A conversation about race

[Sadie612]

I must be lost again.. Um said no one was out of line so who needs to apologies and what happened... Am I missing something

 

[ShoeDiva]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtiJN6yiik

I love this song.


Darn youtube is just linking again for me.

 

[honeybunny]

Sorry for offending anyone, but that is JMO, and we all have that right. I am just sad and sickened that we cannot all live and work together, and I do so want to live in peace again. This crime, killing, rioting, fighting, anger, hate is not something I have ever been able to understand or deal with. We just need love and God back in our lives and sure haven't seen much of that lately. Why is it so hard to live by the 10 commandments? Yes, I love my neighbor(s) but I fear many now.

This goes to exactly what the OP was talking about, we cannot have an "honest discussion" about race
without examining the fact that young black males commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime.

Here is an excellent analysis of the complexities surrounding that truly honest discussion,
if we are prevented from acknowledging the real problem there can be no hope for solution:


Eric Holder Asks for Honest Discussion on Race; The WaPo's Liberal Columnist
Richard Cohen Offers Some Honest Discussion, and Is Immediately Called a Racist



http://minx.cc/?post=341714

 

[ShoeDiva]

Sorry for offending anyone, but that is JMO, and we all have that right. I am just sad and sickened that we cannot all live and work together, and I do so want to live in peace again. This crime, killing, rioting, fighting, anger, hate is not something I have ever been able to understand or deal with. We just need love and God back in our lives and sure haven't seen much of that lately. Why is it so hard to live by the 10 commandments? Yes, I love my neighbor(s) but I fear many now.

This goes to exactly what the OP was talking about, we cannot have an "honest discussion" about race
without examining the fact that young black males commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime.

Here is an excellent analysis of the complexities surrounding that truly honest discussion,
if we are prevented from acknowledging the real problem there can be no hope for solution:


Eric Holder Asks for Honest Discussion on Race; The WaPo's Liberal Columnist
Richard Cohen Offers Some Honest Discussion, and Is Immediately Called a Racist



http://minx.cc/?post=341714

I have no issue with someone saying that, acknowledging that there are complex problems when it comes to race. That is not what was said in the post I have issue.

 

[honeybunny]

Sorry for offending anyone, but that is JMO, and we all have that right. I am just sad and sickened that we cannot all live and work together, and I do so want to live in peace again. This crime, killing, rioting, fighting, anger, hate is not something I have ever been able to understand or deal with. We just need love and God back in our lives and sure haven't seen much of that lately. Why is it so hard to live by the 10 commandments? Yes, I love my neighbor(s) but I fear many now.

This goes to exactly what the OP was talking about, we cannot have an "honest discussion" about race
without examining the fact that young black males commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime.

Here is an excellent analysis of the complexities surrounding that truly honest discussion,
if we are prevented from acknowledging the real problem there can be no hope for solution:


Eric Holder Asks for Honest Discussion on Race; The WaPo's Liberal Columnist
Richard Cohen Offers Some Honest Discussion, and Is Immediately Called a Racist



http://minx.cc/?post=341714

I have no issue with someone saying that, acknowledging that there are complex problems when it comes to race. That is not what was said in the post I have issue.

Parts of that post were very accurate, while I strongly disagree with other parts. That disagreement does
not mean that I'm ready to call SG a racist, a word which effectively ends any hope of honest discussion.

 

[Guard Dad]

Thread closed until I get time to remove the ugly comments, then I will reopen.

 

[Guard Dad]

Mean remarks removed and thread reopened.

Anymore snide remarks or arguing about moderation will earn someone a Flat Tire.

Please resume discussion.

Thank you

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Honest discussion about race issues in this country are always labeled as racists because the left knows the honesty and understanding of what truly is going on by these political pimps will destroy their liberal party. Don't hold your breath waiting on Holder and Obama to start thinking rationally.

