Trump and NATO

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Donald Trump Sets Conditions for Defending NATO Allies Against Attack
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html

Donald J. Trump on the eve of accepting the Republican nomination for president, said Wednesday that if he were elected, he would not pressure Turkey or other authoritarian allies about conducting purges of their political adversaries or cracking down on civil liberties. The United States, he said, has to “fix our own mess” before trying to alter the behavior of other nations.

“I don’t think we have a right to lecture,” Mr. Trump said in a wide-ranging interview in his suite in a downtown hotel here while keeping an eye on television broadcasts from the Republican National Convention. “Look at what is happening in our country,” he said. “How are we going to lecture when people are shooting policemen in cold blood?”
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So much for American Exceptionalism.


He even called into question whether, as president, he would automatically extend the security guarantees that give the 28 members of NATO the assurance that the full force of the United States military has their back.

For example, asked about Russia’s threatening activities that have unnerved the small Baltic States that are among the more recent entrants into NATO, Mr. Trump said that if Russia attacked them, he would decide whether to come to their aid only after reviewing whether those nations “have fulfilled their obligations to us.”

He added, “If they fulfill their obligations to us, the answer is yes.”
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Get ready for a crazy world out there.
 
Personally it was refreshing to hear. Why should we continue to be the world's policeman and why shouldn't we respect the sovereignty of other countries? Where is Trump wrong? We do have a hot mess going on right here in our country. I understand you dislike Trump, I'm sure you'd still much rather vote for a Cruz-like candidate who can't even honor a simple pledge to his party, supporters, and potential voters.
 
I think if Hillary had made those remarks many conservatives would be calling her out on it.
 
J-man said:
Personally it was refreshing to hear. Why should we continue to be the world's policeman and why shouldn't we respect the sovereignty of other countries? Where is Trump wrong? We do have a hot mess going on right here in our country. I understand you dislike Trump, I'm sure you'd still much rather vote for a Cruz-like candidate who can't even honor a simple pledge to his party, supporters, and potential voters.
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Love that statement. LOL (It is SAD, but a perfect description of all that is happening)
 
We do have lots of problems in this country but that doesn't mean we should or can ignore the rest of the world.
 
cptlo306 said:
We do have lots of problems in this country but that doesn't mean we should or can ignore the rest of the world.
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Nobody is inferring that here, only that we don't have to police each conflict and push our agenda onto a country that is shifting its political stance.
 
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Here's the one really bad thing about NATO - too many of the member countries are not paying what they're supposed to to keep NATO strong and ready. The U.S. has been picking up the tab for many of them for decades now. Sure some NATO countries sent military support to Iraq and Afghanistan, but with the exception of the Brits, it was nothing more than a token showing. The French element was very small in Afghanistan and there military members were arrogant as hell; trying to make the rest of us there believe they were superior to us and we could not be successful there without them. Needless to say, I can't stand the French military.

Spain sent troops, but they were in one location and supported an airfield. The Italians sent some special forces troops, but they rarely went outside the wire. The same goes for those from Romania and Poland. The Aussies sent more troops than the aforementioned countries with the exception of the Brits.
 
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