeping together in a tent, even when one of them might have the hots for the other?

Having been involved for almost 20 years, the boys will not tent with someone they don't want to. I assure you it rarely happens.

Which means the gay kids will be outcasts in some cases.

So they can learn character and discipline. I was an outcast several times in my life for one reason or another, and trust me - I'm a stronger person for it.
 
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