 

[Sadie612]

is it ironice that I am watching TVONE ( black sitcoms) while typing in this thread... I just love A different WOrld, Good Times, Gimme A Break

 

[unionmom]

Honest discussion about race issues in this country are always labeled as racists because the left knows the honesty and understanding of what truly is going on by these political pimps will destroy their liberal party. Don't hold your breath waiting on Holder and Obama to start thinking rationally.

I found it horribly irrelevant and irresponsible of Obama to relate himself 35 years ago to something happening today. Racism still exists but it is not the same as it was then and he simply fans the flames with comments like that.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Honest discussion about race issues in this country are always labeled as racists because the left knows the honesty and understanding of what truly is going on by these political pimps will destroy their liberal party. Don't hold your breath waiting on Holder and Obama to start thinking rationally.

I found it horribly irrelevant and irresponsible of Obama to relate himself 35 years ago to something happening today. Racism still exists but it is not the same as it was then and he simply fans the flames with comments like that.

And lets also remember that prejudice and racism are two different things too. As for Obama, that guy doesn't surprise me at all. I just hope America is finally seeing him for what he is and also what he has surrounded himself with. Danger United States Danger.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Sorry for offending anyone, but that is JMO, and we all have that right. I am just sad and sickened that we cannot all live and work together, and I do so want to live in peace again. This crime, killing, rioting, fighting, anger, hate is not something I have ever been able to understand or deal with. We just need love and God back in our lives and sure haven't seen much of that lately. Why is it so hard to live by the 10 commandments? Yes, I love my neighbor(s) but I fear many now.

This goes to exactly what the OP was talking about, we cannot have an "honest discussion" about race
without examining the fact that young black males commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime.

Here is an excellent analysis of the complexities surrounding that truly honest discussion,
if we are prevented from acknowledging the real problem there can be no hope for solution:


Eric Holder Asks for Honest Discussion on Race; The WaPo's Liberal Columnist
Richard Cohen Offers Some Honest Discussion, and Is Immediately Called a Racist



http://minx.cc/?post=341714

I have no issue with someone saying that, acknowledging that there are complex problems when it comes to race. That is not what was said in the post I have issue.

Parts of that post were very accurate, while I strongly disagree with other parts. That disagreement does
not mean that I'm ready to call SG a racist, a word which effectively ends any hope of honest discussion.

I agree that race relations is very complex. I do not agree with the first post (not quoted here) that we should be separate and we can not get along, not safe, and will always make whites pay. What exactly do we call that? :dunno

 

[J-man]

I'll take my grandmother's advise on this topic, I just won't discuss it. The direction this thread took is a prime example of why many refuse to discuss politics or religion outside the walls of their home. Generally speaking, people are not capable of controlling their emotions or tempering their opinions enough to have an honest dialog on serious issues without allowing their upbringing, life experience, or personal agenda to affect their conversation.

I'll take the default baptist approach, let's all pray about it. That may actually be the most effective conversation we could ever have on the topic.

 

[ShoeDiva]

I find a lot of things people say to be offensive but they have the right to say them and if I expect to be able to post without being attacked, no matter how stupid I can be at times, I need to be able to afford the same to others. I found the post to be one that goes completely against my experiences in life and against pretty much everything that I believe but there is nothing good to come from attacking the poster.

I agree. And, how can you (the proverbial you) expect to have a civil discussion, and for things to get better, if opinions are attacked? :dunno

I've been offended several times and walked away. It's really not that hard. :whistle

Hmmm, somehow my accolade Good for you got deleted. Apparently that must have been an accident.
I will add since I am having to repost that I can do that and have done that at times. It is much too hard on an open board (For ME) when you are specifically offended me to just walk away and not say anything. Though (even today) I have tried to be nice.That really is a good thing if you can. :thumbsup

 

[ShoeDiva]

I'll take my grandmother's advise on this topic, I just won't discuss it. The direction this thread took is a prime example of why many refuse to discuss politics or religion outside the walls of their home. Generally speaking, people are not capable of controlling their emotions or tempering their opinions enough to have an honest dialog on serious issues without allowing their upbringing, life experience, or personal agenda to affect their conversation.

