another benghazi stunner?

[mei lan]

This is beyond shocking if true. Wow. Fox, any insight?

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/37144547/Interesting-Rumor-Concerning-General-Carter-Ham-and-Stand-Down-Order.aspx

 

[mei lan]

Drew M at Ace doesn't put much stock in the rumor:

There are also some rumblings about the General Ham's replacement as Commander of Africa Command being announced this week. If you look at the history of combatant command tours they are usually about 2-2.5 years and this announcement is well within that window. Ham's replacement was simply named, he still must be confirmed by the Senate and then there's usually a few months until the actual change of command.

http://minx.cc/?post=334311

 

[naturegirl]

mei lan, I really don't know what to say............this just keeps getting worse and worse. ABC had a blip on their web page today, in the politics section. :girlsaysno

 

[Foxmeister]

General Ham took command of AFRICOM in March 2011. Usually these are three year assignments. It isn't normal to name a successor to a major command half-way through an assignment unless that commander has submitted his retirement packet or is being relieved for cause. I would think the Republicans would be up in arms if this rumor had the slightest possibility of being true. If it is true, Obama is a fool to relieve Ham as there would be absolutely anything Obama could do to keep Ham's mouth shut about it.

The Senate will have to confirm Rodriquez's appointment to command AFRICOM. Rodriquez is currently commander of US Forces Command (USFORSCOM), which used to be at Ft. McPherson before moving to Ft. Bragg because of the last BRAC closings.

Here's a story from Stars & Stripes announcing Rodriquez as being Obama's nominee to succeed Ham.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-to-nominate-army-gen-rodriguez-to-lead-africom-1.193564?localLinksEnabled=false

 

[mei lan]

mei lan, I really don't know what to say............this just keeps getting worse and worse. ABC had a blip on their web page today, in the politics section. :girlsaysno

Yes, ma'am.

 

[Far West]

General Ham took command of AFRICOM in March 2011. Usually these are three year assignments. It isn't normal to name a successor to a major command half-way through an assignment unless that commander has submitted his retirement packet or is being relieved for cause. I would think the Republicans would be up in arms if this rumor had the slightest possibility of being true. If it is true, Obama is a fool to relieve Ham as there would be absolutely anything Obama could do to keep Ham's mouth shut about it.

The Senate will have to confirm Rodriquez's appointment to command AFRICOM. Rodriquez is currently commander of US Forces Command (USFORSCOM), which used to be at Ft. McPherson before moving to Ft. Bragg because of the last BRAC closings.

Here's a story from Stars & Stripes announcing Rodriquez as being Obama's nominee to succeed Ham.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-to-nominate-army-gen-rodriguez-to-lead-africom-1.193564?localLinksEnabled=false

Senate should not confirm Rodriguez until it is known why Ham is being replaced. This smells of more cover up by Zero's administration.


Coincidental to General Ham’s firing? Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group....hmmmmmm?



Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group
by The Associated Press

October 27, 2012, 05:37 pm ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of "inappropriate leadership judgment" that arose during the strike group's deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=163780287

 

[Foxmeister]

General Ham took command of AFRICOM in March 2011. Usually these are three year assignments. It isn't normal to name a successor to a major command half-way through an assignment unless that commander has submitted his retirement packet or is being relieved for cause. I would think the Republicans would be up in arms if this rumor had the slightest possibility of being true. If it is true, Obama is a fool to relieve Ham as there would be absolutely anything Obama could do to keep Ham's mouth shut about it.

The Senate will have to confirm Rodriquez's appointment to command AFRICOM. Rodriquez is currently commander of US Forces Command (USFORSCOM), which used to be at Ft. McPherson before moving to Ft. Bragg because of the last BRAC closings.

Here's a story from Stars & Stripes announcing Rodriquez as being Obama's nominee to succeed Ham.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-to-nominate-army-gen-rodriguez-to-lead-africom-1.193564?localLinksEnabled=false

Senate should not confirm Rodriguez until it is known why Ham is being replaced. This smells of more cover up by Zero's administration.


