Ah the unintended consequences

gog8tors

gog8tors

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As I recall I pointed out how this whole trans thing would have consequences. Well here ya go. BTW I think he should be able to keep all the medals.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/03/high-school-boy-wins-all-state-honors-in-girls-track-and-field/

Haines senior Nattaphon Wangyot–who self-identifies as a girl–advanced to the state finals in the 100-meter and 200-meter events. He won fifth place in the 100-meter dash and third place in the 200-meter. In both events, he competed against girls as young as ninth grade.



One of the girls Wangyot beat out for a slot at the state meet, Hutchison runner Emma Daniels, took issue with allowing a male athlete to compete in girls events.
 
They're all going to get medals anyway so nothing will come of it. I hope he/she and his/her parents are proud.
 
Well I would love to know what all those women empowerment people have to say about it. This is not what title lX was about.
Disclaimer: I never thought that title was fair any way.
 
She has been taking hormone therapy for a while, she is very small in stature, she has been a she for a long time, and it was and has been in the rules for a long time. She plays in the band, on other sports teams, and it is all ok and good until now?

I think unintended consequence really does not apply. I am pretty sure transgenders have been playing on sports teams of the opposite sex since the 70's.
 
ShoeDiva said:
She has been taking hormone therapy for a while, she is very small in stature, she has been a she for a long time, and it was and has been in the rules for a long time. She plays in the band, on other sports teams, and it is all ok and good until now?

I think unintended consequence really does not apply. I am pretty sure transgenders have been playing on sports teams of the opposite sex since the 70's.
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Ahhh, makes sense now. He got picked on as a boy since he was the smallest one on the team and decided to become a girl so he could compete. Got it. Give him a trophy. Proud of you son.
 
ShoeDiva said:
She has been taking hormone therapy for a while, she is very small in stature, she has been a she for a long time, and it was and has been in the rules for a long time. She plays in the band, on other sports teams, and it is all ok and good until now?

I think unintended consequence really does not apply. I am pretty sure transgenders have been playing on sports teams of the opposite sex since the 70's.
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I'm pretty sure this hasn't been going on since the 70s. Well at least not in my very diversified, urban high school.

FTR:
Title IX

The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR) enforces, among other statutes, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. Title IX protects people from discrimination based on sex in education programs or activities that receive Federal financial assistance. Title IX states that:

No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/tix_dis.html
 
From the GHSAA http://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/Constitution/Constitution2015-16Complete.pdf
GIRLS ON BOYS TEAMS n
SITUATION: A girl wants to be on the high school wrestling team made up of boys. If she meets eligibility requirements, may she do so?
INTERPRETATION: Yes. Girls may participate on boys teams when there is no girls team in that sport at that school. n
SITUATION: A female student desires to try out for the boys’ baseball team. May she do this?
INTERPRETATION: Yes, she is allowed to try out since there is no girls’ baseball team. n

SITUATION: A male student desires to play on a girls volleyball team. Is this legal?
INTERPRETATION: No. The Federal Title IX legislation and the Georgia Equity in Sports Act both specify that the traditionally represented gender in athletics (males) may not play on teams designed for the traditionally under-represented gender (females).
 
ShoeDiva said:
I am pretty sure transgenders have been playing on sports teams of the opposite sex since the 70's.
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Not even enough to constitute a hand full, and the bulk of them were in California until the last few years.

Some real statistics:

Since Social Security was started in 1936, a grand total of 135,368 people have officially changed their name to one of the opposite gender (Ex: Bruce to Caitlyn, just to use a well-known case). Only 30,006 of those also changed their gender classification.

In the 2010 census, 89,667 had changed their names to one of the other gender, and 21,833 of those also changed their gender classification. Of the total U.S. population in 2010, that amounts to .00029 and .00007% respectively.

The highest estimate of the transgender percentage puts them at .003%. But that number is based on all who "identify" as the opposite sex, which can mean almost anything.

My best guess would be that the numbers from the 2010 census are low due to some transgenders not coming out of the closet so to speak, and the latter is very high. I suspect a figure of .001% would more than cover it.

So no, I doubt that until recently, there were enough playing on sports teams to count on your fingers.

But you can bet that under these wide open new guidelines from the Obama administration, there will be many more claiming to be transgender. And for all sorts of reasons, most of them not good ones.
 
It is indeed a fact that since the late 70's the opposite sex has played on the opposite sports team. I did not say high school or professional, just that they did. Due to that fact I do not see the unintended consequence, and really even without that, why is it a consequence?

Gog8tors I know and am very familiar with the rules of Title IX.

JMan she has been a transgender for years, it has nothing to do with the boys team.

Yes GD, it is a small part of the population that has admitted to being transgendered. And?
 
honeybunny said:
The law either is what it says it is, or it is not.

Obama does not have the authority to rewrite laws to suit his agenda.

;)
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I believe that the updated guidelines in reference to Title IX state that transgenders do fall under TitleIX. This was in 2013 or 2014, not since the bathroom bru ha ha. Also many states have rules and guideline allowing for transgenders to compete on teams that are not of their birth sex. Georgia is not one of them, but many are. Alaska, Florida, Washington, just a few off the top of my head.
 
ShoeDiva said:
I believe that the updated guidelines in reference to Title IX state that transgenders do fall under TitleIX. This was in 2013 or 2014, not since the bathroom bru ha ha. Also many states have rules and guideline allowing for transgenders to compete on teams that are not of their birth sex. Georgia is not one of them, but many are. Alaska, Florida, Washington, just a few off the top of my head.
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Updated guidelines are not law.
 
ShoeDiva said:
It is indeed a fact that since the late 70's the opposite sex has played on the opposite sports team. I did not say high school or professional, just that they did. Due to that fact I do not see the unintended consequence, and really even without that, why is it a consequence?

Gog8tors I know and am very familiar with the rules of Title IX.

JMan she has been a transgender for years, it has nothing to do with the boys team.

Yes GD, it is a small part of the population that has admitted to being transgendered. And?
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Yes those are called co ed teams, and we are talking about high school althetics not rec teams.
The consequences are the real girls who may have colleges looking at them for scholarships are now having to compete for the FEMALE scholarships against a male. That is not the purpose of title lX.
 
I think what's most telling is that even as a senior competing against females, some in their freshman class, the best he placed was 3rd and 5th. I think it's fair to say he wouldn't have placed if competing on the male team. That's not to be taken as an attack towards female athletes either, there are some very fast girls but traditionally the male times are faster then female times at competitive track meets. My only issue is that other females lost their opportunity to compete and possibly a scholarship opportunity.
 
J-man said:
I think what's most telling is that even as a senior competing against females, some in their freshman class, the best he placed was 3rd and 5th. I think it's fair to say he wouldn't have placed if competing on the male team. That's not to be taken as an attack towards female athletes either, there are some very fast girls but traditionally the male times are faster then female times at competitive track meets. My only issue is that other females lost their opportunity to compete and possibly a scholarship opportunity.
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^^^^THIS
 
gog8tors said:
Yes those are called co ed teams, and we are talking about high school althetics not rec teams.
The consequences are the real girls who may have colleges looking at them for scholarships are now having to compete for the FEMALE scholarships against a male. That is not the purpose of title lX.
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Not co ed, some are high school and others are college.
 
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