This is what I've been trying to warn people about.
https://www.conservativereview.com/...2-straight-head-to-head-polls-against-clinton
https://www.conservativereview.com/...2-straight-head-to-head-polls-against-clinton
Trump Loses To Hillary In 12 Head-To-head Polls
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ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
We do not have one candidate that in reality can beat Hillary. Too many "hate" one candidate for varied reasons, and as I said a long long time ago, the democrats will get behind the nominee, no matter who it is. I have seen and heard republican clubs and their members flat out write or say they will stay home if it is not "their" candidate. Anyone thinking we will have an R in the house come this next election has darker rose colored glasses then I do. No ones fault but the party that has brought this on themselves.
lotstodo
aka "The Jackal"
Unless she is indicted, Hillary will be the next President. We had better start figuring out if and how we can hold the Senate. Hillary won't have the communication problems with Congress that Obama had. She will be a carbon copy of LBJ, as crooked as they come with a full knowledge of where all the bodies are buried and how to leverage that information to her benefit. She will get her legislation passed with a Democratic majority in just one house and a near majority in the other.
lotstodo
aka "The Jackal"
So did Trump at one point. Those days are long over.
cptlo
Pursuit Driver
Kasich still does. Rubio did as well.
lotstodo
aka "The Jackal"
Pretty much all of them did at one point. The take-away here is that the Democrats ran the most unpopular candidate in modern history, and the Republicans managed to double down on that in six months. The Republicans will be a legacy regional party for at least the next 16 years unless the Democrats find a way to implode too. Hopefully, a "new" Republican party will eventually rise from the ashes. You know, one that believes that the Constitution doesn't need changed, just reread, that the government's main job is to protect you from attack, not run your life, and that individual liberty, not paternalism, is the most precious thing on earth.
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
Okay, a candidate that can beat her and is one that at least most can agree with. That did not happen and we can go candidate by candidate and name the reasons, but that is not necessary, we know most of them. As a party with millions of republicans in the U.S. the GOP could not find a couple that they, let alone us, could agree on and solidly get behind. It is a sad realization but the WH is gone for us, at least in the near future. LTD is right and eventually the democrats will fall apart too and maybe the rise of a new republican party will happen. I would not have ever imagined the circus that politics has become in 2016.
jenilyn
Expert Driver
I found this article on Facebook and I agree wholeheartedly with it. The Republican party is growing more and more out of touch with average Americans every election cycle. Instead of pandering to average Americans they pander to the religious right. I wish they would stop talking so much about the gays and I think a lot of other Americans do to. It's time to move on.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/opinion/sunday/the-republicans-gay-freakout.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/opinion/sunday/the-republicans-gay-freakout.html
Glassdogs
Expert Driver
I promise you that I could write poll questions in a certain way and ask them in certain locations and generate whatever answers I want.
I have always thought pollsters were for sale, that they can manipulate the outcome and spread by the content and the geography of the where the polls are taken.
I have always thought pollsters were for sale, that they can manipulate the outcome and spread by the content and the geography of the where the polls are taken.
B
Boss 302
Guest
I think it's a bit premature to throw in the towel for a general election 7 months away because polls show a candidate can't win against Hillary.
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
If it were just the polls, you guys know I hate polls, I would agree with you. It is the lack of support for the candidates. Each side swears they will not vote for the other candidate whereas Hillary or maybe even old Joe if she is indicted has the support of all democrats. They seem to have something we as republicans lack. They stand together and vote together. We argue, fight, and say we are taking our toys home and not voting if "our" candidate does not get nominated. Heck, we have not even got to the nomination and I can not even imagine what kind of show and fireworks that will be!
Agreed. But I'm still concerned that the primary voters have made a huge mistake.
cptlo
Pursuit Driver
If Hillary wins, there is one person to blame: Trump.
I still wonder if that wasn't his mission all along. He and the Clintons were big buddies until he decided to run.
B
Boss 302
Guest
I place the blame on the GOPe as they have gotten away from true conservatism and fail to listen to their base. People like McConnell, Graham, McCain, and Paul Ryan have failed the conservative voter. The GOP is severely splintered and that shows in the primaries. Conservative voters don't want more of the same; they want the conservatism Reagan brought to the table.
honeybunny
Pursuit Driver
honeybunny
Pursuit Driver
7 months is an eternity in politics... anything could happen.
They told me Hillary was inevitable in 2008.
ShoeDiva
Shoes!!!!
IDK. I think if she or someone else is the nominee and not Sanders they will vote for the democrat.35% of Sanders supporters will not vote for Hillary.