Coincidental to General Ham’s firing? Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group....hmmmmmm?



Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group
by The Associated Press

October 27, 2012, 05:37 pm ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of "inappropriate leadership judgment" that arose during the strike group's deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=163780287

Do you really think Harry Reid and the rest of the Democrats in the senate majority are going to question this? They won't question any of this at all.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Gen. Ham wanted to take some sort of action to protect those at the consulate because Libya is in AFRICOM's area of responsibility (Egypt is in CENTCOM's AOR). It would have been irresponsible on Ham's part if he hadn't attempted to provide any aid at all. I smell a rat in all this and it seems to be coming from the Oval Office.

 

[Far West]

General Ham took command of AFRICOM in March 2011. Usually these are three year assignments. It isn't normal to name a successor to a major command half-way through an assignment unless that commander has submitted his retirement packet or is being relieved for cause. I would think the Republicans would be up in arms if this rumor had the slightest possibility of being true. If it is true, Obama is a fool to relieve Ham as there would be absolutely anything Obama could do to keep Ham's mouth shut about it.

The Senate will have to confirm Rodriquez's appointment to command AFRICOM. Rodriquez is currently commander of US Forces Command (USFORSCOM), which used to be at Ft. McPherson before moving to Ft. Bragg because of the last BRAC closings.

Here's a story from Stars & Stripes announcing Rodriquez as being Obama's nominee to succeed Ham.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-to-nominate-army-gen-rodriguez-to-lead-africom-1.193564?localLinksEnabled=false

Senate should not confirm Rodriguez until it is known why Ham is being replaced. This smells of more cover up by Zero's administration.


Coincidental to General Ham’s firing? Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group....hmmmmmm?



Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group
by The Associated Press

October 27, 2012, 05:37 pm ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of "inappropriate leadership judgment" that arose during the strike group's deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=163780287

Do you really think Harry Reid and the rest of the Democrats in the senate majority are going to question this? They won't question any of this at all.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Gen. Ham wanted to take some sort of action to protect those at the consulate because Libya is in AFRICOM's area of responsibility (Egypt is in CENTCOM's AOR). It would have been irresponsible on Ham's part if any didn't attempt to provide any aid at all. I smell a rat in all this and it seems to be coming from the Oval Office.

As this blows up, I wonder if more will want to distance themselves from 0bama, and might call for more information.

Maybe I’m too optimistic. :dunno

 

[unionmom]

 

[Foxmeister]

General Ham took command of AFRICOM in March 2011. Usually these are three year assignments. It isn't normal to name a successor to a major command half-way through an assignment unless that commander has submitted his retirement packet or is being relieved for cause. I would think the Republicans would be up in arms if this rumor had the slightest possibility of being true. If it is true, Obama is a fool to relieve Ham as there would be absolutely anything Obama could do to keep Ham's mouth shut about it.

The Senate will have to confirm Rodriquez's appointment to command AFRICOM. Rodriquez is currently commander of US Forces Command (USFORSCOM), which used to be at Ft. McPherson before moving to Ft. Bragg because of the last BRAC closings.

Here's a story from Stars & Stripes announcing Rodriquez as being Obama's nominee to succeed Ham.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-to-nominate-army-gen-rodriguez-to-lead-africom-1.193564?localLinksEnabled=false

Senate should not confirm Rodriguez until it is known why Ham is being replaced. This smells of more cover up by Zero's administration.


Coincidental to General Ham’s firing? Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group....hmmmmmm?



Navy Replaces Admiral Leading Mideast Strike Group
by The Associated Press

October 27, 2012, 05:37 pm ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of "inappropriate leadership judgment" that arose during the strike group's deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=163780287

Do you really think Harry Reid and the rest of the Democrats in the senate majority are going to question this? They won't question any of this at all.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Gen. Ham wanted to take some sort of action to protect those at the consulate because Libya is in AFRICOM's area of responsibility (Egypt is in CENTCOM's AOR). It would have been irresponsible on Ham's part if any didn't attempt to provide any aid at all. I smell a rat in all this and it seems to be coming from the Oval Office.

