Trump Insists That Repeal and Replace is not Dead.

Glad to see him back down a bit. Maybe he will listen to reason, but I have my doubts. The problem is that he doesn't seem to have any deeply held economic understanding, and believes that if it is politically expedient, if it is what people want, it's therefore the best option. People want free stuff, politicians want to give them free stuff so they can stay in power, but there is no such thing as free stuff.
 
lotstodo said:
Glad to see him back down a bit. Maybe he will listen to reason, but I have my doubts. The problem is that he doesn't seem to have any deeply held economic understanding, and believes that if it is politically expedient, if it is what people want, it's therefore the best option. People want free stuff, politicians want to give them free stuff so they can stay in power, but there is no such thing as free stuff.
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Repeal and Replace was one of the cornerstones of his campaign. If he doesn't come through on it, there will be hell to pay.
 
I'm getting the feeling that Repeal and Replace was dead from the point that the GOP had never bothered to actually create a viable plan in the previous eight years since Obama Care came to be. It sounded to me that this last bill was a lot like Obama Care, something thrown together and never reviewed, with a bunch of add-ins to get votes and just put out there to sound like they were trying to meet their promise. However, the promise was to FIX it, not just replace it with something just as crappy.

I am sorely disappointed in this GOP congress and Trump at this point.
 
I've never been wild about the "Replace" aspect of it, because I fear we'll just get yet another big government programs that might suck a little less than Obamacare.

But the "Repeal" part is crucial to fixing this disaster.

The GOP was all but finished just a few months ago. Whether you like Trump or not; he provided the coattails for the GOP to survive this time around. If they screw this up, they are done.
 
The Sound Guy said:
I'm getting the feeling that Repeal and Replace was dead from the point that the GOP had never bothered to actually create a viable plan in the previous eight years since Obama Care came to be. It sounded to me that this last bill was a lot like Obama Care, something thrown together and never reviewed, with a bunch of add-ins to get votes and just put out there to sound like they were trying to meet their promise. However, the promise was to FIX it, not just replace it with something just as crappy.

I am sorely disappointed in this GOP congress and Trump at this point.
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I am greatly disappointed in both as well. As you pointed out, the GOP had years to develop a plan that would have effectively replaced Obamacare. They not only failed, but they have lied to to the voters. If the GOP wants to maintain the majority in both houses, they must write and pass an effective replacement before the mid-term elections.
 
why is it that people will say they only donate to the person, not the party yet they will vote for the party regardless of the person?
 
I just tossed my GOP "survey" (cough cough...donation request) in the trash. I thought about writing another letter but I'm not going to waste my time or the ink. I hate I'm wasting a good trash bag on it.
 
The Dems will not settle for anything less than a single-payer program that will jack up taxes for everybody.
 
Mrs. Foxmeister said:
how will that jack up the taxes any more than Trump?
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Though I'm opposed to a big-government program from either party; the Democrats almost always demonstrate a complete and total lack of understanding of how a market driven economy works, and they are the champions at the "tax the rich and give it away to the poor" game. In other words...Socialists.

The GOP won't do this right either; they will continue to also push a big-government program. But as a general rule; they have a better understanding of how to work within a market economy and they suck a little less (just a little) as the tax and spend game.

I actually think Trump could probably do what he said and set up a negotiated healthcare program that would have significant cost savings for now. But the problem comes when he's gone, and someone else (especially the Democrats) are in power. They take the program that was created under him and rape and pillage it just like politicians do every program.

And THAT, is why we're in this mess now.
 
IMO, this whole battle can be won. Mitch "I wish I had a chin" McConnell needs to grow a set of testicles and put Schumer on the sidelines. What part of "we won" escapes the RINOs? Stop negotiating. Go nuclear. Take their spoons away from them, let them sit in their highchairs and bawl.
 
Glassdogs said:
IMO, this whole battle can be won. Mitch "I wish I had a chin" McConnell needs to grow a set of testicles and put Schumer on the sidelines. What part of "we won" escapes the RINOs? Stop negotiating. Go nuclear. Take their spoons away from them, let them sit in their highchairs and bawl.
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Frack the Democrats. We remember them saying that "elections have consequences" Let's show them some. I'm sick and tired of being called "obstructionist" when they are in charge and "bully" when we are. I don't like Trump, but he chose a good guy for the Court. lets get him in there. Republicans promised REPEAL AND REPLACE. Do it . They p[promised defunding PP. Do it. They promised tax reform. Do it. School choice. Do it. Do it all and do it before November 2018. make our programs the Obamacare that they can't undo.


But they won't, they are too afraid of losing to end any freebie. They forget that the Democrats get the freebies and they don't vote Republican anyhow. Appeal to vast middle that just wants a responsible government, reasonable taxes, lower debt, and cheaper healthcare. Actually drain the swamp even if it means we have to kill some red alligators.
 
Boss 302 said:
Every country that has a single-payer program, pays for it with a value-added tax, which is a national sales tax.
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Those taxes run between 25% and 40% and are paid by everyone including the poor. A new Camry in Denmark runs as much as a Jaguar does here, and when allowing for purchasing power parity, the "Nordic Model" countries have spendable incomes equal to or below the poorest states in America. There is no such thing a "free" anything no matter who hands you the check, and single payer ALWAYS leads to wait times for simple tests and procedures that Americans would find untenable.
 
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