I'll take the default baptist approach, let's all pray about it. That may actually be the most effective conversation we could ever have on the topic.

:thumbsup I have been praying on this topic since I read it! ray

 

[honeybunny]

Sorry for offending anyone, but that is JMO, and we all have that right. I am just sad and sickened that we cannot all live and work together, and I do so want to live in peace again. This crime, killing, rioting, fighting, anger, hate is not something I have ever been able to understand or deal with. We just need love and God back in our lives and sure haven't seen much of that lately. Why is it so hard to live by the 10 commandments? Yes, I love my neighbor(s) but I fear many now.

This goes to exactly what the OP was talking about, we cannot have an "honest discussion" about race
without examining the fact that young black males commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime.

Here is an excellent analysis of the complexities surrounding that truly honest discussion,
if we are prevented from acknowledging the real problem there can be no hope for solution:


Eric Holder Asks for Honest Discussion on Race; The WaPo's Liberal Columnist
Richard Cohen Offers Some Honest Discussion, and Is Immediately Called a Racist



http://minx.cc/?post=341714

I have no issue with someone saying that, acknowledging that there are complex problems when it comes to race. That is not what was said in the post I have issue.

Parts of that post were very accurate, while I strongly disagree with other parts. That disagreement does
not mean that I'm ready to call SG a racist, a word which effectively ends any hope of honest discussion.

I agree that race relations is very complex. I do not agree with the first post (not quoted here) that we should be separate and we can not get along, not safe, and will always make whites pay. What exactly do we call that? :dunno

One person's opinion.

 

[naturegirl]

Honest discussion about race issues in this country are always labeled as racists because the left knows the honesty and understanding of what truly is going on by these political pimps will destroy their liberal party. Don't hold your breath waiting on Holder and Obama to start thinking rationally.

I found it horribly irrelevant and irresponsible of Obama to relate himself 35 years ago to something happening today. Racism still exists but it is not the same as it was then and he simply fans the flames with comments like that.

:thumbsup

From someone that grew up a hop skip and a jump from the ghetto, I get what SG is saying. I know she doesn't feel that way about all blacks, just about the ones she doesn't know. Downtown Atlanta at midnight is not a fun place to be, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But you do what you must.

Since Obama got elected, it seems the blacks that hate whites have become more and more outspoken. It's like they are more entitled because there is a White-Black person in the White House. Face it, there are many that literally HATE us because of our skin color, I'm thinking that guy on Pennsylvania Avenue might be one of them. Do the haters not understand he couldn't have been elected without some of the white vote??

I was doing family stuff last night and I must say I am disappointed by some of the replies in this thread.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, everyone. Because they don't agree with you does not give you the right to call them names or feel they are somehow inferior because they don't see things your way. Good discussion is limited when the name calling and "better than you" attitudes come out. When two or more go after a single poster, it looks a lot like bullying. It is not limited to this thread either.

Whether you want to believe it or not, people can't read your mind when you are typing and they have nothing to go by but the letters you type.

I know SG personally and you could not EVER find a more loving and giving person on this earth. She has a lot on her plate and somehow manages to hold it together. She would give you the shirt off her back if you needed it, in fact I've seen her do that exact thing.

:Stepping off my soapbox:

 

[Sadie612]

i am wearing a white shirt and black pants right now..I hope they get along. I just can't handle my outfit fighting today

 

[naturegirl]

i am wearing a white shirt and black pants right now..I hope they get along. I just can't handle my outfit fighting today

As long as neither one are strangling you it should be OK. :whistle

 

[Blazing Saddles]

i am wearing a white shirt and black pants right now..I hope they get along. I just can't handle my outfit fighting today

When I profile, I primarily look at the person's apparel because that is a form of expression that's easy for folks to display. If YOU dress a certain way, I will take you a certain way.