As this blows up, I wonder if more will want to distance themselves from 0bama, and might call for more information.

Maybe I’m too optimistic. :dunno

If Gen. Ham is being relieved because he attempted to provide aid to the consulate, he should speak up about it.

 

[Far West]

::ditto

 

[Winchester]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

 

[Foxmeister]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

Unfortunately, if there are any hearings regarding Ham, it won't be until after the election. What repercussions could there be if he spoke out now? No Democrat in Congress would dare take any action against him to harm his career or reputation because that would harm their political careers. The Republicans would hail him as a hero.

 

[Winchester]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

Unfortunately, if there are any hearings regarding Ham, it won't be until after the election. What repercussions could there be if he spoke out now? No Democrat in Congress would dare take any action against him to harm his career or reputation because that would harm their political careers. The Republicans would hail him as a hero.

No, not talking about a congressional hearing for Ham, but for Obama. Ham could be a witness against him and it would not be smart for him to make comments right now. Otherwise, I agree with you 100%!

 

[Foxmeister]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

Unfortunately, if there are any hearings regarding Ham, it won't be until after the election. What repercussions could there be if he spoke out now? No Democrat in Congress would dare take any action against him to harm his career or reputation because that would harm their political careers. The Republicans would hail him as a hero.

No, not talking about a congressional hearing for Ham, but for Obama. Ham could be a witness against him and it would not be smart for him to make comments right now. Otherwise, I agree with you 100%!

Such hearings wouldn't take place until after the election. What if Obama were re-elected?

 

[lotstodo]

Really Ham has no option if he wants to keep his retirement.

 

[Foxmeister]

Really Ham has no option if he wants to keep his retirement.

Not true.

 

[Winchester]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

Unfortunately, if there are any hearings regarding Ham, it won't be until after the election. What repercussions could there be if he spoke out now? No Democrat in Congress would dare take any action against him to harm his career or reputation because that would harm their political careers. The Republicans would hail him as a hero.

No, not talking about a congressional hearing for Ham, but for Obama. Ham could be a witness against him and it would not be smart for him to make comments right now. Otherwise, I agree with you 100%!

Such hearings wouldn't take place until after the election. What if Obama were re-elected?

If the GOP wins the senate, no problems. Totally out of his hands.

 

[Foxmeister]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

Unfortunately, if there are any hearings regarding Ham, it won't be until after the election. What repercussions could there be if he spoke out now? No Democrat in Congress would dare take any action against him to harm his career or reputation because that would harm their political careers. The Republicans would hail him as a hero.

No, not talking about a congressional hearing for Ham, but for Obama. Ham could be a witness against him and it would not be smart for him to make comments right now. Otherwise, I agree with you 100%!

Such hearings wouldn't take place until after the election. What if Obama were re-elected?

If the GOP wins the senate, no problems. Totally out of his hands.

I'm not confident the GOP will win the Senate.

 

[mei lan]

But Fox, you know a good military man never speaks out against the Prez......until the time is right. And I suspect that will be before a Congressional hearing when it will have the most impact.

Unfortunately, if there are any hearings regarding Ham, it won't be until after the election. What repercussions could there be if he spoke out now? No Democrat in Congress would dare take any action against him to harm his career or reputation because that would harm their political careers. The Republicans would hail him as a hero.

No, not talking about a congressional hearing for Ham, but for Obama. Ham could be a witness against him and it would not be smart for him to make comments right now. Otherwise, I agree with you 100%!

Such hearings wouldn't take place until after the election. What if Obama were re-elected?

If the GOP wins the senate, no problems. Totally out of his hands.

I'm not confident the GOP will win the Senate.

I'm not confident of much of anything. Mostly just scared witless. I cannot bear to think of how bad it could be. ullingcoversovermyhead: