The Gorilla Incident...

honeybunny

Pursuit Driver
People need to educate themselves on the facts of this situation before
making outrageous and nonsensical comments slamming the mother...

Eyewitnesses indicate that the mother was not negligent or inattentive.

And this is the kind of stuff that makes me hate social media...


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The zoo should have done a better job having a barrier that prevents people to include children from going over or under. You can take your eyes off a child for a second and something like this happens.
 
I recently left a political forum because 90% of people's posts and rebuttals were memes.
 
People need to educate themselves on the facts of this situation before
making outrageous and nonsensical comments slamming the mother...

Eyewitnesses indicate that the mother was not negligent or inattentive.

And this is the kind of stuff that makes me hate social media...


:violent:
:amen:

I can't even respond on some posts I have read. People are crazy and the meme's ...just ugh.
 
I think it needs to be investigated. One person was quoted as saying ""Out of the corner of my eye, I saw the little boy in the bushes past the little fence area. I tried to grab for him. I started yelling at him to come back."
 
When I first heard the story I was guilty of quickly laying blame on the adult in charge of watching the kid but once I saw the video and heard more of the story it appears that the zoo lacked in proper barrier protection. It's a sad story, I do hate that they killed the gorilla but if it was my kid in there being dragged around it would be exactly what I'd want them to do. Lost in the story is the boy, I've heard he is recovering...he's very lucky not to have been seriously injured or killed.
 
When I first heard the story I was guilty of quickly laying blame on the adult in charge of watching the kid but once I saw the video and heard more of the story it appears that the zoo lacked in proper barrier protection. It's a sad story, I do hate that they killed the gorilla but if it was my kid in there being dragged around it would be exactly what I'd want them to do. Lost in the story is the boy, I've heard he is recovering...he's very lucky not to have been seriously injured or killed.
I have heard various stories about how the kid actually got inside. One said that he crawled "through" a fence, and another said that he went "around" the fence. I'm not sure how that is accomplished by a three year old, but if the fence was defective then that has to be looked into. Perhaps it was broken. It is important to note here also that this particular enclosure has been in place since 1968 and there has never been an incident of this nature.

Multiple witnesses said that the mother was unaware that the child was in danger until people started screaming. They said that she was "fussing with" her other children at the time. Now I know that keeping track of young kids on an outing is a challenge, but perhaps she tried to do too much herself. All that we know is that the child was out of her control for more than a "few seconds". Like I said, I am not at all quick to forgive her for her lack of responsibility here, but by the same token, if the enclosure is defective, then that should be immediately addressed also. You are ultimately responsible for your children. I just thank goodness that the boy was not harmed by the animal and am saddened by the understandable decision to kill it.
 
I think it needs to be investigated. One person was quoted as saying ""Out of the corner of my eye, I saw the little boy in the bushes past the little fence area. I tried to grab for him. I started yelling at him to come back."


Children can be very quick and accidents do happen in seconds to even the best of parents...

From the multiple eyewitness statements, the mother simply turned around for moment
and the kid was over the fence and into the moat before anyone could react and grab him.

Mothers are not superhuman... and the way this woman is being vilified online is disgusting.
 
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I've read from several sources that the boy kept asking to go into the enclosure and the mom told him no. Hindsight is 20/20 and I don't wish to vilify the mom when all the facts aren't out, but she apparently had a warning that he wanted to go in there. Every one makes mistakes and I'm sure the mom is probably beating herself up but I don't see a problem with an investigation. Better to be safe than sorry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-led-zoo-officials-fatally-shoot-animal.html
 
The Cincinnati police have investigated the incident and determined that no charges will be brought against the mother or the zoo. I believe that this is most likely the correct decision, as they have interviewed all of the witnesses and checked the barriers.

I do have some lingering concerns. The design at the great ape exhibit in Cincinnati was a great leap forward in design, and has been used as the prototype for large animal enclosures worldwide, including here at Zoo Atlanta (Jon Coe used some of these basic immersion concepts, including barrier design, at Woodland Park and then here). The basic design, a 36-42 inch railing or fence facing the guests, followed by about four to six feet of dense shub barrier and a 2-3 foot tall stub wall facing the crowd, which is actually the top of about a 20 foot sheer wall on the animal side. Some modifications have included a low metal fence concealed within the shrubbery, but it doesn't appear that Cincinnati had this at that particular enclosure. The barrier is designed to first and foremost keep the animal inside the enclosure while offering an unobstructed view of nearly all of the habitable enclosure. Secondarily it is to present an obstacle to discourage the overly curious, both young and old, from trying to get a closer look. In broad general terms, the brush is so dense that it should be uncomfortable at best to approach beyond the railing, and the twenty foot drop on the back side should be daunting for even a toddler who is old enough to make it that far in the first place.

In almost 50 years of this design being in use, I cannot recall but two or three instances of a young child getting across, and a handful of (usually drunk) adults doing the same. However, this is a zoo, not a prison, and it must be assumed that the guest assumes some responsibility for their own safety and the safety of their children. There are signs all over the grounds warning parents to watch their kids closely, but as was brought up kids are kids. The question now becomes how "impenetrable" should a wild animal enclosure be from the guest side? What if anything can be done to make them safer without a gigantic investment in remodeling, and what would be the advantage if any? Can any reasonable modification keep a determined four year old from doing the seemingly unthinkable? I'm sure we will hear more about these questions after the lawyers arrive.
 
Two things, first the people with the zoo know this animal better then anyone else and if they stated that the child was in danger, I trust them more then anyone else.

Two, it has been brought to my attention that the video making the rounds has been edited in a way to make the animal appear less hostile when in fact a real unedited video shows a totally different story. I have not seen either video and do not have a link for the unedited video. Just remember that the lame stream media is there to sell a story, not provide the truth!
 
Two things, first the people with the zoo know this animal better then anyone else and if they stated that the child was in danger, I trust them more then anyone else.

Two, it has been brought to my attention that the video making the rounds has been edited in a way to make the animal appear less hostile when in fact a real unedited video shows a totally different story. I have not seen either video and do not have a link for the unedited video. Just remember that the lame stream media is there to sell a story, not provide the truth!
Yes. The unedited video is frightening. They made the right decision to shoot the animal.
 
In an about face, the Cincinnati Police have announced that the investigation into the actions of the parents is ongoing. No indication if there is new evidence.
 
What bothers me is that some parents are being threatened from various government agencies for letting their kids play in their backyard without supervision or for walking on the sidewalk to school. It will be interesting to see if anything comes of the investigation and if the parents are held responsible for neglecting to properly supervise their kid. In my opinion they should at least be held liable for civil damages to help cover some of the zoo's expenses and loss of revenue, not to mention the bad publicity. Let me be clear though, I'm glad the kid is recovering and I agree with the decision to terminate the gorilla under those conditions.
 
I became very disappointed, in a family member, after reading their comments about the gorilla dying. The term "idiot buttmunch" crossed my mind, but thankfully my dear sister jumped in with logic, and reason. The buttmunch still doesn't "get" it, but it's not for lack of having the logical answer drawn out on some elementary flash cards.
 
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